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freedom8901
post Nov 29 2012, 02:24 PM

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Hi, a newbie here^^

I am having a struggle between mirage and i10, guys can provide me with some advice?

Thanks much much!
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post Dec 12 2012, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Dec 12 2012, 11:19 AM)

i think the mirage is better.
5 years warranty and 3 years free maintenance sounds good too.


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I remembered that i10 also comes with 5 years warranty? And I am aiming for an auto gear car, just wondering is 60k for mirage worth it compared with i10 which is about 55k?
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post Jan 4 2013, 10:11 PM

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Thank you so much zenix for your recommendation, I would certainly look out for next year end discount for mirage.

Just wondering about something about second hand car after i go through a lot of your suggestion from mudah such as the 07 City with about ~90k mileage and priced at ~40k, I feel that this is truly a great bargain and it is within my budget. So, if compared with a brand new Myvi, which is almost the same price range for the most basic line, is it better to take this 07 City than a brand new Myvi?
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post Jan 9 2013, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jan 9 2013, 12:20 AM)
Yes! the car is very good and isn't that old yet.
However, do make sure that the CVT is well taken care off.
Look through service records if its been always serviced at Honda and test the CVT.
The engine is pretty though so no worries about it.
Its alot more safer than a myvi.
My current ride is also a 07 city vtec 95k mileage now, might put it on the market later this year  laugh.gif
Yup, agreed with you bro rclxms.gif
I would always preferred a Japanese brand car, although used. Sure hopes by end of this year it is still available, or other great bargain like this, such as yours drool.gif
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post Jan 29 2013, 02:03 AM

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http://www.oto.my/car-for-sale/20552/used-...r-spec-selangor

Hi zenix,

This babe that you recommended is awesome, honestly i am very attracted by it as I myself am hoping to buy one although it is way over my budget (~50k+) for a new one, that why I am only aiming i10 and mirage, honestly the price do seems a bit unbelievable compared with the other 2010 mazda2, could it be something wrong with it? Maybe due to the high mileage?

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post Jan 29 2013, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jan 29 2013, 10:18 AM)
could be a pre-reg clear stock.
seriously i10?
you'd be better off buying a Perodua.
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So master zenix you would take a Myvi than a i10? I am very troubled by P1 and P2 quality issues and I am hoping to get a reliable first car for myself, although I know korean car high maintenance cost and depreciates a lot, is this why you choose Perodua?

A pre-reg clear stock? Can you elaborate more on this?

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post Jan 29 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jan 29 2013, 11:44 AM)
pre-reg are cars already registered under the company.
usually to hit the targets set by their principle or as demo car.

myvi doesn't have quality issues as far as i know.
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Hmmm....so seems like i10 is out of the game, i am very tempted to take the 2010 mazda2, I like its design very much and is a sedan and pure japanese car compared with Myvi, but I i will be taking loan after maybe 10k downpayment, so is it worth it compared with a brand new Myvi?
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post Jan 30 2013, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jan 30 2013, 09:04 AM)
I think that's one way to go about it.
You should really call up the Mazda2 to check if it is still available, as that is the only one going for within your price range.
i10 i think it is an okay car but depreciation and slightly higher maintenance i don't feel it is worth it, however, if you really like it then go for it.
If it is just something you're settling for and don't really like it then I think P2 is better since it won't depreciate so badly you can afford another car in 5-7 years.
What you say is so true, actually myvi is very ugly in my opinion, which is why i rather pick i10 or saga over it, but I know it is a play safe car to choose.

I saw another great mazda2 u recommended in mudah, a 2011 car with only half the mileage compared with the 2010 model, and the price is only 4k higher, and since is still under warranty i think it is a good buy.

