Hey, what do you guys think of a Proton Saga LMST 2006 that is going for RM5k OTR. Probably need to fork out another 1k to make the car look nice. Wondering if I'm making the correct decision in buying this car.
Thanks in advance!

Thanks for the recommendations , went to test drive the Mazda CX-5 yesterday. Very easy and nice to drive, couldn't tell if the backseat is bumpy or not.. Will ask my friend to tag along and sit in the back seat the next test drive.

The MB G55 looks amazing, but I'm actually only interested in the CX-5 in the SUV category (maybe the CRV, but have to do some research). Will still look into the reliability and maintenance for the g55 though. Other than that, I'd rather get a sedan or hatchback.. 2-3 years old car is fine by me..

My main priority now is cost, reliability and maintenence. City drive, mostly from home to work and yumcha. The occasional drive to penang or melaka.. Something not too small, comfortable for 4 to 5 people.

Cheers

This post has been edited by markypcs: Oct 10 2013, 01:20 PM

The Mitsubishi Mirage would be great since it is within your budget and is fuel efficient, however, might be too small and not enough of an upgrade to you. Though if the sedan version called the Attrage comes within your budget it would be great, though I've a feeling the Attrage won't be as cheap as the Nissan Almera since it is imported.

2012 Honda City - not many are this cheap but there are many pre-facelift owners discarding their cars because the facelifted Jazz and City have much better price for the same price (both come with VSA for starters), another is because the facelifted cars all have the bugs all ironed out as pre-facelift owners did receive a few letters for Honda for recall on certain components to go replace (probably frustration on their part to give up on the car when dealing with problematic 3S). In a nutshell a good car, fuel economy decent -- might be poor if you've got a heavy right foot.

This is the webpage for the most basic Viva here, notice it doesn't state it has airbags?

Now this is the webpage for the Viva Elite here, notice it clearly states it has airbags?

So only the most expensive Viva with the Viva Elite spec starting price of RM37k has airbags, others nada.

So Avanza, good I think it is the minimum you should look for.

2007 Renault Kangoo - interested in this car? actually it is very good but kinda ugly

Meaning the car price in total only RM5000?
Sounds abit too good to be true.

MB G55 nice and funky, yeah?

Quashi/Dualis/Rogue would do the job for you but of course it is not in the same size league as the CRV/CX5.

Murano would be in the comparable size, but the catch is....new facelift more expensive, you mind to get the pre-facelift version? All are recon's anyway, however the price is near CX5/CRV though you can still find something within your RM140k budget depending on spec and year made.

[quote=zenix,Oct 10 2013, 03:42 PM]

The Mitsubishi Mirage would be great since it is within your budget and is fuel efficient, however, might be too small and not enough of an upgrade to you. Though if the sedan version called the Attrage comes within your budget it would be great, though I've a feeling the Attrage won't be as cheap as the Nissan Almera since it is imported.

2012 Honda City - not many are this cheap but there are many pre-facelift owners discarding their cars because the facelifted Jazz and City have much better price for the same price (both come with VSA for starters), another is because the facelifted cars all have the bugs all ironed out as pre-facelift owners did receive a few letters for Honda for recall on certain components to go replace (probably frustration on their part to give up on the car when dealing with problematic 3S). In a nutshell a good car, fuel economy decent -- might be poor if you've got a heavy right foot.


How bout VIOS 12? Any idea when the Attrage is gonna release??

Besides suv category? Which would you recommend?

Cheers

I think very soon.

Vios 12 - unless you get clear stock car which is new, its an expensive choice.
Attrage - agents taking booking saying its going to be 59k but mitsu website say its 79k

I think 140k can get you a nice 2008 Merc C180K recon

This post has been edited by zenix: Oct 10 2013, 04:14 PM

alrite.. thank for the info. cheers

1. Brand : VW Polo Sport
2. Budget : Less than $90K
3. New/Used : Both is fine
4. Specs : Powerful with fuel efficient
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : Any
7. Type : Any
8. Remarks : Izit worth to get a used Polo sport year 2011 now? most of time travel in the city with heavy foot step.

