Im actually considering to get that FN2R in the advertisement. Already test drove it few days ago.
What should i check when buying this recond car? Not familiar with recond/2nd hand cars.

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : 0k-60k
3. New/Used : used
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : Any
7. Type : D Segment/ MPV
8. Remarks : Im big sized with two sons and a wife , always balik kampung

Thanks for the help

This post has been edited by nabelon: Oct 16 2013, 07:21 PM

Hi i am looking for experienced people to help me with this

I am going to buy a new car

Budget 80-100k+

Is proton suprima S premium any good ?

I was told malaysia manufactured cars are lousy

Requirements are spacious , SAFETY , performance etc

Hi

Should I get the new Vios this year or wait till next year january 2014?
if book now, will confirm have car by end of 2013. Means the car will be registered under 2013 rather than 2014.

But Im just afraid purchasing the Vios in 2013 will depreciate faster than if I buy Vios in 2014. Additionally im afraid if I trade in my Proton car next year , its trade in value will fall as compare to trade in this year.


Can anyone give advice please on when should I get the car?.

Thanks Sifu Zenix for the reply. I have been in the new Mazda 6, and W204 at the showroom. The only concern I have is that the cabin size in W204 feels bit cramped while Mazda 6 is quite spacious for the front and back, except the roof is bit low for the back. Is the cabin size really bigger in Mazda 6??

@zenix

Thanks for your earlier comments and suggestions again.

Would you recommend me to go for Subaru or Mitsubishi (Price Range around 100k)?
p.s. Some guy told me Subarus aren't bad in terms of drive feel.

The one in the advertisement is decent.
You need to see the real condition to judge, but from the pictures look mint.
I have seen many pictures that look mint but when on closer inspection there are scratches and stuff, the worst is when the interior is in bad condition if the paintjob isn't good you can always repaint but interior will cost alot to replace, plus this car is rare so parts aren't easy to find nor would be cheap.

The rim doesn't look like what an original FN2R would wear.
Additionally better get real good insurance for your rear window, it would cost a bomb to replace when broken.

I do know many people would be comparing FN2R to the 208 GTI since they're about the same price range, 208 GTI is new while FN2R is recon. Well, can't really compare since FN2R is actually much more expensive if imported new should be about RM170k above, plus FN2R would be easier on your pocket when it comes to maintenance.

2012 Toyota Avanza 1.5 - you might see something like this and think it is a good buy since its spec is quite high, but by comparison a new Avanza (lowest spec) is only RM6,000 more if it is a good buy or not depends on what you think but considering the other cars available at this price the seller is really going below market rate.

2004 Honda Stream 2.0 - if this car was younger or cheaper I'd fully recommend it but as it is I think it is quite expensive, I don't think it is viable for you since it is going to be 10 years old soon plus you need it for travelling outstation so you need something reliable and won't be too expensive, so if you see cars around your budget but they're old do skip them.

2008 Nissan Grand Livina 1.8 - looking around for a good car for your usage was difficult however I do think such a car would be good for your needs. Although your family only need 4 seats the additional seats would be good when you balik kampung and need to take your relatives out, as my experience are when 'balik kampung' when travelling the car is full with luggage when at the kampung its full with people as you bring them out to makan as a family or outing so the additional seats are a plus either as people transport or folded as luggage space. I'd recommend you to take the top spec with 1800cc engine as although the 1600cc is capable, you'll have much better fuel efficiency and higher highway speeds with the 1800cc....plus overtaking is easier as this is important especially when overtaking lorries at trunk roads. Maintenance wise its easy and cheap. Even if you bring it back to Nissan 3S you can bring your own parts and lubricants they'll still accept but charge you the labor fees.

If you're going to buy a local car no matter if it is Saga/Persona/Inspira/Preve/Suprima.....don't put your expectations up too high.

When Preve came out it ticked all the boxes when it comes to safety (5 stars from ANCAP), performance (turbo engine), design (european look with DRL built into the headlamps), space (modern c-segment space for passenger and luggage), etc.

However, there were some disappointments but that's normal for every product and also not every manufacturer does anything about it. The performance of the turbo is sluggish was one of the biggest issues consumers had, there were other smaller niggles too, but many of these issues have been ironed out in the Suprima -- but it's still new so we cannot pass judgement yet.

In Malaysia <100k is still B-segment territory so don't put such a big hope.

The two brightest stars for this price range is either Ford Fiesta or Honda City, then those two also have their issues, so never perfect.

People usually have this problem because they bought a car in the middle of the year when the car companies have big promotion's for Raya or year end sales clearance. Yes, you get a big discount but in the future this will be the problem you're facing now. You've got two choices about this either wait until next year to get the Vios and take a hit on the resale value of your old Proton, or just buy the Vios now while you have a good price for your Proton as Vios normally has good resale value so the difference wouldn't be a big issue.

Of course the W204 would be more compact than the Mazda6, as the Mazda6 is the flagship car of the brand so it has to have the best technology, looks and space. So comparing to a W204 is quite silly, similarly you can also choose to compare Accord/Camry/Mazda6/Teana 2013 model with the W204 and they're all going to be much bigger than the W204 but when it comes to safety, spec, performance and prestige they'll all fall behind or are on par with the W204.

