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post May 15 2012, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(lilac @ Mar 4 2012, 05:37 PM)
I've viewed quite a number of units however I'm still pondering on my purchase. This will be my first property (the only one which I can see being affordable in PJ area) and I'm very concerned about the safety of the area for ladies.

I see a lot of foreigners in the areas and whenever I ask around regarding this apartment I get "Doggey  place" or "A lot of Africans" and have yet to come across any positive reviews of this place till I came here.

I've been there multiple times and I must say the main attraction for me is to BE IN the apartment to enjoy the view. The walkway, lifts and the surroundings do not give me much security.

I absolutely love the view from this place, but my main concern is the residence.

1) Do you think this place would be safe for a lady to stay?
Security is my main concern here.
2) Do you think the status of this place will improve?
As for the maintainance (The lift sometimes does get terrifying), the people messing up all the clean walls,&  etc. Will these all improve?
3) Will the price go up?
Hopefully with the price bumping up, better residence would gradually move in.

I'm truly hoping he price of this place to go up as high end development seems to be popping on both sides of Flora Damansara. I heard that developers are making banglows at the pond beside Block H as well.

I'm hoping if it's true, and as prices gradually go up, the place would buck up as well. At the current moment I'm still pondering deeply my first purchase yet I'm very tempted to just make a move.
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I think until the africans & foreigner being get rid of the problem still exists, this is from my bottom heart. They are the reason why the place become low class. The security is not good, as much improvements has been made unfortunately. I dont think if there's africans, then it is safe, especially for woman. This is a very very understood matter. As much as I dont want to discriminate, yes africans are one of the problems makers.

the view might be nice(dont think it is as nice though), but security is more important. and if the surroundings is dirty, dont hope that this property will go up, honestly. If now, someone sells at rm160K, and if there is someone buys it, that person must be an idiot.


Added on May 15, 2012, 1:48 am
QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ Mar 26 2012, 02:51 PM)
This the feedback's from my client who wanted to buy the units :

1. Dirty                                                            - dirty & messy, very much like a place where indons & bangladesh ppl live, and Im dead serious.
2. Less- Chinese (Most my buyers are chinese)  - unfortunately true, less chinese stay here.
3. Too crowded                                                - true
4. As like old prison (from outside the corridor as is dark, light not working on most of the corridor.  - security is a big issue here. this point is not easily
                                                                                                                                                  seen until the person stays here.

The good stuffs they said :

1. Cheap                                - they must be mad.
2. Convenience location          - is there any public transport ?
3. Nice view, windy                  - agree
4. Inside unit quite spacious    - i dont think so. it "looks" spacious because it's arrangement is "long"

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post May 15 2012, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(lynforum @ May 15 2012, 01:50 AM)
in iprop really got ad 170-220k -)
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anyone can put rm300K also. of course you can put. But whether a person know how to see the worthiness of this property, then they will know even putting rm160K itself is indeed already overpriced. im saying something very honest. as for the nearby development, until it comes up as plan, then only see the price, otherwise, "news" will stay as "news".......
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post May 16 2012, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 16 2012, 10:35 PM)
I can get 4 bankers to give me valuation of RM160K. And 4 of those banks doesn't below to my father. (Sorry if i don't get your sarcasm)

So you're saying if there no "niggers" than is a livable place ?

Let me tell you the few points i'm confidence in this property :

1. The only High-rise apartment in Damansara cost less than RM200K
2. Cheap rental (for medium cost family)(Always have tenant)
3. Convenience (Strategic location)
4. The beautiful view and windy
5. Surrounding a lot new development. (Empire City, Empire Damansara, ForestHill Damansara)
6. Future MRT at Curve

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Most important now this property giving me positive cash flow. I don't lose anything here. Even if i let go now at the price of as you say RM130K, i still make some.
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hahaah, dont need to be your fathers la, as long as they want business already can.

wah your question : So you're saying if there no "niggers" than is a livable place ?

that answer is obvious isnt it ? you seem like prioritize money more than security....not right.

