When i was in jakarta, i always goes to work using taxis. In indonesia, they use sentra and vios as their taxis.

I found out sentra is more spacious compare with vios. It can fit 3 adults or sometime 4 adults at the rear seat but in vios 3 adult is just nice.

In sentra it is more silent and more luxury if compare to vios.
As the result we always ask for sentra rather than vios.

If the money with me, i will goes for sentra based on the experience i have with sentra in indonesia.

of course sentra lorrr....... u want bigger car or smaller? lol one is b-segment (vios) and another is c-segment (sentra)

personally i prefer sentra, my bro is driving one, FC wise not that bad one full tank of petrol can get u around 420 - 450km depending on how u drive and where u mostly drive, if mostly highway, u'll hit 470 - 500km easily

power wise? not that bad lerrr but max speed erhmmm a bit lousy lor very hard to reach 160km hehe

How much the nissan sentra for the full tank?? I oso like sentra very much... jz scare it got problem if get second hand...
Now jz wan go test drive for sentra n vios lo...

Satria Neo Campro CPS, if you aren't for bootspace...and family...and NOT tall.

fun to drive, and Lotus tuned...FC is logically depends on how much fun you wish to squeeze from it.

all second hand car risk to have problem.. there are several types of ppl who sell their car eg:
1. people who upgrading to new car and trade in their good conditioned old car
2. people who think current car gives too much problem and sell it (normally contis due to high cost of maintenence)
3. people who is short of money and have to sell his/her car urgently without repairing the fault (and hiding it)

best if u can get car from the 1st case.. but mostly people sell their car due to 2nd and 3rd case
even if u get vios which is said to be problem free, it might not so for second hand car.. anyway, vios is 1 of the worst toyota ever.. fact!
juz my thought

full tank around 70 - 75, depends on when u refill it after the low fuel indicator blinks
hmmm well i personally believe the engine itself wont give u much problem as its 1 reliable engine, old school tech maaa lol
but still good luck in searching 2nd car lorrr, wont always be so unlucky and got a car which gives so many problem right?

Actually where did you guys get those information Sentra is having old tech and Vios is ultra super high tech? What is the technology Vios has and make you guys think it is more technology advance than Sentra? VVT-i? If you think about this VVT-i is ultra super duper high tech, then please google it first. For me, if you travel around town more often, then Vios is enough already, but if you travel long distance more often, then no need to think, Sentra is the better choice.

Vios high tech?

ZOMG. I think I'll discover forced induction tomorrow.

TS were mentioned about year 2004/2005 Toyota Vios, I never heard of that generation of Vios is so called "Dugong" look. It's no point to bash Toyota Vios here, TS just ask for some information but those jerky comment.

Most second hand Sentra, I've seen seems to have better interiors vs Vios. Don't know if its quality are better or all the previous owners take very good care of them.
Yup Sentra 1.6 feels more spacious. Don't know about the FC cos my nephew don't bother tracking. Anyway it is already in its year 3. So far maintenance no major issue or problem.
If you buying new then I would pick Vios but if second hand, Sentra with low mileage would be a better choice.

This post has been edited by DarkNite: Sep 27 2009, 10:10 AM

If I might add, between VIOS and LATIO (new), I'll go for LATIO
Because I like their wooden interior trimming, it's 1.6L and doesn't have that dull looking interior in the Dugong and at least I am away from the "too common" VIOS. VIOS is fast becoming the next common "Proton Wira" on the road.

Price also starts from RM84,680.00 for manual version or RM88,980.00 onwards for the Auto version.


Okay, seriously, TS, go and check out the Sentra rather than listening to others bashing about Sentra "old la" and VIOS "latest technology, safe fuel la..etc". Follow your heart.

Hey Guys,

Something to share, I did ask the mechanic about choice between Nissan car and Toyota and Honda

Mechanic always recommended Toyota, main reason is simply it can get spare part (OEM) compare to Nissan, so maintenance cost is lower compare to Nissan and resell value is better as well. you always need to get genuine part of Nissan car.Honda always got problem on gear box after few year later...

I have test drive both, Compare to Sentra, Dugong Vios is spacious and more comfortable but driving experience not that good compare to Sentra ...i would like to give myself a chance to try on Latio Sedan, i believe it will be good however outlook of Latio pretty similar to New Proton Saga...not sure you guy agree with me

I believe 2nd Latio can't get around RM55k, do we have chance to get that ? i looking for 2nd car as well ...else will opt to pick Vios as it is cheapest among the all new car with same rank ..may be end of this year or next yr ...no money yet

yes true, most toyota (especially vius and mypasso) workshipper dont know what is the feeling to have the real good car.. all they care is the badge on the car.. toyota keep recycling old tech on new facelift/generation car is ok coz it is good but if other manufacture, they said the manufacture outdated lah, kiam sap lah, old tech lah

For me i go for Sentra! sentra 5 star safety not like vios little hit will get big damage the car... and driver a big car better than drive a small car mah!

in before toyota has goa body and all is 5 stars safety

that's because the mechanic don't know shit about nissan (same with one of my mechanics who always recommend nissan over toyota).......with a 2nd hand car like the sentra, we always look for potong parts which are way.........cheaper than the overpriced stupid OEM toyota parts (i'm using a toyota also, so don't say i'm a toyota basher). Bought a Vios??? crashed your car? need parts? don't bother to look in potong shops.....because there aren't any there....buy new......buy OEM....with a "price"......muahahaha!