What about Subaru XV? After sales service ok?

Sifu Zenix, is it an illusion or is the cabin size of c200 really smaller than the new Mazda 6???? Still trying to decide between getting an used 204 for 160k or new Mazda 6...

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : 0k-80k
3. New/Used : New
4. Specs : fuel efficient
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : Any
7. Type : Any
8. Remarks : Thanks SIFU

@zenix

Thanks for your time and advice, but I have to say that although those are good recommendations, they have rather high maintenance cost. My parents have recommended a trade-in 2009 2.0 Accord from a friend, but I don't think that would satisfy my lust for fun and speed, I was hoping if you could give more of your expert advice regarding this.

p.s. I've been thinking Peugeot 308, Mazda 3, Ford Focus, or something like that.
p.p.s Something fast to dominate, but not too eye catchy for some jealous barbarians,

This post has been edited by voluslolol: Oct 14 2013, 05:16 AM

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : < 35k
3. New/Used : Used
4. Specs : Good FC, 2 airbags at least
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : Any
7. Type : Sedan / Hatchback
8. Remarks : The service cost by the respective SC will be less than Rm300/service.
If it is an old car, I have to make sure the spare parts are cheap. For example, trying to avoid Honda City which is known for its gearbox problem and will cost about RM20k to change.

hye zenix...

any comment about Proton PREVE CFE/Executive VS New Vios 2013...

Kinda blurr...thanks!

This post has been edited by phyzoul: Oct 14 2013, 04:22 PM

Hi bro Zenix/other forummers

Just went for a test drive today. A Hatchback 1.5 Ford Fiesta.

I have tested Kia Rio and Honda Jazz too.
But I really like the feeling driving Fiesta. So I have decided on purchasing one. (but haven't signed anything yet)

The problem is right now there is no promo whatsoever. So I really feel like I gain nothing (typical Malaysian haha).
But the manager said that he will trade in my car at a higher price. He said he can estimate the car price there and then.

So I showed him my car,
A non metallic year 2007 SXi (manual) 1.3 MyVi (mileage was under 80k but he didn't even look at it)
PLUS stitch-in Full leather seat (from Carbi Deco) and he quoted me RM19k. There is RM4500 loan that need to be settled.



My question are?
1. Is that a good deal?
2. Can I try my luck asking for a full tank, tinting package etc (or did he already gave me huge trade in value?)
3. Is there a place where I can get an accurate/rough estimation of my car value? I've tried using Red Book but I don't have credit card anymore. (the method of payment is CC only)
4. If I wait a bit, let say til next year, would there be a significant difference? (I heard we will "lost a year" in trade in value if we bought car near the end of the year. ( I don't mind if there s a promo though )
5. I actually planning to keep my old plate no. Is there a charge for it?

Sorry if the questions are too trivial, this is the first time I am going to buy/trade in my car. Thank you so much ya all

http://www.oto.my/car-for-sale/94152/new-2...rz-kuala-lumpur

Master zenix, is this trustable in your opinion? RM8500 discount for 2013 i10?

Did u mean 2009 type r can get in rm128k?if reali,pls pm me d details.tq

I'm quite busy this week.
Hopefully can answer your questions before Friday

Why not?
You can also get a 2010/2009 VW Golf TSI for that price.

Limited service centers is hampering its growth.

RM160k only gets you a mid-spec Mazda6.
RM160k gets you a mid-spec to high-spec C200 depending on the seller/year made.

Prestige: Merc
Power: Merc
Reliability: Merc
Maintenance: Merc

What's the reason for choosing the Mazda6?
The looks? Or because it is new?
For the looks and technology might as well buy a 2013 Suzuki Kizashi which is just as rare and expensive to maintain but has much better safety features.

