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post Sep 22 2009, 03:09 PM, updated 17y ago

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~The Home Of Liverpool Supporters~


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Liverpool Football Club

Founded: 1892

Founded by: John Houlding

Nickname: The Reds

Ground : Anfield

Chairman:
Tom Hicks (co-chairman)
George Gillett (co-chairman)

Manager :
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Rafael Benítez

Assistant Manager:
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Sammy Lee

Captain:
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Steven Gerrard

Vice Captain:
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Jamie Carragher
League Champions -----> 18
1900-01 ; 1905-06 ; 1921-22 ; 1922-23 ; 1946-47 ; 1963-64 ; 1965-66
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1979-80 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83
1983-84 ; 1985-86 ; 1987-88 ; 1989-90

Division Two Winners -----> 4
1893-94 ; 1895-96 ; 1904-05 ; 1961-62

Lancashire League Winners -----> 1
1892-93

Football Association Challenge Cup Winners -----> 7
1964-65 ; 1973-74 ; 1985-86 ; 1988-89 ; 1991-92
2000-01 ; 2005-06

League Cup Winners -----> 7
1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83 ; 1983-84 ; 1994-95
2000-01 ; 2002-03

Football Association Charity Shield Winners -----> 15
1964* ; 1965* ; 1966 ; 1974 ; 1976 ; 1977* ; 1979 ; 1980 ; 1982
1986* ; 1988 ; 1989 ; 1990* ; 2001 ; 2006 ( * shared)

European Cup Winners -----> 5
1976-77 ; 1977-78 ; 1980-81 ; 1983-84 ; 2004-05

UEFA Cup Winners -----> 3
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 2000-01

European Super Cup Winners -----> 3
1977 ; 2001 ; 2005

Super Cup Winners -----> 1
1985-86

Carlsberg Trophy -----> 3
1997-98 ; 1998-99 ; 1999-2000

Reserves Division One Winners -----> 16
1956-57 ; 1968-69 ; 1969-70 ; 1970-71 ; 1972-73 ; 1973-74 ; 1974-75
1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1983-84 ; 1984-85
1989-90 ; 1999-2000

FA Youth Cup Winners -----> 3
1995-96 ; 2005-06 ; 2006-07

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Walk on through the wind,
Walk on through the rain,
Tho' your dreams be tossed and blown.
Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone,
You'll never, ever walk alone.

Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone,
You'll never, ever walk alone.

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post Sep 22 2009, 03:10 PM

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The History


1959 - Shankly appointed manager

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December 1st 1959 is a date that will forever be etched in the annals of Anfield history. For it was on this day that Liverpool Football Club announced Huddersfield Town boss Bill Shankly would be their new manager in succession to Phil Taylor.


On his appointment he released 24 players and began to reshape the team.Promotion to the First Division was achieved in 1961–62, and the club won the League for the first time in 17 years in 1963–64. Another League title followed in 1965–66, after the club had won their first FA Cup the previous season. The club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1972–73 and the FA Cup again a year later; after this, Shankly retired and was replaced by his assistant Bob Paisley.Paisley was even more successful than Shankly and the club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1975–76, his second season as manager. The following season they retained the League title, won the European Cup for the first time, but lost in the FA Cup final, narrowly missing out on a treble. Liverpool retained the European Cup the next season, and the season after won the League again with 68 points—a domestic record, conceding only 16 goals in 42 league matches.During the nine seasons Paisley managed the club, Liverpool won 21 trophies, including three European Cups, a UEFA Cup, six league titles and three consecutive League Cups. The only domestic trophy to elude him was the FA Cup.

Paisley retired in 1983 and (as Shankly had done) handed the reins to his assistant, veteran coach Joe Fagan. The succession of coaches came from the Anfield Boot Room where the Liverpool staff discussed strategy and allegedly stored gin.[10] Liverpool won three trophies in Fagan's first season in charge: the League, League Cup and European Cup, becoming the first English side to win three trophies in a season.Liverpool reached the European Cup final again in 1985. The match was against Juventus at the Heysel Stadium. Before kick-off, disaster struck: Liverpool fans breached a fence which separated the two groups of supporters and charged the Juventus fans. The resulting weight of people caused a retaining wall to collapse, killing 39 fans, mostly Italians. The match was played regardless and Liverpool lost 1–0 to Juventus. English clubs were consequently banned from participating in European competition for five years; Liverpool received a ten-year ban, which was later reduced to six years. Fourteen of their fans received convictions for involuntary manslaughter.
The statue of former manager Bill Shankly, outside Anfield

Fagan resigned after the disaster and Kenny Dalglish was appointed as player-manager.During his reign, the club won another three League Championships and two FA Cups, including a League and Cup "Double" in 1985–86. Liverpool's success was overshadowed by the Hillsborough Disaster: in an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989, hundreds of Liverpool fans were crushed. 94 fans died that day; the 95th victim died in hospital from his injuries four days later, and the 96th died nearly four years later without regaining consciousness. After the Hillsborough tragedy there was a governmental review of stadium safety. Known as the Taylor Report, it paved the way for legislation which required top-division teams to have all-seater stadiums. The report ruled that the main reason for the disaster was overcrowding due to a failure of police control.Dalglish cited the Hillsborough Disaster and its repercussions as the reason for his resignation in 1991. He was replaced by former player Graeme Souness. Apart from winning the FA Cup in 1992, Souness achieved little success and was replaced by a former member of the "Boot Room", Roy Evans. Evans fared little better: a League Cup victory in 1995 was his only trophy. Gérard Houllier was appointed as co-manager in 1998–99, but was left in sole charge after Evans resigned in November 1998.