1. correct - should be, else no one wants to buy also
2. rental is just OK, not really cheap.
3. not really, not connected to public transport is not really convenient
4. view is depends on which unit ya, dont get caught that every unit is beautiful view.
5. ya got development, but that is a few years later, NOT NOW. so if not now, dont make the price of future to become NOW
6. when the MRT finishes, then only hike. the finishing of MRT is like a few more years...so no point of saying now, right ?

everyone here knows you will make money, coz some of people who attack you here, already telephone developer ask what is the launch price smile.gif
that is why they say you are greedy....hehehe, dont angry, some of the words the people here say is true.


Added on May 16, 2012, 11:38 pm
QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ May 16 2012, 10:54 PM)
The only person look like idiot is you and indeed you are truly an idiot  icon_rolleyes.gif
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wah, if you reply back to him, then you mah look even more idiot than his more idiot ? hahahahhaha

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post May 16 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 16 2012, 11:16 PM)
Nobody want believe me value can get Rm160K.  cry.gif
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dont think those iproperty or property website can be trusted...the people simply hentam prices.


Added on May 16, 2012, 11:45 pm
QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 16 2012, 11:39 PM)
what propwall? got iproperty la. best portal for subsale. undeniable. Pls check

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&au=&sby=&ns=1

even corner units with 1080sf only selling for 175 to 190k.  Tat also give 5% less for nego part.  bro...dun bullshit ppl here la wtf?

Niggers disturb ppl even like ur grandma ok? no joke.  Without them, its obvious that flora would be only slightly better.

1. The only High-rise apartment in Damansara cost less than RM200K - so what? its cheap but is it even an reasonable place to live with basic comfort?  Have you ever wondered why its still 130k today even its in DAMANSARA????? think!!!!!
2. Cheap rental (for medium cost family)(Always have tenant) - agree.  if u really have no choice but wanna live in damansara, this is the only option left.
3. Convenience (Strategic location). agree. but the entire road leading in and out is always full of f'ing potholes.  alonso did his slalom practice here by just learning how to avoid the potholes.
4. The beautiful view and windy - depends where u facing. last time still ok.  now entire place like concrete jungle, so what view u talking about bro?
5. Surrounding a lot new development. (Empire City, Empire Damansara, ForestHill Damansara) - all these projects are far superior than flora.  And they are independent.  Wont affect flora much at all.
6. Future MRT at Curve - agree.  but how to reach curve for those without vehicles?  Walk? 1hr shud be enuf i think..

Dun argue for the sake of it la cowboy.  u mentioned the pool gonna be fixed?  Dried for last 2 yrs la.  Even fixed, 1 f'king little pool to serve entire blocks e, f n h??? thats like 24units x 24 floors x 3 blocks sharing 1 baby pool.  WALAN-EH!!

How much maintenance u paying mthly? 77 right?  dun u feel cheated?  they used ur 77 for what?  security? maintenance? ensure road condition ok? F U C *!!!!
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i couldnt agree more with your point NO 1. thumbup.gif

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post May 17 2012, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(noswear @ May 17 2012, 11:10 AM)
One thing i need to clarify is tat:

i heard market rent is higher then the rent i m charging......reason of i din bother to raise it if it true that market rent is higher than mine simply bcoz the tenant i m having now had been with with me for the past 2 years and i had no problem in collecting the rental plus its sufficient to cover my instalment after netting of everything..
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it's true what miss shaq says. she is not referring to you that you dont charge more than rm700. but having said that, maybe if you charge more, you could easily lose your tenant. we human always think of the lost we could have made instead of thinking what we have gain. when we think what we could have gain, we didnt put into consideration the disadvantages, we just focus on the advantages. my 5 cents.


Added on May 17, 2012, 2:12 pm
QUOTE(pekanmy @ May 17 2012, 12:18 PM)
Are you saying the potential tenant just pay whatever price you put and without looking at the place? I hope it is that easy drool.gif
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i think you misinterpret her meaning....quite a deep sentence. it's a frank advise rather than a scarcastic critism.

