Sep 28 2009, 05:53 PM
QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Sep 28 2009, 05:19 PM)
To all whom replied, please comment based on just d N16 Sentra n NCP42 Vios (not dugong please coz its on a different chasis).
As for machanics sayin so-and-so maker is better, it may not always b d case coz of different experiences, know-hows, training, spare-part supplier contacts etc. If u study even deeper, some spare parts supplier even claim tat certain models r rubbish while others swear tat its d opposite.
For those who say whichever model cost a bomb to repair or reliability issues, please state proof/example or at least provide a figure. Otherwise it holds no water.
I'm speaking of tis coz I hv been to spare part shops n mechanics n hv been doin some level of self maintenence for my own n some relatives rides since my schooling days. Further more, some negative claims r merely for bashing.
My comment on d N16 Sentra n NCP42 Vios as follows r based on my hands on drivin n some maintenence on both.
Sentra
+ space (interior n boot)
+ averagely higher quality materials used than Vios (knock on d dashboard n door panels test)
+ ride on d firm side but still more comfortable than Vios
+ timing chain
- higher fc due to weight n mismatched engine to chasis, but acceptable for 1.6cc range
- vague steering
Vios
+ compact as in better parking n more suited for 4 adults max
+ better get-up-n-go due to power to weight ratio
+ better fc due to frugal engine n weight
+ better steering feedback than Sentra
- engine too noisy at highway speeds (similarly to Avanza, Rush which uses d same engine design n layout Xcept block material)
- less stable at 100kmh+ speeds n may sway at crosswinds in stock form
- lower material quality than Sentra (note that Vios was designed as a budget car to undercut Altis/Sentra category in d 1st place)
- rear head room (I'm 175 n still dun like d rear seats)
- timing belt
Others/Conclusion
Maintenence/Service availability n cost r generally almost d same n most mechanics should not hv any prob due to their simple designs n layouts.
Key deciding points:
Vios for fc n city driving
Sentra for comfort n long distance driving
Are you sure ? As for machanics sayin so-and-so maker is better, it may not always b d case coz of different experiences, know-hows, training, spare-part supplier contacts etc. If u study even deeper, some spare parts supplier even claim tat certain models r rubbish while others swear tat its d opposite.
For those who say whichever model cost a bomb to repair or reliability issues, please state proof/example or at least provide a figure. Otherwise it holds no water.
I'm speaking of tis coz I hv been to spare part shops n mechanics n hv been doin some level of self maintenence for my own n some relatives rides since my schooling days. Further more, some negative claims r merely for bashing.
My comment on d N16 Sentra n NCP42 Vios as follows r based on my hands on drivin n some maintenence on both.
Sentra
+ space (interior n boot)
+ averagely higher quality materials used than Vios (knock on d dashboard n door panels test)
+ ride on d firm side but still more comfortable than Vios
+ timing chain
- higher fc due to weight n mismatched engine to chasis, but acceptable for 1.6cc range
- vague steering
Vios
+ compact as in better parking n more suited for 4 adults max
+ better get-up-n-go due to power to weight ratio
+ better fc due to frugal engine n weight
+ better steering feedback than Sentra
- engine too noisy at highway speeds (similarly to Avanza, Rush which uses d same engine design n layout Xcept block material)
- less stable at 100kmh+ speeds n may sway at crosswinds in stock form
- lower material quality than Sentra (note that Vios was designed as a budget car to undercut Altis/Sentra category in d 1st place)
- rear head room (I'm 175 n still dun like d rear seats)
- timing belt
Others/Conclusion
Maintenence/Service availability n cost r generally almost d same n most mechanics should not hv any prob due to their simple designs n layouts.
Key deciding points:
Vios for fc n city driving
Sentra for comfort n long distance driving
Get your facts right. Vios 1NZ-FE is using timing chain. How do I know ? because I own one.
Spec. sheets : http://www.mr2.com/files/mr2/techinfo/Rand...0Data/1nzfe.pdf
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Sorry, sorry, my mistake. 
No doubts, its a ahpek driving style... LOL
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