In his second season in charge Liverpool won a unique treble of the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup.In the 2001-02 season, during which Houllier underwent major heart surgery, Liverpool finished second behind Arsenal.The following seasons failed to live up to expectations and Houllier was replaced by Rafael Benítez. The club finished fifth in his first season in charge but won the UEFA Champions League by beating Milan 3–2 in a penalty shootout after the match finished 3–3.The following season Liverpool finished third with 82 points—their highest total since 1988. They won the FA Cup as they had the Champions League victory the previous season, by beating West Ham United in penalty shootout after the match finished at 3–3. In 2006–07, the club's search for investment came to an end when American businessmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks became the owners of Liverpool in a deal which valued the club and its outstanding debts at £218.9 million. That season, the club reached another Champions League final, but this time lost 2–1 to Milan
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post Sep 22 2009, 03:18 PM

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Liverpool Squad Season 08/09
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First team players

Goalkeepers:
(25) Pepe Reina
(1) Diego Cavalieri
(30) Charles Itandje
(40) David Martin
(41) Martin Hansen
(42) Peter Gulacsi
Defenders:
(38) Andrea Dossena
(22) Emiliano Insúa
(12) Fábio Aurélio
(5) Daniel Agger
(23) Jamie Carragher
(37) Martin Škrtel
(16)Sotirios Kyrgiakos
(2) Glen Johnson
(27) Philipp Degen
(32) Stephen Darby
(34) Martin Kelly
(51) Mikel San Jose
(52) Daniel Ayala
(36) Steve Irwin
Midfielders:
(11) Albert Riera
( 4)Alberto Aquilani
(15) Yossi Benayoun
(8) Steven Gerrard
(20) Javier Mascherano
(21) Lucas Leiva
(28) Damien Plessis
(26) Jay Spearing
(31) Nabil El Zhar
(35) Ryan Flynn

Strikers:

(9) Fernando Torres
(18) Dirk Kuyt
(24) David N'Gog
(19) Ryan Babel
(10) Andriy Voronin
(39) Nathan Eccleston
(50) Daniel Pacheco
(29) Krisztian Nemeth

Players Out On Loan:
Season 09/10 Fixtures

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LFC Top Scorer for Premier League


Fernando "El Nino" Torres          5
Black Horse Dirk Kuyt                  3
Yossi "The Messi" Benayoun      3
Steven "Captain Marvel" Gerrard  2
Glen "Super Wingback" Johnson          2
David N'gog                                    1

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The Quotes


Rafa Benitez

On Jose Mourinho,Pre-match press conference before Chelsea 2nd leg
"He is a good manager,yes, but he will lose tomorrow"

On finishing fifth
"I know being in the top four of the Premier League is very important, but you will never see any club honours list recording an historic fourth place in the Premier League."

On King Luis' "ghost goal"

"Luis said to me that as he turned away, he was right on the line, and he said the ball was over the line. And after the game my secretary Sheila, who was sitting right in line in the main stand, said to me that the ball had crossed the line. She is a very honest person and that was good enough for me. It was a goal."

On Robben's play acting
"Sorry i must hurry i am to the hospital to see Robben, maybe his neck is broke, maybe if Reina had of reacted like that when gallas touched him his neck would be broke also"

On Robbie "God" Fowler
"People can talk about having a lot of money to buy players but we've just signed a player with a passion and a heart for this club that no amount of money can buy."

"I think he is going to be a big asset for us. I know he is glad to have signed as he has taught me a new English phrase about being over the moon!"


In response to rumours over his future at anfield and a possible move to Real Madrid
I am very happy here for sure, my family is very happy here too, we are settled very well. my youngest daughter speaks alot of english now, more so even than spanish, and she speaks with scouse accent so i cannot understand her (beaming smile) but she also speaks alot of spanish, or sometimes even gets mixed up and speaks alot of spanglish

In response to Fergie's claim that Liverpool only play 5 minutes football in the victory

"If we can win a game in five minutes against a top team just think how much more terrible damage there would be if we played for the other 85 minutes."


On King Luis

"He's always a player from whom you can expect something different. If you're struggling in a game you can either do two things, send your centre back up front as a centre forward or use Luis Garcia between the lines."

On Liverpool Supporters
"Before, I said that they were maybe the best supporters in England.Now maybe they are the best supporters in Europe if not the World."

Humorous reply to the media on Fowler
Q:"If Robbie scores the winner against Chelsea, will he get a new contract?"

A:" No. No he won't .......He is cup tied."


On his poor English(1st season)
I'm not here to speak English.I'm here to win trophies.

'As I have said many times, I've come here to win trophies, not to learn English'.


His typical, repetitive answers

"this is our idea"

"....we will have more control over situations, and this will give us more possiblilities...."

We could have score more.

We only think of the next game.

"he has good game intelligence"


"...for sure

"we have more options"


On Gerrard's saga
"When people talk to me about Gerrard and say he wants to win trophies, I say, 'me too'. I want to win trophies, I am not here to learn English, I am here for winning trophies."