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post May 18 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(cranx @ May 18 2012, 02:47 AM)
property market is so inflated now that desperate people shifted their attention to shit hole like Flora Damansara.
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since you also admitted that even flora damansara is a shit hole/property with low value, then is it even wrong to buy there ? if you want to buy high end, why not go to high end's thread ?
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post May 18 2012, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(simply red @ May 18 2012, 12:51 PM)
Y ppl starts looking at lower end property is bcos the mid and high end prop hv moved significantly leaving the lower end lagging behind.

- it's good that you know lah...coz many people are still blinded.

For Flora to reach RM180k is not impossible for now! What can u get for RM200k in PJ? Make a search...

- how can you compare flora with other apartment in PJ ? you are not comparing apple to apple to begin with. The only similarity is PJ, that's all. and
  you even dare to say can reach rm180K, have u stayed there ? even a ex-resident there admit on the condition, have profitability blinded you ?
  you are talking like an animal trying to make love with it's partner. Dont care if the other partner is sick or whatever, just do it. Yes, it is called
  FORCE. Even though not directly "force" but essentialy is asking people to ACCEPT the price for whatever the condition is because PROPERTY
  PRICE NEEDS TO BE RAISED. and simply just take a comparsion with all the PJ Apartment just to justify the NEED TO RAISE THE PRICE.
  are you or the agents have brains ?

The lower income group make up of the biggest quadrant. Where these ppl gonna stay? What can they buy? There r no new project below Rm300k now. The supply for lower end prop r getting lesser but the demand r ever growing.

- this is none of your business to be frank. The problem does however comes from people like you or those agents or those investors who have
  manipulated the prices. so, dnt bother to even ask where those people want to stay.

Just a share of tots! - yes, the above is also my thinking as well. Im just expressing it out.
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post May 18 2012, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(simply red @ May 18 2012, 02:37 PM)
Investor r opportunist. We put our money on where there r money to make. Don't get emotional my friend. If u don't think this is the investment for u then stand aside keep yr money in the bank and try fighting the inflation.

This is market forces nobody can help it unless policy change. This is the market sentiment whether u like it or not. Wake up and move on my friend. Face the  reality.
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errr, it's not whether i like it or not...you observe many are buying this property ? ( pls dont ask agent, until cow comes home they will say a lot of people buying...) from what I see, more are trying to sell off, rather than buying hehehe.

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QUOTE(22222222 @ May 18 2012, 03:35 PM)
Haha....if 20.0k.....i buy for you lol..... biggrin.gif.

Frankly speaking, if you have 160k ~ 200k budget, why not consider B.oug (Current i stay there), capital appreciation more faster than Flora. The oni different 1 in PJ another at KL.

Anyway, Flora damansara still is the top 1 in my property list, i monitoring Flora since 2005 until today still not dare to buy....i go few auction before, but look like not much ppl interest in this property....so capital appreciation for time being will be very low or zero.

I oni consider to buy here, when i saw a big improvement on security issue.
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the biggest problem is the people here see the location more selling factor as compare to other more important issues such as cleanliness, security and road condition which they fail to see. having said that, anyone with conscious mind will not want to stay there or invest there, because the price is not tally with the things that one is going to buy. any seller should have known people are buying something involved hundred thousands, not buy vegetable... laugh.gif

and i remember when i go in, the workmanship for this property is not as good as many think...even more worrying when they people there start to sell in a lot....something must be very strange. I dont buy it for the rental.....something isnt right there.
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QUOTE(david_lynn @ May 18 2012, 11:07 PM)
replying to your answer

1. yes it has to be cheap else really no one else would buy. Moreover, since this development is on the hill, do you notice the medium block is behind
    like a hill ? got slope ? one day if tanah runtuh, the whole block is gone...im serious.

