don't la.. looks weird one!! Keep back as standard MS cut better.. actually I think he looks quite cute in mohawk, if the mohawk line is define more clearly and better.

or cut da side skirt lar..keep da hair at mouth and legs lor..

my doggie cut botak b4..kinda looks like a chihuahua coz the legs are skinny!! but after bout 2mths the hair grow back a bit then looks ok la..but its much easier to maintain..after bath can blow dry faster..

everytime when i bath my Phoebe i also will laugh at her
when ms got wet, it really look like a mini stray dogs
so, i dont think cutting botak is a good idea also...

Hey guys. I got a miniature schnauzer which I picked up from my neighbourhood area last year. Apparently his original owner abandoned him due to his cleft lip defect. Now I think he is almost 2 years old. However, my whole family has a big problem with him. When I first picked him back, he was very obedient and let us touch and hug him. But 5 months or so after keeping him, he started to become very fierce and resist us to touch him until now. When anyone touches him slightly, he will bark and try to bite us. Everyone in my family has been biten by him before. My mom and I consulted a vet, he said maybe my dog has a surge of hormone during puberty, and he suggested us to have him castrated. So,3 months ago, my schnauzer was castrated. It seemed like he became a bit tamer, but didn't change much. He gets moody easily, sometimes can be extremely playful and active, sometimes just not as active as usual, and this is the time we cannot touch him at all. And he will bark at everyone except my family and me. Whenever some strangers walk past or near to my house, he will keep barking until lose sight of them. When friends or relatives come, he will bark and try to rush toward them, seems like he wanna bite them. My mom and I are worried that someday he might bite people and he will have to be put to sleep. My vet told us to give up on him, saying that dog who bites its owner cannot be kept. But my whole family loves him so much that we can't just let him leave. We wanna caress and hug him, but we can't. And sometimes we have problem bathing him, since he will bite us if he is not in good mood.

I really wanna know what are the possible reasons of his attitude and what can I do to make him tamer. Please gimme some suggestions. Thanks.

so sorry to hear about dat. was it because he was abandoned by da previous owner so he got a lil bad temper? I've never encounter dis kinda problem before but my Happy will bark at strangers and anyone dat come into my house. Luckily he din try to bite them lar. Maybe u can try spend more time wif him, tok wif him and play wif him so dat he will be closer to u and ur family.

could it be his previous owner haf torture him before and it make him feel very protective now...consult other vets...giving him up isnt a good idea...take it slowly and i believe he will gain the trust slowly...because nobody knws wat he haf been tru in the past...i believe he just being so fierce is to protect himsef...try to play with him using some toys or snacks...talk to him more...he will slowly understand and accept u and ur family haf no harm on him...dun give him up...dun make it happen the second time on him...

First....welcome to the house of schnauzer..... no express way for this problem solving but i believed this problem can be solved if u spend more time on him.....bring him for a short walk everyday to destress him(if u chain him up everyday) , whenever you try to touch or contacting with him...try not to squad down....make sure your position(standing) is higher than his position.... and let him know who is the owner and who he shld listen too... some dogs got confused easily when he /she do not know who is their owner...

Try to check with other vets (body check ) see if he having any problem(pain) in certain parts.. this is because some dogs will turn defensive whn they are in real pain...

Besides this, you can try to socialize your dogs with other dogs...

"My vet told us to give up on him, saying that dog who bites its owner cannot be kept. "

zha dou,he is juz tat small,wont really bite ppl until death rite? why give up so easily?
tell u what, my dog is very sensitive too,she barks strangers,visitors,cats very crazily ,evrytime my frens come,they must pet her 2 get her trust otherwise she will juz bark all time.
maybe u can ask ur family 2 feed her,dogs oways obey to ppl who feed them.
if really no ways 2 solve,just send her to dog obedience training.

This post has been edited by fernando torres: Nov 21 2009, 03:22 PM

yalor..u can bring him to our next outing ge mah..maybe next month?

by the way, can i know which vet clinic u went?? who is the doctor that advised you to give up your dog?? so that ... i can blacklist that clinic...definitely not in my vet clinic list anymore.... anyone agree?

This post has been edited by jason86: Nov 21 2009, 03:38 PM

yalo yalo!!!

got such doctor....ask owner to give up a small breed dog.. because of the problem and the problem not happne all the time...so stupid ...

