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BikerVoodoo
post May 17 2010, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(lanatir @ May 17 2010, 09:10 AM)
doesn't look like a wholecut to me. a wholecut would mean that the upper is made from a single piece of leather.
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Hmmm maybe you're right. The shoelace area is a separate piece. Rest of shoe goes around 1-piece to the back where I presume it's stitched together and a covering tab goes over it.

First time wearing it to work today. It's a bit stiff so I'm walking a bit weird. whistling.gif

bloke1
post May 17 2010, 03:38 PM

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That does not look like patent leather either. It should be as glossy as those NS shoes.

What is the make?
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post May 17 2010, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(bloke1 @ May 17 2010, 03:38 PM)
That does not look like patent leather either. It should be as glossy as those NS shoes.

What is the make?
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looks like M&S
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post May 17 2010, 03:58 PM

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They're quite nice actually. I dig those.
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post May 17 2010, 04:21 PM

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hi lads, any idea where i can find a crocodile skin shoes?
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post May 17 2010, 04:40 PM

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http://photos.exposay.com/Dwayne_Johnson/d...hnson_x2ypd.jpg
i wanna buy a pair of leather shoes
which kind will fit this style? x)
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post May 17 2010, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(eddychstu @ May 17 2010, 04:21 PM)
hi lads, any idea where i can find a crocodile skin shoes?
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i think porrosus or something in KLCC has alot of croc and alligator skin stuffs
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post May 17 2010, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(lanatir @ May 17 2010, 03:49 PM)
looks like M&S
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M&S = Marks & Spencer? Nah these are Indonesian made shoes - "Mario Minardi". RM320 after discount at Isetan. Actual price RM450+ I think.
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post May 19 2010, 10:16 PM

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hey anyone tried TOMAZ?
i kinda like the platinum collection, but im worried bout the comfortness and quality.
comment anyone?

check them out here.
http://tomazitaly.blogspot.com/2010/01/tomaz-platinum.html
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post May 19 2010, 10:26 PM

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Those are shoes for peasants.
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post May 19 2010, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ May 19 2010, 10:26 PM)
Those are shoes for peasants.
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haha and why is that.
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post May 20 2010, 06:04 AM

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QUOTE(fixgd @ May 19 2010, 11:59 PM)
haha and why is that.
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The Tomaz stuff is bicast leather. This entry from Yahoo Answers answers it best:

Judy B gives a good description of how the product is made; but in several countries, and the number is growing, it is illegal to sell bicast as Leather- it must be sold as a synthetic. In some cases the substrate "leather" is even made from a fibrous mat of leather fibre from a deeply split leather compressed until smooth, and the top synthetic layer has the grain and color in it- I have seen it delaminate in sheets; leaving a colored grained film in one hand and grey/black smooth "leather" underneath.

The epidermal layer is where all the strength is- thats why the most expensive leather pieces are normally ones where the epidermis is intact because they were high quality hides with little or no markings. The more markings, the more processing is generally needed to be done to make the leather aesthetically "pleasing" To the point where leather is lacking any epidermis and is stamped with an artificial grain an urethane coated as a split-hide (inbetween but closer in quality to split-hide is a "corrected-top grain" where the top layer; the epidermis, is shaved,sanded, etc to minimise markings).

Split-hides generally have a servicable life of approx 5yrs if used with any regularity. Bi-cast is the same or less in lifespan generally- they huge brands etc that required the leather to be split and shaved and then graded down to bi-cast processing are weak areas where the leather frequently splits through- and because the leather doesnt have cohesive strength with the lack of epidermal tissue it simply keeps on tearing until it hits a seam- we have seen hundreds and hundreds of Bi-cast pieces do this.

So...in short...Bi-cast is awful stuff that is frequently misrepresented as to what it is, and it does not have a long service life at all- but because it "looks" like the expensive pull-up type leathers it is often still sold for quite a bit...

Dont Buy it

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11years as a Leather Restorer with http://www.advleather.com and witness to hundress of failed Bi-casts and devastated people who thought they bought durable leather.

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post May 20 2010, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ May 20 2010, 06:04 AM)
The Tomaz stuff is bicast leather. This entry from Yahoo Answers answers it best:

Judy B gives a good description of how the product is made; but in several countries, and the number is growing, it is illegal to sell bicast as Leather- it must be sold as a synthetic. In some cases the substrate "leather" is even made from a fibrous mat of leather fibre from a deeply split leather compressed until smooth, and the top synthetic layer has the grain and color in it- I have seen it delaminate in sheets; leaving a colored grained film in one hand and grey/black smooth "leather" underneath.

The epidermal layer is where all the strength is- thats why the most expensive leather pieces are normally ones where the epidermis is intact because they were high quality hides with little or no markings. The more markings, the more processing is generally needed to be done to make the leather aesthetically "pleasing" To the point where leather is lacking any epidermis and is stamped with an artificial grain an urethane coated as a split-hide (inbetween but closer in quality to split-hide is a "corrected-top grain" where the top layer; the epidermis, is shaved,sanded, etc to minimise markings).

Split-hides generally have a servicable life of approx 5yrs if used with any regularity. Bi-cast is the same or less in lifespan generally- they huge brands etc that required the leather to be split and shaved and then graded down to bi-cast processing are weak areas where the leather frequently splits through- and because the leather doesnt have cohesive strength with the lack of epidermal tissue it simply keeps on tearing until it hits a seam- we have seen hundreds and hundreds of Bi-cast pieces do this.

So...in short...Bi-cast is awful stuff that is frequently misrepresented as to what it is, and it does not have a long service life at all- but because it "looks" like the expensive pull-up type leathers it is often still sold for quite a bit...

Dont Buy it

Source(s):
11years as a Leather Restorer with http://www.advleather.com and witness to hundress of failed Bi-casts and devastated people who thought they bought durable leather.

doh.gif
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can you recommend me other brand that have similar design like the tomaz platinum shoes?
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post May 21 2010, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(fixgd @ May 20 2010, 07:43 PM)
can you recommend me other brand that have similar design like the tomaz platinum shoes?
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Hmm what's your budget? For RM119.90 you can get Goodyear-welted, corrected grain Oxford brogues at Kulitkraf. OLG1010 I think. I posted this earlier but BOHICA -

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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ May 21 2010, 06:49 AM)
Hmm what's your budget? For RM119.90 you can get Goodyear-welted, corrected grain Oxford brogues at Kulitkraf. OLG1010 I think. I posted this earlier but BOHICA -

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hmm hits is nice. but for the same price, can we get a pair that look more elegant @ more sleek?
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post May 21 2010, 08:06 AM

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This is classic British elegance. Military specs so this model is popular around MINDEF. wink.gif
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post May 21 2010, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ May 21 2010, 08:06 AM)
This is classic British elegance. Military specs so this model is popular around MINDEF. wink.gif
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and where is this kulit kraf exactly?
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post May 21 2010, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(fixgd @ May 21 2010, 08:12 AM)
and where is this kulit kraf exactly?
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www.kulitkraf.com
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post May 21 2010, 10:49 AM

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Their address is:

Kulitkraf Sdn. Bhd.,
No. 5, Jalan 19/1,
46300 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia

Tel: 603 - 7957 4633
Fax: 603 - 7957 7480

Around section 14 PJ behind the Toyota place, same row.
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post May 21 2010, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ May 21 2010, 10:49 AM)
Their address is:

Kulitkraf Sdn. Bhd.,
No. 5, Jalan 19/1,
46300 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia

Tel: 603 - 7957 4633
Fax: 603 - 7957 7480

Around section 14 PJ behind the Toyota place, same row.
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