2. rental is actually cater more to the people doing the construction....other than that I think normal people will buy other other development which is
    more high class a bit. They wont be attracted to medium class. the only famous one would be the low cost one...

3. yup, not connected to public transport will be a not good place. furthermoew the future MRT is far from this place....so, connectivity is not good,
    dont think it's good. at least wont impress people, because you can easily get such apt in another area.

4. obviously views really depends on the location of the block and where it is facing, only 10% gets good view, the rest is just faking up their
    happiness about how well their view is.

5. development will affect the pricing of this property AFTER IT HAS BEEN BUILT FINISHED. until then , it's just talking rubbish when you uses this
    "development" topic to make people felt there is still hope for Flora Damansara.

6. the mrt is irrelevant anyway...it's so far away ! You need to drive there to use it.... doh.gif
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actually many agents still dun think what u say is true...anyway, just avoid this development if the price is too much...
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QUOTE(acbc @ May 20 2012, 02:26 PM)
I sold my FD unit 2 months back for a mere RM 125k below market value. Couldn't stand it anymore. Montly rentals can't even cover the monthly installment let alone maintenance fees.

And hard to get quality tenants. Mine ran away leaving 4 months of unpaid rent and lots of rubbish and junk in the unit. Doors broken, tiles cracked, toilets leaked and above all... found 40 roaches inside! Yucks! Had to spend RM 5k to repair everything before selling it.

To make it simple... worse than a DBKL flat!
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which is why i walk away icon_idea.gif you are lucky to manage to sell at rm125K, but dont think many would want it....rm125K is too over value for such a property. so alvin and others, you see where Im seeing it ? sometimes, we need to understand why that person say bd things about this property, not defending something that is not worth to defend.

i really pity you...what atenant to get ! sorry to ask this, which race is this tenant ? how dare that tenant run away,leaving rubbish....post the IC up here then only he know.

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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 20 2012, 02:30 PM)
i sold mine for 132k hehehe...

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that is too exensive !!! blink.gif
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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 20 2012, 02:37 PM)
i din bluff and serious wan.

furniture i left back was - 2 air con, bed frame and and matress, 1 water heater, tv cab, sofa set at living, dining table.

as long v dun sell below developer selling price which was 118k, considered not too bad
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118K for 850 square feet ? hhhmmm, felt even that was expensive for this kind of material & environment.

oh ya forget to ask, then since the strata title not yet out(which i doubt will be out also..) how you guys do the name transfer for the ownership of the unit then ?

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hhhmm, im thinking if there are already a few people like this, i think there are certainly more people, especially IT illiterate ones. this really is not good. and how could those agents/house owners even think of hiking the price ? sigh....maybe only they themselves felt the pain when all these people come out and tell the truth... let me comment your reply below biggrin.gif

QUOTE(MCooper @ May 20 2012, 04:22 PM)
notworthy.gif and  thumbup.gif for the above photos shared.

Let me share some of my personal experience here too. I used to stay in FD before i managed to move out. In that period, all sort of things happened:-

1. Safety - Few houses in my level actually broke in by thieves. According to my neighbours, it happened in the late morning. All their luxury items gone. They reported the incidents to the police, but police cant help. They have informed the management office, but sadly, no response has been taken. I mean come on, we as residents paying maintenance fee of RM77 per month, but what are those guards are doing??!! So far what i have noticed is the guards are merely staring at ur vehicle at guard house there each time u drive in and out!  rclxub.gif

- oh goodness, this is a big NO NO. I need to tell all my friends about this before they buy. the thieves broke in using front door or like monkeys from the window ? nolah, if the management office has been shitty all this while, they will be shitty in many years to come. trust me. police ? is not that you dont know right ? if that's the case rm77 is very expensive....does the resident use any security guard to touch the gate to get in ? or is it
controlled by the security guard ? sounds to me, the residents bodoh2 pay the rm77 to "give makan" to the security guard company & management.