"I am not in favour of selling him and we are building a great team around him because we want him to be the skipper who wins the most titles in Liverpool's history."

"We are preparing a special weightlifting plan for Gerrard's shoulders because we want him to lift a lot of trophies for Liverpool in the next few years.

Pre-Chelsea press conference
Journo: Are you wearing your lucky jacket?

Rafa: No, it's normal. I have confidence in my team, not my jacket!


Post-Chelsea press conference
Journo: Were you confident when you saw Chelsea's team sheet?

Rafa: I was confident when I saw my own team sheet!


On rivalry with the Mancs:
I understand it. It’s similar to the rivalry with Everton but this time it’s about two of the top sides and it’s very important we win this game.


On the linesman of the Bolton game
"It's the first time I've seen a linesman who wants to be a star"

On paying 7m for Pennant

"I do not know many right wingers in this country who are better than Pennant playing in the Premier. Who else, (Shaun) Wright-Phillips at £21 million?

On the journalists

"After this they started changing words and at the end of the day you are in jail!

On catching Chelsea in the league table

"If you start counting your chickens then, at the end, you will have problems."

On the speculation about Henry before the match against Arsenal
"I even heard rumours this week that Henry was supposedly coming to Liverpool. All I can say is that he is coming tomorrow but will be going back to London after the game. He might come here on Tuesday as well!"

On being referred to as a tactical genius
“You cannot be a genius if you do not have good players. You can have the best tactics, but if I put all you journalists on the pitch, I’m sure we will lose.“

On Carra
"He reminds me of a hunting dog, when I want something specific done in defence he is very willing to learn. As a defender he is someone you do not want to play against, to have marking you."

On getting to grips with the Language
"I talk to carra, if you can understand him you can understand anyone."

On Anfield
"This is Anfield, they say you'll never walk alone... it's true!"

On cricket
"A lot of people say it is a fantastic game because nobody knows the rules, I say to the wife i am going to play a game and i wont be back for 5 or 10 days"

When asked about the new owners watching the game against PSV.
Reporter to Rafa: The new owners must have been really impressed with this performance/

Rafa: The players were impressive. The new owners were just watching the game.


On Crouch

"I was pleased also with Peter Crouch. We have been talking to him, before and after his nose operation, to show more confidence with his heading.

"Now it seems to have worked. Lets say that if he has a few games without scoring again, maybe we should arrange to break his nose again."


On Rotation Policy

"You know me, I like to rotate the team 99 times if I can,"

"We may be in a very good rugby town here in Toulouse. But this isn't rugby - I cannot use 15 players.

"Sadly, I've been unable to persuade Fifa, Uefa, and the Premier League to allow me to use 12 players in every game."


On Champion League group qualifying
Q : Which two teams will qualify from this group?
Rafa : This question provides me with an opportunity to use an expression I learnt the other day. I don't have a crystal ball. I cannot predict the future.


On spending for transfers

"But we have a saying in Spain that you never sell the house to buy a window. You don't spend more money than you have."

"It's easier if you've got the money to go into the transfer market. Imagine if you want to buy a jacket, if you have £1000 you can buy a good jacket, but if you have £10,000 you can buy the best"


On Mourinho
""We were good friends until we started winning, then he started changing his mind.

"It's the same with the managers of the top sides. He has good relationships with managers of teams he beats."

"He fights with the managers of the top sides. He has already started it with us, yesterday!"


Mourinho claimed that Liverpool will spend the first leg attempting to get Didier Dropba booked, with the big striker set to miss the second game if he is carded by referee Markus Merk.

"Maybe Mourinho is thinking about this because he was doing exactly the same thing two years ago over Xabi Alonso,"
When Mourinho claimed that referee missed out a penalty
"I haven't seen the replay but if he says it was a penalty, sure it was a penalty."

After Mourinho claimed that Liverpool is under pressure

"He said he does not talk about other teams, maybe he forgot this time.

In the post-match press conference when Liverpool manager Benitez was informed that Jose Mourinho had responded to Steven Gerrard's criticism of Chelsea by painting a picture of an angelic, or at least "naive", team.
Rafa:"Then I am Little Red Riding Hood,"

After Grant took over
"The only difference I see between Mourinho and Grant is in their press conferences!

On the Supporters
"At Stamford Bridge, we won in the stands, that was clear. The other supporters were with their flags, but our supporters were with their hearts. We don't need to give flags. It's easy for us."

After the match against Everton
"its hard playing against the SMALLER clubs"

On Chelsea
Q:How big a loss is Ricardo Carvalho to Chelsea?

A:If he cannot play – and remember they said the same last time – they have enough quality to replace him. I don't think he's any more important than John Terry. Before, when they lost Terry, they were saying they'd lost the best centre-back in the world. Now, Carvalho is the best centre-back in the world.


On King Kenny during the Kenny week
"Kenny Dalglish would be my first choice for Liverpool's best ever player because he was a great player with a lot of qualities."

On Torres

He can do it because he's a player with pace. This ability when you have pace is an issue. I have ability but I don't have pace so I can't beat anyone! But Torres can do it"

Rafa's jokes

On his beard
"its just because during the summer I lost my razor!"

Interviewer gets the joke but doesn't find it all that funny so he goes smiling:

"so you haven't found it since??"

"no i have found but now its broken!"


On Inter Milan

Q: What do you feel are the differences between AC Milan - a side you have faced twice in the final of this competition - and Inter?