Arigatou, master zenix notworthy.gif

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post Jan 31 2013, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jan 31 2013, 08:55 AM)
i think saga/myvi are decent choices.
new car, quite boring but won't depreciate alot so buying it 50k now, maybe in 5 years time can sell around 20-30k can still buy a better car smile.gif
if the mazda still available faster go grab  brows.gif
Yup, the mazda truly is irresistible drool.gif

But regarding the pre-reg car, you mentioned that it is usually placed lower than market price. So, does it means that it is a good buy compared with the usual second hand car which is registered under a person? Means that in terms of the quality and reliability of the car, is a pre-reg car better? And I think that a pre-reg car is normally not involved in accidents or black-listed right hmm.gif

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post Feb 2 2013, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Feb 1 2013, 07:10 PM)
and yup..any car meter millage can be re-adjust (analog or digital)
OMG is this really true?? Mileage has always been used as the benchmark, then what can we use as reference when we are evaluating second hand cars shocking.gif

QUOTE(setkuan @ Feb 1 2013, 10:14 PM)
Pls help me choose, I really don't know which one is best suits me, ppl is keep telling me don't buy the Viva Elite Ezi, it's really don't worth it, a milo tin.  But I think it easier to control than Myvi.  blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif
Urgent, urgent, Thankiew~
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In my humble opinion, I feel that is totally not worth as with that price you can really get yourself a myvi or saga (although size is your concern), it is the same case as getting a myvi extreme, I still don't get it why people pay extra 10k+ for a myvi, just feel that is so not worth as with 60k, you can actually get a preve. And since your budget is 55k max, why don't you consider mirage? at least it is a Japanese car, fuel saving (although not sure how true is the 21KM/L) and comes with 5 years warranty(again, size is your concern)? But I don't think the size is really a big issue, just give yourself some time and you will be fine as by putting the priority on size alone blinded you for other better choice.

But that was just a slice of my thought, lets hear the opinion of some professional sifus rclxms.gif
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post Jul 2 2013, 04:27 PM

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Dear zenix,

I have been having DEEEEEEEEP dilemma, thanks to Saga SV, as it threatens my stand to get the Myvi 1.3SE for it is 10K cheaper, may I know what's your view on this? Is 10K worth to get the Myvi?

Arigatou^^
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post Oct 14 2013, 10:25 PM

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http://www.oto.my/car-for-sale/94152/new-2...rz-kuala-lumpur

Master zenix, is this trustable in your opinion? RM8500 discount for 2013 i10?
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:19 PM

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Bro zenix, I understand you are not a big fan of korean car, but my budget is only max RM45000 so I am currently considering new Myvi 1.3SE and Hyundai i10 1.25 colourz, which after rebate their price is almost the same, may I know your view on this?
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post Nov 21 2013, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 20 2013, 05:35 PM)

This is why I really hoped Honda bring in the Brio and Brio Amaze to Malaysia to show them how to do A-segment cars.



2013 Brio Amaze Sedan V-spec THB521k @ RM52k
2013 Brio Hatch Limited Edition Spec THB533k @ RM53k
* Lowest spec with automatic transmission is RM45k

Though because of our automotive policies don't expect that kinda price so then it doesn't make sense for Honda to bring it here so because it would be priced to closely to the City and Jazz.

What Australia thinks of the Bio?

Key sub-B segment competitors include the Suzuki Alto from $11,790, Holden Barina Spark from $12,490 and Volkswagen’s new Up, which kicks off from $13,990 for the three-door against rival five-door configurations, but introduces new levels of standard safety technology such as low-speed emergency braking for a class-leading five-star ANCAP crash-test rating.

Launched in early 2011, the Brio is 3610mm long, 1680mm wide and 1485mm tall, sits on a 2345mm wheelbase, and is built in India and Thailand, with Indonesia joining in from next year.

If the Brio does come to Australia, it will likely arrive from Thailand, where most local Hondas are sourced, or Indonesia.


It is okay....Malaysia's Melaka plant is a mothball making stuff only for local consumption, not a global player coz we already have Proton dry.gif
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It would be selling like hotcakes if we can get a Japanese car with less than 50k, such a waste doh.gif

How should I choose if it is between Myvi and i10?