2. Safety - There are few times when i was alone at home, some visible and invisible ghosts came to knock at our door. For the very first time, i thought was a visitor. So i was trying to ask who was him / her outside there. But when no one response, i opened the door and i saw a man with black color shirt and pants but i cant even see his face! the next moment i slammed the door and locked it. Unfortunately he still kept knocking and knocking at the door till i shouted i want to call the police only the knocking sound stopped. Not just one time i experienced that, few times after that in the mid of night!!  vmad.gif So ladies, please pay full attention to this.

- yes, when you see those black people, you must pretend you dont see them....their "friendliness" is a dangerous type. so woman, you need to
AVOID them as far as possible no matter how "friendly" they are. dangerous...this medium cost property i think now is same status as low cost
already, unquestionable. Those black people i think there must be a way for people to get rid of them. this is really really red alert.


3. Too friendly neigbourhood - In my block, there are alot of "black black neighbours". There are many times when i was alone taking the lift, i was fortunate enough to bump into those black black neighbours. I was praying hard they would let me have some peace, but unfortunately, every time when bump into them, they sure "say Hi" to me and i was seriously freaking out. I guess all of u have the idea what was actually happening.

- i never bothered to look at them. Once I detect black people(usually they either have very very smelly iron smell or they have a HORRIBLE taste of putting fragrance at their body, so strong that you cant help but notice it is their type.) I will stand as far as possible away from them, irregardless
they are innocent or rough. What an eyesore to me is some chinese girls can even take them as bf or walk with them...OMG, how desperate these
girls are ?


4. House Condition - Talk about the house, like what u guys can see from the pictures posted by our dearest friend, the unit i was staying encountered the same problem too. Pipe leaking until the extent the water dripped down on the floor. Half of the ceiling full of water stains. Our tiles cracked, wall cracked. Else than that, so far others are still under control.

- house condition dont need to say loh, since this company already like sudah muflis, then their work also will reflect their workmanship. I pity those who live here. I think you all deserve better houses/property(this words is not applicable to investors)


5. Lifts - 5 units of lifts (if i remember correctly), only 2 out of 5 are functioning. Sometimes, might have surprise in the morning as well whereby none are functioning! Guess what, i have no choice but to run down the staircase in the early morning!!

- my goodness ! imagine if the person live in level 16, then ??????? and those agents can still have the desire to ask for rm130K for this kind of
property! and rm180K for 1080 sqf one....are they crazy or what ?


6. Management office - I paid my maintenance fees quite prompt. Unfortunately, there was once i forgot to pay my maintenance fees for 2 months and they clamped the water. I went to maintenance office, paid for the maintenance fees and asked to waive the clamping penalty. Guess what, i was attended by this management officer named Lawrence, he was so rude and shouted at me. I was so pissed off so i raised by voice too due to poor and rude customer service attitude of him. He not only never apologize, but instead threaten me if anything happen to my unit, he cant guarantee that management will help or in another word, take care of my own unit at my own risk despite i paid for monthly maintenance fee!!

- is the management done by chinese ? or combination of races ? my goodness, i think residents should have a major voice to FIRE whoever that is terrible.

The above are just part of my experience staying in flora damansara. If i were to continue, take whole night also not enough time for me to list out one by one. To all potential buyer there, think twice especially if you are a lady. What i can conclude, shit place to stay, Fxxking bloodly attitude management officers! Nightmare in my life. Sigh... sad.gif 

i guess i have to thank you for making me feel good about my decision! That agent asking for rm140K, somemore say many people already bought (Macamlah really got a lot people buy)I already suspicious when they out such high price....

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Added on May 20, 2012, 7:32 pm
QUOTE(lilac @ May 20 2012, 07:05 PM)
Wow..now this is really creepy! Care to share which Block and which Floor you're staying? Also when was your stay?

I noticed that a lot of residence places a Christian Cross, word "Assalamulaikum" or those Chinese "Fu" stuck on their doors. Cloud this be for preventive reasons?