Rafa: The difference between AC Milan and Inter is in the shirt.


On his players
"My players travel more than Willy Fogg," Benitez said to quizzical looks.
"Willy Fogg?
Around the World in 80 Days?"
"Phileas Fogg, you mean."
"Oh, yes, Phileas Fogg, sorry."

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On the birth of Xabi's son:
"I was preparing a new contract for his son,"

On the owner

Interviewer :Everyone is saying George Gillet is coming to watch this game tonight, does that make any difference to you or are you just focussed on that 90 minutes tomorrow?

Rafa :I think that he is not available for tomorrow so, he is not a big difference for me in my team selection.


When asked if the American owners of Liverpool will be analysing the game, he said: "
I don't know if they have a TV."

After PSV game
Irish interviewer: " Good night Rafa?" referring to the result.

Rafa: "Goodnight" with a broad smile and pretends to finish the chat


On his reaction after the goal

Q:One thing that surprised me was that after Kuyt scored and leveled the match, you didn’t jump out of your seat. Everyone else around you jumped right off their seats to celebrate but all you did was stand up and walk near the sideline to shout some instructions. Who were you talking to?

A:Yes, I was speaking to Sami Hyypia because we were having some problems adjusting at the back and I was trying to correct those mistakes. I believe that my job is not to jump around but to try and analyze things and find solutions to any problems we might be having.
Before Champion League clash with Arsenal
"I won't settle for any less (than victory). I have always had that mentality. Even as a child, I always hated losing at anything, chess or whatever.
"It is the same now, even at home. Just ask my wife. She says I never let the children win at anything. OK, sometimes I go easy on the younger one, but not the other. She is old enough and only wins on merit.


After 0-2 victory over Fulham

"We have a problem with Sami. He has a knock in the head. He was dizzy so I asked him if he'd seen the third goal! He just looked at me (with a confused look).

On Gerrard twisted his neck during training
The other day, he wanted to play but he was only able to look to the right, so I told him he could play as a left winger! We'll see if he can turn his head round and look the other way now.

"We will talk together, with the doctor. The player will say he wants to play, but there's an easy way of finding out whether he's fit. I will come up and tap him on the left shoulder and if he turns to face me without any pain, we will know he can play."


On Riise

"Fabio will be out for three weeks, so Riise knows he has to be ready and give everything for us. The best solution would be for him to score at Stamford Bridge... in the right goal.

On the late comebacks
“If it continues like this I will have to seek a neurologist — I don’t like these late comebacks.

"The last-minute goal is bad for the heart, but a great way to win. Do I believe in fate? I believe in hard work. In Spain we say 'luck is in love with people who work hard'. We work hard, so hopefully we'll have more luck."

On defending Crouch in the game
It's about beating him in the air, so we will use Mascherano against him! laugh.gif

On Ferguson
Journalist: Some comments were made by Alex Ferguson about Robbie Keane and the price you paid for him - were they ill-timed?
Rafa: I think he was surprised about the price because he was cheap. They paid around £30m for Berbatov, Rooney or Ferdinand - or even £35m for Tevez. That is maybe where the surprise came from.


"Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

He is the only manager in the league that cannot be punished for these things.

"All managers need to know is that only Mr Ferguson can talk about the fixtures, can talk about referees and nothing happens.

“I try not to talk too much, but all I can do when I speak is to defend my own team."

He has been playing these kind of mind games for many years. Nobody has ever said anything against him or stood up to him. It seems like he has a licence to do these sort of things.



Press conference ahead of the Newcastle match

(conversation moves on to the previous midweek Champions League Semi-Finals)

Reporter: Obviously in the middle of the week there were the Champions League Semi-Finals...did you watch those games...

Rafa: Yes I was watching the games but I will not say anything...

Reporter: Was it difficult for you to watch them...

Rafa: No, it was easy. I was in front of the telly (makes gesture of wide-screen tv) it was a big telly! It was easy!!


On Hyypia


I think Liverpool are losing a legend.For years he has been so good. He has scored important goals and has been very, very good in defence. Clearly we are losing an important player.

Before the match against manu at Anfield after 4 successive defeats.

Journalist: If you win on Sunday, everything that has been said and written recently will almost be forgotten. Is that something you have to get used to in modern football?

Yes, it is clear every week that everything changes. It is something you have to understand. With the internet, people need to write things every day, they need to sell newspapers every day, but they don't have too much news, so they have to say a lot of things. It is part of the game and you have to adapt to it.


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Sammy Lee
On Alex Ferguson and Sam Allardyce attacks on Rafa
"This is not Britain's Got Talent; you don't win anything for being popular, but our manager is not arrogant. He is astute, learned, educated and his attention to detail is fantastic. We are all a bit sensitive to criticism but he knows what he is doing, why he is doing it and who he is gesticulating at!"

Steven Gerrard

We are Liverpool Football Club and the expectations are so high.

Fernando Torres

I feel flattered at being nominated for the FIFA World Player. It is a proud moment for me, and an incentive to keep on working hard.I want to win trophies with Liverpool.

19th June 2009
For me the biggest privilege in Europe is the red shirt of Liverpool.

When asked about the departure of Ronaldo to Real Madrid.

We won't win the title because Manchester United have become weaker but because we have become better. To look at it like that is a loser's mentality and that is not the way of Liverpool Football Club.