Latio's interior looks too cheap, as is with the stupid Vios......older cars have better quality........looks and feels nicer too, no idea why, maybe because older cars "used to" be more expensive cars

And my friends and i have driven Nissan for such a long time, they have made very reliable engines, no matter how we rev it, torture it, rape it and it just won't die

I'm not saying that toyota doesn't make reliable engines, just not as reliable as nissan's, i've blown a couple of them, all toyotas and they r all standard engines, not modified at all, u can't drive a toyota like u drive a nissan, they aren't bulletproof (nissan is)

hi Stormlcc,

I agreed with you nowaday new Car are mostly overprice and not worth for money in the sense that you pay more with less material quality ...i guess every manufacturer trying to cut cost ..too bad to hear that ..

for the case of spare part, i trying to highlight variety OEM parts for Toyota have more choices than Nissan...of caused it is another choice for potong parts, but availability will mostly depend on your luck ..wish you can recommend good potong part shop if you are in KL ..so we can get an alternative in future

By the way, are you taking current Nissan Sentra model ? any chance to compare the Petrol consumption with Dugong VIOS ?

using the cheap plastic interior kononnya to reduce weight
btw, u cant compare compact car's fc with subcompact's fc..

To all whom replied, please comment based on just d N16 Sentra n NCP42 Vios (not dugong please coz its on a different chasis).

As for machanics sayin so-and-so maker is better, it may not always b d case coz of different experiences, know-hows, training, spare-part supplier contacts etc. If u study even deeper, some spare parts supplier even claim tat certain models r rubbish while others swear tat its d opposite.

For those who say whichever model cost a bomb to repair or reliability issues, please state proof/example or at least provide a figure. Otherwise it holds no water.

I'm speaking of tis coz I hv been to spare part shops n mechanics n hv been doin some level of self maintenence for my own n some relatives rides since my schooling days. Further more, some negative claims r merely for bashing.

My comment on d N16 Sentra n NCP42 Vios as follows r based on my hands on drivin n some maintenence on both.

Sentra
+ space (interior n boot)
+ averagely higher quality materials used than Vios (knock on d dashboard n door panels test)
+ ride on d firm side but still more comfortable than Vios
+ timing chain
- higher fc due to weight n mismatched engine to chasis, but acceptable for 1.6cc range
- vague steering

Vios
+ compact as in better parking n more suited for 4 adults max
+ better get-up-n-go due to power to weight ratio
+ better fc due to frugal engine n weight
+ better steering feedback than Sentra
- engine too noisy at highway speeds (similarly to Avanza, Rush which uses d same engine design n layout Xcept block material)
- less stable at 100kmh+ speeds n may sway at crosswinds in stock form
- lower material quality than Sentra (note that Vios was designed as a budget car to undercut Altis/Sentra category in d 1st place)
- rear head room (I'm 175 n still dun like d rear seats)

Others/Conclusion
Maintenence/Service availability n cost r generally almost d same n most mechanics should not hv any prob due to their simple designs n layouts.

Key deciding points:
Vios for fc n city driving
Sentra for comfort n long distance driving

This post has been edited by Deja Vu: Sep 29 2009, 07:53 AM

LOL..not really...quite the same as sentra..as i drive sentra (latest version, 4 years old) full tank goes to the same as vios (my mum 1, not dugong though) and the mileage can goes to the same as well..
i drove manual 1.6 with 17" rim, FC is about 0.14-0.15 cent/km in cities drive.
and sentra probably has less pick up compare to vios due to the heavy weight body..

for my self opinion i prefer more stable and safety 1st car..so i choose sentra...
i tried b4 driving 180km/h for both car (vios at kesas highway, on the way to KLIA and sentra at north south highway goin to penang) at 120km/h vios is less stable edy...like flying which the tyres has less grip..and at 180km/h it will go straight when u start conerning..it was like no grip at all..but for sentra at 160km/h still stable and at 180km/h starting to feel like 120km/h vios..

for maintainence issue, i could says that nissan is more expensive and most of the parts is from APM which locally made.

as i search for the dugong version review last few months, many of them says there's problem with the sound coming out from the front compartment which toyota service centre also couldnt do anything bout it or didnt do anything bout it...
and then again..toyota service centre bcome more and more lousy...

cheers.

This post has been edited by tsg_7: Sep 28 2009, 05:52 PM