At the same time, I can't help to notice how accounts are being created just to post in this page.  whistling.gif
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hehehe, you sure are right about the "how many accounts are being created to post in this forum". But, I think more importantly, we need to realize that such posts is good as it is informational, and more importantly it's done to bring awareness to people about what things cant be seen for anyone who wish to buy there but unable to "see" certain things...

so, please keep them coming....people have the right to know about the truth la. another thing is i think the low cost beside it really also influence the medium cost to be affected. not to mention the hopeless service...

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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 21 2012, 08:36 PM)
tel it to the arsehole who mentioned solaris here

wtf?
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then you should quote the seremban guy la, dont quote shaq pulak...people might mistaken what you try to mean.
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QUOTE(shaquenator @ May 21 2012, 09:21 PM)
to be honest, i will pay lower, definitely much lower(rm110K+5k for renovation & rm150k + 8K for renovation)...you see, this property has no problem in terms of location. But, the location factor is being overshadowed by 2 very important factor that is the management and low cost unit. who want to buy an apartment that even after paying maintenance, still have to suffer water supply cut, car theft, unable to resolve water leaking issues, lift not functioning well, foreigners easily go from low cost to middle cost units(and obviously steal things)....it means, actually what really happen to the monthly maintenance money ?

and the low cost unit, since it is cheap and affordable, the investors there dont care and they simply rent to anyone, especially africans because africans can pay....of course those who are willing to rent to them wont know where their "money" comes from, whether it is halal or not lah. banglas or indons or vietnamese. You see, such people have a different mentality, they are from poor countries, so they are used to living roughly...so, at the end, this is also connected to the lack if security. If this property hired from a security company, im very sure the security guard will do something. imagine 77 * 1K unit, how much already 1 month ? rm77K 1 month, that's A LOT and A LOT CAN BE DONE, but look at the condition ? it doesnt need a genius to point out, people are not doing their job because someone else swallow the money that is supposed to be paid.

doing audit on the account should "expose" something. But usually, the most easiest way for management is to say the account book is missing...  wink.gif and you know, "something greedy" has happened a lot of times, because the residents LET IT HAPPEN.


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Added on May 21, 2012, 9:44 pmi think there's another thing i might said it before but didnt emphasized it...since this flora damansara is behind bukit, there's also tendency to happen tanah runtuh ya....you guys need to be aware of this...
another very important point...
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i think the price need to be excluded from lelong prices ya...lelong prices are being "managed" by banks...so it isnt real lelong at all in Malaysia smile.gif
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[quote=kbandito,May 22 2012, 06:50 PM]I wonder why no one expand their radar a little bit further to Bandar Sri Damansara after Penchala toll.
You can get plentiful apartments for less than RM250,000.
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any names ? are these apartment good for rental ? or at least in good condition ? are there any public transport ?


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Added on May 22, 2012, 10:15 pm[quote=ahbaoahbao,May 22 2012, 11:10 AM]
Dear all,

I have been staying there for two years -- still renting a unit there. It is Block H -- the so called newest block.

The following are something that I would like to share out for potential investors or buyers for own stay purpose.
1) I did compare MKLAND's projects including Metropolitan, Perdana Exclusive, Flora Damansara etc. Of course, Flora Damansara is the worst -- maybe due to its "medium cost" range.

you got it right. in fact much worst...

2) Management proposed to install smart access system (for medium cost) and improve the parking system (mostly for the low cost blocks). If it were to complete these two projects, then I think Flora has no doubt to be appreciated a lot. WHat I think/feel is does everyone staying there pay maintenance fee? First, Management must collect the $$ and quickly install the system. The Flora becomes more secured. And in future, it is easier for management to collect maintainence fee -- no paying no access.

It is not a blank talk as management has proposed these two projects quite a long time. I am not the staff -- I don;t know what happened afterwards. But i guess it could be due to the high cost incurred or protest from residents. So until now, no update yet.

the point is since it is long time and still havent implement yet, what makes you think it will implement in the near future ? it's a stuck-up situation.