Xabi Alonso


On his transfer saga
[The fans] couldn't have done more to show me how they felt... If I went out for lunch or a coffee, there was always someone who would come over and say, 'We'd love you to stay'. I'm just glad that, in the end, nothing came of it [the transfer] because it wasn't something I ever asked for."


Sami Hyypia


"I think it will only be after I've finally left that I'll be able to sit back and realise what we've done in my ten years. It's hard to take in now. It is nice to be remembered here."

"I'd like to come back to Liverpool one day as a coach, and it was great to hear the manager would like me to return,"

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REDS AROUND THE WORLD: MALAYSIA
Jonno Lim, Malaysia 13 January 2009

Meet 32-year-old events manager Jonno Lim, who helps run an independent supporters’ club and gets up at the crack of dawn to catch the Reds in action with hundreds of other fans in a crowded Malaysian bar.
Like most things, my association with the Malaysian independent supporters' club started with a few beers. After meeting on the fans' forum Red and White Kop (RAWK), we decided that as there were a fair number of us Reds in the same corner of the world, the least we could do was watch a game together in a bar.

Liverpool ran home 3-0 winners over Everton at Goodison Park that day in August 2003, with Michael Owen scoring a brace and Harry Kewell getting the third goal just before the final whistle.

Having supported the club from afar for so long, it felt very special to be enjoying a Liverpool victory with a few like-minded people. I had watched the Reds with friends before, but nothing like this. Even the owner of the Boardwalk on the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur was a Reds fanatic, so it became known as the closest thing any Malaysian Red could get to the special Anfield atmosphere.

There are so many Liverpool fans in this part of the world, and they all have their own story to tell. Some adopt the Reds because of their history, others simply get drawn in by the miracle of Istanbul in 2005 or the breathtaking 'Gerrard Final' of 2006.


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The only reason I can offer for following the Reds is probably quite similar to most people's - all of my family are massive Liverpool fans. It goes way back to the seventies and beyond, so it was a no-brainer for me to be the same as them.

My earliest memory is of Michael Thomas and Ian Rush securing the FA Cup for Liverpool with great goals against Sunderland at Wembley in 1992. I can also vividly remember Neil 'Razor' Ruddock holding his head after scoring a late equaliser in the dramatic 3-3 draw with Manchester United in January 1994.

Nigel Clough scored twice that day, but the look on Ruddock's face will remain with me forever - the ball hit him on the top of his head before going in the net and he seemed in quite a lot of pain while celebrating his decisive goal at Anfield. I couldn't stop laughing.

As time went by, my Liverpool obsession grew. We experienced many joyous Saturday and Sunday nights at the Boardwalk over the years and celebrated many great Liverpool victories there. But our friend, Bala, soon told us he had to sell his bar and we were left with nowhere to watch our beloved Reds during the early hours of the morning over here in Malaysia.

And when the new owner of the Boardwalk told us they would not be opening for the 2007 Champions League final clash with AC Milan due to the fact it would be kicking off at 3.30am over here, we knew that we had to act quickly to find a new venue.

After a long and frustrating search, we finally found a small pub that would open for the match. We got in touch with our friends and fellow supporters to join us for the big game, as we knew that whenever Liverpool was involved in a big European game, it was guaranteed to be something special.


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We only really expected about 50 people to turn up at the most, but the bar ended up being crammed full with about 200 fans, all screaming at the screen, willing on the Reds. We were all disappointed that Rafa's men did not win that night in Athens, but a few of us knew right then that not only did we need a bigger venue, but also a proper fan club to bring all of these Liverpool supporters together.

We called our new supporters' club 'MyRAWK', as most of us had met through RAWK, while the ‘My’ stands for Malaysia and also gives us a sense that a certain part of LFC can belong to us individually.

Things were tough at the beginning, but settling on the M Bar as our exclusive home for watching all the games helped us a lot. The owner agreed to open up at all the unsociable hours involved in supporting a club many miles away and laid on a host of generous drinks offers.

What started as a small MyRAWK blog soon turned into a full website, and before long we had Liverpool fans joining us from all over for our match-viewing parties. From local lawyers to homesick expats, tourists to ex players (Ian Rush once even joined us - that was a very special day), the M Bar is now full of fervent fans week in, week out. I usually take up the microphone at each event and am always proud to be the official master of ceremonies.

We even have our futsal team and are also in the process of setting up a full 11-a side side. Our interim team recently won our first trophy, the Christmas Cup and one day we hope to have a proper team which takes part in the local social league.

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But due to the exchange rate and distance, not many of us have been lucky enough to get over to Anfield. I am currently saving up to make the pilgrimage one day next season with a few other fans. I'm sure that once we get up close to Liverpool's hallowed home, there will be many of us who will be close to tears, as this would be nothing short of our visiting our very own Mecca.

One of our newer members, Phil, who now lives in Liverpool, always talks about how unbelievable it is that a bunch of guys who have never seen the Reds play up close can wake up in the middle of the night to support a team who are playing nearly 7,000 miles away, only to go back to bed and rise for work less than two hours later.

But none of us at MyRAWK would have it any other way. Witnessing another Liverpool victory make all the long, sleepy days in the office after a match worth it - and believe you me, there have been a lot of those in recent years.

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Diego Cavalieri claims Liverpool are desperate to up their game in the cup competitions this season - starting with a victory over Leeds United tonight which the Brazilian would dedicate to his late father.