I don't think it's because the previous owner tortured him, because when he was abandoned, he was only about 3 months old and after I picked him back, he was very obedient and let us hug him whenever we want. But he indeed had a hard time. When I picked him up, he was bony and he even ate grass and lizard stool until we gave him dog food for a month, then only he stopped.
I think he started become aggresive due to puberty onset. I don't really sure when because I went oversea after 2 months keeping him. My mom told me that was the time he changed. I think something has been wrong with the way my family treating him. My father treats him like a little kid that he will be like "Oh bibi, look at you, you have become so fat now, let me pat ur ass ya." Maybe my dog doesn't like that and started become resistant to our stroke.
One interesting thing is that after he bites us, his mouth will tremble and he will hide in a corner, seems like he is scared or what. It looks like it's not his will to attack us but he just can't control himself. But when we wanna touch him again, he will become fierce again.
Honestly, we spend a lot of time playing with and talking to him. And he will be very happy and active, but when we touch him, he changes abruptly. Now, sometimes we can touch him just for a few seconds when he is distracted and in good mood, but not more than that. We also let him socialise with other dogs. He like his species very much but we don't dare to let him be close to others coz we're afraid that he might attack.
My vet also told me maybe there is pain in some parts of his body so he doesn't let us touch. But after examination, nothing was wrong. Sometimes he has skin infection but after recovering, he is still like that.
And the vet clinic is run by father and son. The father is the one asked me to give up but the son is very nice. And the father is the only person my dog scared of, coz the father scolded my dog very loudly and fiercely before when my dog barked at him and tried to bite him. When the father shouted at him, he immediately shut up. LOL, not bad also he has someone to be afraid of.

Haiz, I really have thought and tried all of the ways I can think of to change his behaviour but only little improvement has been seen. I know it's a really rare situation because miniature schnauzer should be tame and obedient as a home pet. But don't worry, we will never give up on him, just that we are worried that someday troubles might arise due to his behaviour.

Hi there....I saw an episode of aggresive dog on Animal Planet and the trainer use high value treats such as warm chicken or warm sausage to give to the dog while slowly stroking it. Then it will associate the good feeling of treats with stroking and wouldn't resist or be aggresive towards human touch. Just one suggestion.

[quote=kerrie,Nov 14 2009, 11:47 PM]
Hi Jenny. Ur ms is female or male? Got name for him/her yet?

he is a boy and his name is Tom...because my poodle is call Jerry...so they are Tom & Jerry...hehe ...

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[quote=kerrie,Nov 14 2009, 11:47 PM]
Hi Jenny. Ur ms is female or male? Got name for him/her yet?

he is a boy and his name is Tom...because my poodle is call Jerry...so they are Tom & Jerry...hehe ...

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lolz..wat a cute name. got pic of tom?

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Added on November 22, 2009, 12:48 am[quote=Aeiou11,Nov 21 2009, 04:59 PM]
I don't think it's because the previous owner tortured him, because when he was abandoned, he was only about 3 months old and after I picked him back, he was very obedient and let us hug him whenever we want. But he indeed had a hard time. When I picked him up, he was bony and he even ate grass and lizard stool until we gave him dog food for a month, then only he stopped.
I think he started become aggresive due to puberty onset. I don't really sure when because I went oversea after 2 months keeping him. My mom told me that was the time he changed. I think something has been wrong with the way my family treating him. My father treats him like a little kid that he will be like "Oh bibi, look at you, you have become so fat now, let me pat ur ass ya." Maybe my dog doesn't like that and started become resistant to our stroke.
One interesting thing is that after he bites us, his mouth will tremble and he will hide in a corner, seems like he is scared or what. It looks like it's not his will to attack us but he just can't control himself. But when we wanna touch him again, he will become fierce again.
Honestly, we spend a lot of time playing with and talking to him. And he will be very happy and active, but when we touch him, he changes abruptly. Now, sometimes we can touch him just for a few seconds when he is distracted and in good mood, but not more than that. We also let him socialise with other dogs. He like his species very much but we don't dare to let him be close to others coz we're afraid that he might attack.
My vet also told me maybe there is pain in some parts of his body so he doesn't let us touch. But after examination, nothing was wrong. Sometimes he has skin infection but after recovering, he is still like that.
And the vet clinic is run by father and son. The father is the one asked me to give up but the son is very nice. And the father is the only person my dog scared of, coz the father scolded my dog very loudly and fiercely before when my dog barked at him and tried to bite him. When the father shouted at him, he immediately shut up. LOL, not bad also he has someone to be afraid of.

Haiz, I really have thought and tried all of the ways I can think of to change his behaviour but only little improvement has been seen. I know it's a really rare situation because miniature schnauzer should be tame and obedient as a home pet. But don't worry, we will never give up on him, just that we are worried that someday troubles might arise due to his behaviour.

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maybe bcoz he got hurt at da back before so now he dun like ppl touch his back isit? coz my happy oso like dat. he dun like wen ppl touch his butt...sumtimes wen i play wif him, i will pinch his butt and he will turn around and bite me.

This post has been edited by kerrie: Nov 22 2009, 12:48 AM

Max's routine has gone haywire in the past week. Previously he will poop in the tray immediately after breakfast n dinner. Now he just wont. When I put him in the tray, he will whine and can even lie down n rest there .......Max's routine has gone haywire in the past week. Previously he will poop in the tray immediately after breakfast n dinner. Now he just wont. When I put him in the tray, he will whine and can even lie down n rest there .......

This post has been edited by rkkyong: Nov 22 2009, 09:45 AM

how come? if he lie on da tray, then dirty d lor?

really dunno wat happened. regressin to be a baby again ....

Anyway was at doggie fair @ central park, one utama just now. Saw a MS wit wat they call a "horse" cut at pets icon stall. Very cute. Tot mohican but they say horse