3) Block H has 5 lifts -- but 1 lift is broken. Anyway, 4 lifts are gam gam to support the massive use.

this is very dangerous, dont you think ? i mean who knows one day one of the lift got jammed ?

4) Security wise -- Guard has done their patrol a few times per day, including the covered parking. But never saw them appearing at the resident corridors (i think this one quite common in some other condo/apartment, right?). But IT IS NOT ENOUGH, frankly. The best way is to install the smart access card system, not only from the parking, but from lobby too. (Maybe I am too ambitious, but at least management has proposed to install the system)

yes, it is not enough especially if the medium is beside low cost, which is full of foreigners.

At this moment, especially during the night time, if my wife wants to go out, i will normally accompany her to go down the car park. Daytime, I do not. Personal opinion, still do not advise girls/ladies to go out alone at night. Who knows what happened next..
5) Hmm... still depends on our affordability.. If our budget is only less than 200k, then we can never go to all those high-end condo or landed pro. And then if u want to stay at damansara area, then looks like flora is the only choice. If I am afford to buy a ferrari, why I go to buy a kancil.

somehow, woman not suitable live here, unless big fat aunties...

6) Water Disruption happened quite frequently recently. But it was repaired very fast too.

still it happens, right ? if it is efficient, it wont happen in the first place.

Speak too long. In short, to investors:

i) Definitely flora will appreciate due to its nice location and the development surrounding it (more ppl staying/working here -- but not everyone afford to by high-end condo). No many choices for a budget less than 200k, right? So it is either good buy or good bye. Put $$ in REIT would also be quite nice. Try to take a look on Pavillion REIT. From 90 cents becomes RM1.20, in a short time... LOL.. I feel regret as I did not buy it...

at the moment, it is goodbye.

ii) If the parking system and smart access card system are successfully built, then appreciation would be much higher. But at that time, i think it is already quite expensive.

if it is built, then only talk lah, else dream on...

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QUOTE(ahbaoahbao @ May 23 2012, 10:40 AM)
Hmm.. I think two reasons: Toll and price. No matter how, flora costs around 120k -- ???.


Added on May 23, 2012, 10:59 am

We need to compare the price and it depends on our affordability too. Metropolitan costs 600k++ (new phase -- block D). Definitely can imagine it would have better environment, facility and structure. The Rafflesia costs more than million and looks like the residents never complain their security, facility etc...

of course ler, else something is wrong with the people already.

I stayed in low-cost house in my kampung when i was a child. If compared to the bungalow next to the low-cost units, of course all the low-cost units are "slum". We always said "one low-cost unit is only equivalent to one toilet in the bungalow..."  doh.gif 

As to the flora, I would say same concepts. So my two cents: no point to compare flora with those high end properties.

But, we SHOULD COMPARE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ALMOST THE SAME VALUE.

agree

For instance, if there is an apartment in sri damansara that has same value as flora but better environment and condition, then we should really give up flora, but to invest in that apartment (with the affordable price) -- which I am really interested too...  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif

do you have any idea which apartment is comparable to flora damansara ?

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Added on May 24, 2012, 12:08 ambetween, for those of you who always refer to iproperty or propwall or any property website, beware of agents tactics, all of them will simply post a "very expensive" or "much lower" pricing for this property, this actually is to attract your attention(and confuse you as well because they will put the highest price let's say rm220K and the lower price is higher than the current price let's say rm150K so that you can call the rm150K thinking you already the best deal, BUT YOU ARE BEING CHEATED), BUT when you telephone them, they will say it's sold out. AND they will introduce another unit to you, with much more higher prices. so, please be aware when you are using the "online" website, please see the pricing with a pinch of salt.

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Any review or comment on Aman Satu/Dua? Sounds interesting. rclxms.gif
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Aman dua is medium cost apartment (same as FD) + Freehold (FD is leasehold)), I know this place because my friend stay over there.