The Reds were eliminated in the fourth round of both domestic knockouts in 2008-09 - meaning Pepe Reina's understudy got to play just four games throughout the term.

Cavalieri is now hoping to make a fifth Liverpool appearance at Elland Road, where a win would be devoted to a supportive dad who died last month.

He told Liverpoolfc.tv: "For me, it was really bad news. My father started with me in football and gave me a lot of support. But I need to work hard, keep my focus and play.

"Before, every game was for him - and now that continues. I think a victory will be very important for Liverpool and for him."

Liverpool have not won a major trophy since the 2006 FA Cup - a fact Cavalieri admits he and his teammates are desperate to change.

"All the competitions are important," he said "When you don't win trophies it's difficult. The fans want trophies and I think we need to win some this year - that is important for the club and the supporters.

"It's an important competition for me too because whenever you play you have to do well and show your quality.

"The Carling Cup was frustrating last season, losing to Tottenham when we'd been winning in the league. For me, I wanted to win and continue in the cup. We lost too early.

"This game is very dangerous but if we work hard, work together and have intensity, we can win.

"With Liverpool, whatever game it is, you need to win - there is pressure to win."

Leeds are currently top of League One and are one of just four teams still unbeaten in the Football League.

Cavalieri has done his homework on the West Yorkshire outfit and knows the Reds will be up against it if they are to continue on the road to Wembley.

"They are a team that plays with intensity," said the 26-year-old. "They like to play a long ball and they are strong - but these things are normal in England.

"I know about their record this season. It makes it difficult for us because when a team is winning they play with confidence. This is an important factor on this game.

"The fans are important but they are outside of the pitch. It's good for Leeds but the fans are not on the pitch so they are not a problem for us.

"I played in Wembley 10 years ago with the national U17s team, but that was the old Wembley. Now it's new and it would be important to play there, but all we can think about now is Leeds."

Meanwhile, Cavalieri revealed why he is a different goalkeeper than the one who arrived from South America more than a year ago.

"I think I have more confidence now and am more adapted," he said. "It was difficult for me when I arrived because in Brazil they play differently.

"The goalkeeper doesn't need to stay high and doesn't need to play with his feet all the time. The game is not as intense and here in England the pitches are always wet - that makes it difficult for goalkeepers.

"For me, (goalkeeping coach) Xavi Valero is very important. He talks with me all the time, shows me videos of other teams, shows me how to play in England and talks with me all the time.

"When I came here he told me that when the team plays high, I have to play high, and that was new for me. All the time he shouted at me, 'Diego, go high, go high.'

"All this is very important to me. When you don't play too much you have to work hard, and Xavi works hard with me.

"He's improved me physically, mentally and with the small details."

Being number two to one of the world's greatest goalkeepers requires a lot of patience - but Cavalieri is not one to go banging on the manager's door.

"It's good because you learn a lot," he said. "I had this situation at Palmeries in Brazil. I had a challenge with Marcos, who was a fantastic goalkeeper and played in the 2002 World Cup.

"They don't make mistakes, so it's difficult for me to play. But when you train together you learn a lot."
Let's start posting...

My prediction for lineup


Diego
Degen Agger Krygiakos Aurelio
Babel Lucas Plessis Riera
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Dont think Rafa will rest all stars..Think Kuyt/Gerrard gonna start... smile.gif
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huhuhu new thread
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QUOTE(zamarano @ Sep 22 2009, 03:31 PM)
huhuhu new thread
hope we can beat the whites tonite
sols , tonite game 2.40am astro supersports (811)
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Edited.

Tonight game is not going to be an easy one.Leeds are on their top form...Still unbeaten..Hope Voronin and co can win this and break into 1st team rclxm9.gif
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wow!! i love the quotes section, esp on rafa, good job sols!
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Sep 22 2009, 04:37 PM)
wow!! i love the quotes section, esp on rafa, good job sols!
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tonite will be a game against leeds? FA cup?
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League Cup Match. Excited..long ago we beat them 4-0, but this is type of game we should be winning..and finding strength..
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finally a new thread... so long already...
time for babel to show sth tonite...
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I guess Babel and Kyrgiakos maybe starting line up.And maybe voronin too. smile.gif

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tonite will be a game against leeds? FA cup?
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Don't forget Spearing and Degen. Aurelio maybe will play too to find match fitness.
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Ngog to start up front!
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QUOTE(Mysterious Dr X @ Sep 22 2009, 09:55 PM)
Ngog to start up front!
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where can i sell my liverpool jersey? Bought extra from london.
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Lol...I already put there since March/April  laugh.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 22 2009, 05:09 PM)
Lol...I already put there since March/April  laugh.gif  tongue.gif
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really ahh..hahaha... i usually missed the first page. blush.gif
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Voronin start better than Ngog start. hmm.gif smile.gif

Omg! Spearing and Mascherano starting Liverpool's midfielder.

We missed our skipper.. cry.gif

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seroiusly poor perfomance from liverpool on 1st half
dossena was shite..the left flank always bocor..