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post Nov 22 2013, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 22 2013, 02:26 AM)

I think for the sake of reliability, resale value and headache free maintenance its best to go with the Myvi, eventhough its sort of abit expensive for what it offers. Though, if you aren't in a hurry then wait until January comes around I think there will be one or two more new car launches and also some special discount to entice buyers to buy a new car for CNY.

I do think the Mitsubishi Attrage/Mirage or Nissan Almera would be good choices too but they seem abit out of your budget, unless you're willing to pay more on the monthly or more in the deposit.
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I too prefer japanese more than korean/local, and I will grab the Mirage if there is any rebate that cut its price to below RM50k drool.gif

i understand that in terms of resale value and maintenance Myvi is the winner, but reliability wise as well?
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post Nov 22 2013, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 22 2013, 12:03 PM)
koreans and locals are much the same, their technology is derived from japanese.
so lets say reliability is about equal when they come out from the factory.
however, myvi being a staple here for a long time there are many perodua 3s/sc you can go to for service and all cherry tree workshops can handle this car, plus abundance of parts at different quality level (original, oem, fake, etc) -- which cannot be said for Hyundai cars.

overall, i10 is a decent car though you'll experience a few hiccups here and there.
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Thank you so much bro, I always thought that koreans is superior if compared to locals, and the current promotion for i10 which is about 10k discount and 5 years warranty is a big temptation. But I think I will just have to stick with Myvi rclxub.gif



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post Nov 26 2013, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 22 2013, 12:38 PM)
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I think when you compare with cars like Cerato 2013, Sonata 2013 and Optima 2013....yes they're very much superior to local cars, but at this range they're more or less equal. Since manufacturers don't pay much attention and R&D for compact cars in this price range -- cheap and relatively safe is the name of the game.
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Arigatou bro for the tips, hate to agreed that you are right where they wont spend much resources on entry level car, so have to end up becoming a Myvian tongue.gif

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post Nov 27 2013, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 26 2013, 02:34 PM)
if you're not in a rush to buy now wait until jan/feb.
there are a few models yet to come here or to be replaced.
plus i think attrage basic + manual at 59k is reachable for your budget  nod.gif
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Yup, I think I will probably wait until January next year, cause hope to get a new car for CNY. I am also eyeing the Alto, which I saw your previous post about it. I know the main issue is still about the lack of service center, but would you recommend this over Myvi?
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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 27 2013, 02:33 PM)
Mirage and Alto are of a different class from Myvi.
Myvi is B-segment, the other two are A-segment.

Safety: Mirage got ABS/EBD/5 star safety ANCAP, Alto got ABS/EBD/BA/3 star safety NCAP
Value: Mirage 1year free maintenance 3year warranty, Alto 5 year warranty

Both are smaller but give greater value, plus you're not fetching 5 people all the time why waste fuel?

Maintenance for the Mirage is listed here. I've listed the Alto above, you can compare the two.


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The maintenance list that you provided is excellent, I have always wondered how much the maintenance would cost. Like you said for reliability wise, its better to take Myvi than i10, so how about Alto? I really don't mind a smaller car, as long as it is worth it. Doesn't Alto comes with free maintenance?

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 27 2013, 05:18 PM)
Not too sure about current deal for Alto will have any free maintenance deal or not.
You can always check when you pop into the 3S for a visit.

I10, Alto and Mirage all are about the same.
They're A-segment cars.
Imported CBU.
Better spec than your average Viva/Myvi, but may not boast the same engine capacity.
3S/SC limited.
Resale value usually quite bad but since it is already cheap it cannot really depreciate much, probably Mirage is better in this than the rest.
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I think Alto have not yet comes with free maintenance from the sales agent advertisement I saw at mudah and oto, about the current Perodua RM1K rebate for fresh graduate and RM2K rebate for Myvi, will it continue until Jan? The sales agent said will end at December, although i don't really buy it, so wondering how the rebate would be for CNY.

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