The building was well kept and major of residents is Chinese. (What i heard for her).

In between of FD and Aman Dua, i will go for Aman Dua. Unless, FD change their image and make me feel more comfortable then i will consider grab one of two units, otherwise no way lah.

Below is a review for Aman Dua.

http://www.propwall.my/kepong/aman_dua
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true, no way man. those who keep promoting FD seems so desperate...sigh.

I think these days the owners there also desperate want to prove to people that got people "rent" their unit lah, or got ppl sold out at that price lah...aiyah, sometimes when we say out that property is not so good, those who is owner there, as the malay says, siapa yang makan cili dia lah yang terasa pedas.

as for me(and the others), im very confident of what we say...we dont say it because of to bring the price down, but it is really the truth. and this confirms my statement, when last week, one of my friends says want to buy there. I told him all the things I said in this forum. He dont believe, PJ address wat.

Last Friday, he sms me, for the first time, he thought what I said is correct. rclxms.gif sigh, owners or agents sure will say good things loh, obviously what, the owner money is already invested there, agent the more high price the more comission. think people, think !


Added on May 26, 2012, 1:03 pm[quote=1282009,May 26 2012, 10:13 AM]
I agree with some of u. The apt in BSD will be a better deal. The price of that apt might surge slowly also after the nearby D.Avenue/Foresta is completed in 3 years time or so.
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sorry, what is BSD ?


Added on May 26, 2012, 1:13 pm[quote=Alvinyeo,May 25 2012, 04:48 PM]
Yes, i got good tenancy income too.

Apparently most my units being rented out is by executive position.

They told me they like FD because of the location and rental is cheap. laugh.gif

Hope can meet you in FD AGM sometime.


Added on May 25, 2012, 4:49 pm

I also heard got no such news at there.

All i see a lot of black people but they just hang around at the lobby chit-chatting.

I also saw a lot luxury car park at there. hmm.gif That is other story of course. laugh.gif


Added on May 25, 2012, 4:51 pm

If got budget and prefer for own stay than One Damansara really not bad.

From what i think la. hmm.gif


Added on May 25, 2012, 4:53 pm
Aman dua is medium cost apartment (same as FD) + Freehold (FD is leasehold)), I know this place because my friend stay over there.

The building was well kept and major of residents is Chinese. (What i heard for her).

In between of FD and Aman Dua, i will go for Aman Dua. Unless, FD change their image and make me feel more comfortable then i will consider grab one of two units, otherwise no way lah.

Below is a review for Aman Dua.

http://www.propwall.my/kepong/aman_dua
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I checked the link like really not bad.

Plus got swimming pool some more. Wonder whats the maintenance fees.

Anyone here stay at Aman Dua ?
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actually true also you never heard before those news, but let's say imagine someone is being rape, do you want all your neighbours know ? even one of the forumers said, the police who come to investigate cant do much. if got theft, do you tell the whole neighbourhood your things got stolen ? car got stolen if you tell the management, would you benefit anything ?

let's put it this way, at the end of the day, those who keep saying this property is good obviously have something of their interest there. for those who critised, obviously they arent lying, especially the guy who posted the pictures in this forum for you to "see". whether you got "executive" who rented your unit or not, doesnt matter. what matters is how long will they keep renting there wink.gif FD is afterall a gamble...those who already stuck there, they must do everything to protect their interests. they didnt thought the management will be such a nuisance...

talk is cheap, so when people really see the tangible things...they will finally come to their sense what those who always critised are talking about.

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QUOTE(1282009 @ May 26 2012, 01:17 PM)
BSD=Bandar Sri Damansara
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i see.


Added on May 26, 2012, 1:52 pm
QUOTE(1282009 @ May 26 2012, 10:13 AM)
I agree with some of u. The apt in BSD will be a better deal. The price of that apt might surge slowly also after the nearby D.Avenue/Foresta is completed in 3 years time or so.
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sorry which apt in bsd are you referring to ?

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