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QUOTE(loquenemy @ Sep 23 2009, 03:34 AM)
seroiusly poor perfomance from liverpool on 1st half
dossena was shite..the left flank always bocor..
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Agreed. Dossena was nonsense. Same as Ngog. I really was expecting Ngog to fare much better with his first balls, and passing, but no, he didn't do it well at all. Unconvincing performance right there, and we REALLY need to work on defending set pieces. I mean, really.
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Aurelio well done in 1st half.Dossena can't play good performance.Riera header should score.2nd half 1-0 Riera.I guess. smile.gif
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Alright, perfect. 1-0 biggrin.gif

4th round berth secured smile.gif

I have to say, I was deeply impressed by Degen's performance. He hasn't had much football for the past year or so, but really, his overlapping runs were breathtaking. Babel was alright in the second half, but I don't think he did enough to prove the critics wrong. But really, a good performance by him too. smile.gif
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I hardly call this good performance. if compare offense and defense of both team, I think I can safely call it "the better team lost today"
It's good if you can be contend with the result, but if we're to play like this every round of the competition, we would have to bribe lady luck for the cup.
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QUOTE(bomberkenny @ Sep 23 2009, 04:45 AM)
I hardly call this good performance. if compare offense and defense of both team, I think I can safely call it "the better team lost today"
It's good if you can be contend with the result, but if we're to play like this every round of the competition, we would have to bribe lady luck for the cup.
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That is true, but I don't think Leeds troubled us much in the second half. Tired looking performance by Liverpool, mainly in the first half. I'm sure we'll do better in the next round, don't worry. smile.gif
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aurelio, agger, degen is back !
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QUOTE(gerrardling @ Sep 23 2009, 07:48 AM)
aurelio, agger, degen is back !
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Agger? He did not start against Leeds....

The Reds XI in full is: Cavalieri, Degen, Carragher, Kyrgiakos, Dossena, Aurelio, Spearing, Mascherano, Riera, Babel, Ngog. Subs: Reina, Gerrard, Torres, Skrtel, Voronin, Plessis, Johnson.

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Leeds United 0 - 1 Liverpool
Leed had a disallowed goal!
Liverpool arse luck!
Poor 1st half performance!
Don't think the stupid American owner have enough money to bribe lady luck all the way for the cup!

How come Liverpool thread have no version number?
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 23 2009, 09:57 AM)
Leeds United  0 - 1  Liverpool
Leed had a disallowed goal!
Liverpool arse luck!
Poor 1st half performance!
Don't think the stupid American owner have enough money to bribe lady luck all the way for the cup!

How come Liverpool thread have no version number?
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i love liverpool... but with a performance like that... aiyo... still inviting bunch of critisimn...

degen was impressive... we were lucky rafa didnt play lucas.. herhehe...
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babel was disappointing as usual, riera had bad ball control, sloppy midfield...

defending was really bad.

degen though was impressive.
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is it just me or mascherano have been poor this season?
maybe i'm being too harsh but i noticed that he always lose the ball last match
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riera was sloppy last night, babel wasn't so poor like he used to be.
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whats next in line? this weekend?
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QUOTE(bomberkenny @ Sep 23 2009, 04:45 AM)
I hardly call this good performance. if compare offense and defense of both team, I think I can safely call it "the better team lost today"
It's good if you can be contend with the result, but if we're to play like this every round of the competition, we would have to bribe lady luck for the cup.
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if we play like utter shite every week and still win 1-0, we'd still be champions and i'd settle for that. laugh.gif
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Last night game was poor...
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 23 2009, 12:59 PM)
Last night game was poor...
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I m fairly surprise that you are not in the Man City discussion. tongue.gif

Anyone have the highlights for this morning game?
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i m missing alonso badly..
aquillani when will recover leh..?
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QUOTE(melt @ Sep 23 2009, 01:41 PM)
I m fairly surprise that you are not in the Man City discussion.  tongue.gif
No point unless you're willing to concede that whatever them mancs say is the gospel truth. Apparently some do not grasp the concept of having a difference in opinion.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 23 2009, 02:03 PM)
No point unless you're willing to concede that whatever them mancs say is the gospel truth. Apparently some do not grasp the concept of having a difference in opinion.
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QUOTE(loquenemy @ Sep 23 2009, 11:30 AM)
is it just me or mascherano have been poor this season?
maybe i'm being too harsh but i noticed that he always lose the ball last match
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Not this season, nah. Just yesterday's game. He didn't fare to well, but hey, can't really blame him. He was playing alongside Spearing, and I'm not sure if they've both played together before.

As for Riera, yea, a tired looking performance. Degen was the best player in Liverpool for me.
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QUOTE(melt @ Sep 23 2009, 01:41 PM)
I m fairly surprise that you are not in the Man City discussion.  tongue.gif

Anyone have the highlights for this morning game?
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Anything you post there, be it with valid points or not, they gonna say you are just jealous of them...What's the point then? wink.gif


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Not this season, nah. Just yesterday's game. He didn't fare to well, but hey, can't really blame him. He was playing alongside Spearing, and I'm not sure if they've both played together before.

As for Riera, yea, a tired looking performance. Degen was the best player in Liverpool for me.
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Mascherano didn't shine as how he did last season.Common sense would be, Alonso departure will make him looks better since Lucas is never on par with him.But from what I see, Lucas and his performance seems to be on par.It's either mascherano is playing badly at the moment or Lucas is improving greatly.