2013 Honda Jazz Hybrid - for about RM79k you can get yourself a new jazz hybrid which is a pretty sweet deal considering it is a new car. Everything about this car is good except when you start to think about resale value, unfortunately currently resale value for hybrids is terrible because generally people think replacement parts are expensive especially for the battery which everyone is most worried about they think it is 3 years warranty and rm20k to replace.....but actually it is more like 8years warranty and rm3.5k to replace. So be at the front of the curve because generally people think hybrids are no good thats why companies selling them cheaper to get the volume....get it now while its cheap....prices and resale should go up when people clear the stupid myths away.

if you think VW's i recommended are "high maintenance cost" then Peugeot, Mazda and Ford are in the same category, frankly speaking it all depends on what is most important if speed is a main criteria then maintenance is of course going to be costly because to generate speed the hardware needs to work harder and the harder it works the more maintenance it needs in terms of parts wear and tear, plus quality of parts used.

something cheap and slow like a Saga is okay to use lower quality lubricants and parts because it is designed as a basic transportation workhorse going from A-B, but you want to go from A-B faster the parts will wear out faster so to put back reliability into the equation manufacturers need to use better parts and higher quality lubricants.

now you come to the zone of pugs, mazda, ford, vw where the cars are fast but maintenance is also high, so now the balance is to choose which car is worth the headache of extra maintenance cost (time and money) so then you look at what else it can offer you.

lets say the maintenance is equal and performance is equal - then you're only left to choose the design and brand you like, but in the real work you need to balance more than that.....performance, maintenance, looks, brand, resale value, etc. all comes into play.

So lets make a quick look at the cars...

2013 Mazda 3 - speed is decent since it is 2000cc, but it is more of a hatch than a sedan, but no turbo means no rush of power, resale value ain't never good for this car.

2014 Peugeot 408 - this is seriously cheap as I remembered this model isn't sub-100k priced, if it is really this price then of course its quite worth it, its got a nice turbo and good power output, maintenance is a pain but getting something like this on the cheap might be worth the trouble, resale ain't never good for this brand.

2013 Nissan Sylphy - safe choice, decent resale value, decent power, decent safety equipment but lacking traction control for this segment, overall....might be abit too mundane.

2009 Honda Accord 2.5 - if you're going to get a second hand Accord then aim for the 2400cc version as it has better power output, the 2000cc is decent and power difference ain't noticeable when you test drive it at the showroom but you'll know the difference in real world driving when your highspeed cruising uses more petrol than it should when maintaining highspeeds, pickup is abit less responsive for alot of start/stop traffic, and going up genting is a little bit harder.

2010 VW Golf TSI - can't afford the GTI then just get the TSI, still much better than getting a Sylphy/Mazda3/Focus.

In terms of what?

Brand: Vios - many people will say you made the smart choice, getting your father-in-law to like you also easier.
Resale: Vios - undeniable after so many generations.
Power: CFE tuned, stock condition CFE isn't much to shout about.
Size: CFE is C-segment, bigger than Vios B-segment

1. He gave you a ballpark number based purely on the model and how much the bank is willing to loan for this car, lets say the bank will allow this car to loan up to RM20k only then he will sometimes quote you lower expecting you to negotiate with him if not he may just pocket the difference. Usually, whatever accessories you put in doesn't count unless you're selling it directly to another guy else just sell the accessories seperately and give the used car salesman an empty car.

2. Every salesman has alot in his pocket, you can always try. Even if one declines you can always get from another salesman in the same showroom or from another showroom. Do check what is the market price for cars of your spec on websites such as mudah and oto.

3. Yes, the bank/insurance valuation of your car when you buy the insurance. So you see how much the insurance willing to cover for your car if total lost or stolen - that's the true value of the car. Accessories if not factory fitted aren't counted.

4. New car just launch, you're on the losing end if you expect they'll drop the price for 2013 year end sales.

5. IINM RM300 for swap, you can double check at JPJ website. But that's the price if you do it yourself, when runners are in the picture at least need to inflate the price by RM100.

Dunno bro, koreans never gave me a good impression, don't follow their cars much.
Why not up abit for the mitsubishi mirage/attrage?

Probably for a used FN2R but definately not FD2R.
What is FN2R? Look here.