Plus also Merc has a weird way of classifying their cars. Their A-Class (which should be an A-segment car that would pit it against basic cars like Kancil/Viva) is much more of a C-segment hatch. Their C-Class (which should be a C-segment car that would pit it against cars like Civic/Jetta/Altis/etc) is thought to be a D-segment car which would pit it against Accord/Camry/Passat/etc.

Then there is what is termed of as compact D-segment which the W204 is part of, which are D-segment sedans but with compact body because of its sporty nature, such cars are like Suzuki Kizashi, Honda Accord Euro-R, etc.

So end of the day if size matters to you then go for Japanese D-segment such as Camry/Accord/Teana/Mazda6 they're always going to be cheaper and bigger, and some of them do match the safety and spec of Germans but not always.

which model you're talking about?

which bank is the best to get a loan for a used car ? im planning to buy a merc e280 around 120-140k

this is the best so far, but any special deals are still only available at the bank itself.
you can usually get better and some rebates sometimes.

http://www.imoney.my/car-loan

Thanks for the tip. What bout D segment?

it's gotta be older.

2006 Honda Accord 2.0 - the 2000cc considered abit underpowered is usually cheaper to buy used than a Camry, a good buy in many ways, however not many are up for sale below RM60k and going to 2006 meaning that in 3 years time the car would be 10 years old. if you don't mind the age because honda's if kept and maintain well shouldn't be much of an issue then it's alright.

I went to see the real thing already and drove it. To me, its all good. They say theyre going to repaint it with no cost, and recondition the rims and service it before releasing it to me. The rims are not standard FN2R rims, its 19".

Can you suggest other cars that are below RM 130k that are fast, or atleast fun to drive. Able to do a lot of upgrades etc.

The 208 GTi is also quite nice, but its Peugeot and not really a fan. Most people thinks its the normal 208 4 door version.

If you dont mind used, i would suggest the mrs or celica (im currently looking into it atm). 350z is at about 100k but i guess maintainance will kill u lol.

This post has been edited by DaVic90: Oct 18 2013, 01:07 AM

Did you test drive the car?
Engine start any issues? Even if it hesitates abit you should think twice, sometimes they say is battery weak and will change it before giving to you but sometimes its a starter issue so a new battery just is a temporary fix.

I've my doubts they will repaint the car for you at no cost, most likely they'll bring it to a shop get the guy to touch-up spray a few bits here and there which is cheap then use cheap polish to grind it all down blend in the colors, then wax it (come don't even wax) to make it shine.

You're happy they're giving you 19" unknown rims instead of originals?
Original FN2R or FD2R rims are perfectly weighted for the car to give maximum performance, they are also sought after as used items so any car dealer can make a quick buck selling those off and putting on some cheapo taiwan rims with Honda logo's.

Around this range you can consider either 2007/2008 Scirocco/Golf GTI for recon/used.

Don't be an ignorant fool the 208 GTI comes as a coupe only, where got 4 doors.

Yeap, they said the battery is weak so they had to jump start it. How do i know if its the starter issue?

Im more happy if they give me the standard FN2R rims than that big ass 19" rolling with 35/19 tires.
But couldnt find any FN2R other than that one in the advertisement.

I couldnt find a MK6 Golf Gti below 140k, maybe have to check out MK5 instead.

I meant some people thought the 208 GTi is the normal 208 with 4 doors. Because they look pretty much the same apart from the doors difference, interior and the engine.

The celica is also not bad, how much is it?

Hi all!

First time car buyer here. Need you feedback on this issue.

Honda City 1.5 I-VTEC E 2010
RM62k
Used
Auto
Mileage 59k

OR

Toyota Vios 1.5 G 2011
RM62k
Used - Seller says Recon
Auto
Mileage 20k

I feel like going for City since it has better spec (Paddle shift, immobiliser, ESP), but the low mileage on Vios is tempting.

What I would like to know is the overall factor. Which one is better that suites my budget nicely, a car that can last at least 5-10 years, fuel consumption, maintenance cost, etc.

I appreciate fellow forumers' advice and sharing on this. Thank you for your time.

This post has been edited by Kazachok: Oct 18 2013, 12:15 PM

Can't really say, even if you bring a mechanic with you unless he can take it apart he can't let you know.

They might know there are issues with the car but will still try to hide it from you as repairs or discounts will eat into their margin, best to be vigilant and informed -- remember you're not obliged to buy if you feel it is not worth it no matter what they say so don't get bullied.

It could be that they already sold the rims when the car arrives, easily RM2000-4000 depending on condition.

Well, GTI is good and powerful but the TSI is no slouch.
GTI MK5 is within your range but then the warranty would be over, unless you get recon at least you got 6 months.
GTI TSI is within your range and still have 2-3 years warranty.

This post has been edited by zenix: Oct 18 2013, 01:52 PM

city s don have the gadget u mentioned, wasnt it ?