I'd say it's both. tongue.gif

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lol spearing passing was like alonso ....but height -,-
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i hope rafa can polish spearing to be a great player... his pass was so sharp and fast... he just has to improve his accuracy... degen also shock me with his performance.. now we have another good fullback rclxms.gif for the last nite game, i think it was fun...
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hmmm..wonder if Sol Campbell will be a good defensive cover...a bit aged..but his reading and experience in the EPL might come handy...

just heard he left Notts County after 1 game!!!

but not sure if Rafa wants him or if he is willing to sit on bench...


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QUOTE(fk2222 @ Sep 23 2009, 08:53 PM)
lol spearing passing was like alonso ....but height -,-
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Spearing was good, but he just needs to work on his alertness. He gave away the ball pretty clumsily a couple of times, but otherwise, he was good. Switch passing and all. Again, Degen was the best player this morning. He's awesome. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Playboy21 @ Sep 23 2009, 11:47 PM)
Spearing was good, but he just needs to work on his alertness. He gave away the ball pretty clumsily a couple of times, but otherwise, he was good. Switch passing and all. Again, Degen was the best player this morning. He's awesome. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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You're rite..
Spearing is better than Lucas.
He dare to move forward and made some dangerous attack into opponent area.
Rafa should look for talented players in our academy as well as spearing.
Stevie n Owen was from academy aite?
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Rafa only trust spanish players..
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and lucas... hehe..

stop playing him.. he will never get anywhere farther than this...
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man, its been a while i watch a live game between Leeds and Liverpool at Elland road, brings back memories (the viduka memory comes in mind). We were really piss poor last night. Passes went astray, defence looks very shaky. It was a lucky masherano 'pass' that led to the goal, if not, leeds could hammer us big time.
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QUOTE(mrjeff @ Sep 24 2009, 02:29 AM)
and lucas... hehe..

stop playing him.. he will never get anywhere farther than this...
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I don't get it.. he has improved his performance dramatically, and offered a nearly flawless performance against West Ham the other day, and YET... this happens. Spearing is good, definitely, but is Lucas better? Any day. Come on, learn to support players, rather than just dissing them for no apparent reason. Babel's case is a little different as he has been given so much time, and yet, very little improvement is what he offered us. He played alright in the last two matches, and I really hope he can build on it and learn to play as a team. Anyway, no offense mate. smile.gif
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Lucas has always been the no.1 scapegoat.

No.2 is Rafa himself.

Did anyone blamed Gerrard or Carra after they played badly against Villa or Spurs? Nope. Everything is either Lucas or Rafa. Such fair play.
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Carra has been playing rather badly in recent games - he struggles to keep pace and ends up committing fouls (and giving away penalties!), he's getting worse in the air and, along with a mediocre Skrtle, presents free headers to opposing players - hence our poor record in defending set pieces..

If Rafa is brave enough, he should consider trying out a new pairing!
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Sep 24 2009, 10:32 AM)
Lucas has always been the no.1 scapegoat.

No.2 is Rafa himself.

Did anyone blamed Gerrard or Carra after they played badly against Villa or Spurs? Nope. Everything is either Lucas or Rafa. Such fair play.
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Haha..jz my 2 cents mates.

From what i see, it's very ironic to see that these players got criticised so badly by ppl who are either hvn't touched a football in their life or those below their standard.
My point is, be it a healthy critics rather than those condemning ones. It doesn't only reflects urself but it will offend others or give other ppl chances to poke on the team we love.

Another point from what i can get from reading your feedbacks, Liverpool is having a problem of playing players in positions that they were not meant to be.
yes, it is good to explore new possibilities, but when things can't go as planned, go back to what you do best. We often see Rafa playing players on the positions that they are not very familiar with.
Successful candidate, Kuyt, once a striker now a winger.
Unsuccessful candidates, a lot, Babel is one of them. I had high hopes for Babel actually but Rafa often play him on the left flank. Maybe the damages of not playing well on the left deters his confidence and spirit.

Anyway, just to post up my thoughts. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Sep 24 2009, 10:32 AM)
Lucas has always been the no.1 scapegoat.

No.2 is Rafa himself.

Did anyone blamed Gerrard or Carra after they played badly against Villa or Spurs? Nope. Everything is either Lucas or Rafa. Such fair play.
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the thing is, Carra and Gerrard are in our hearts already. They played their hearts out the season before and the seasons before before. laugh.gif
Lucas? We gave him alot of football time already. He's bound to get better! whistling.gif
Even a teen school player if he get the chance to play matches he will get better. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(cheez @ Sep 24 2009, 10:59 AM)
Haha..jz my 2 cents mates.

From what i see, it's very ironic to see that these players got criticised so badly by ppl who are either hvn't touched a football in their life or those below their standard.
I agree with most of your post with the exception of this statement. You don't need to be a great football player to rate one. Was Rafa ever that good as a player? What about Wenger? Ferguson? Ancelotti?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 24 2009, 11:11 AM)
I agree with most of your post with the exception of this statement. You don't need to be a great football player to rate one. Was Rafa ever that good as a player? What about Wenger? Ferguson? Ancelotti?
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I agree with most of your post with the exception of this statement. You don't need to be a great football player to rate one. Was Rafa ever that good as a player? What about Wenger? Ferguson? Ancelotti?
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Sep 24 2009, 11:03 AM)
the thing is, Carra and Gerrard are in our hearts already. They played their hearts out the season before and the seasons before before.  laugh.gif
Lucas? We gave him alot of football time already. He's bound to get better!  whistling.gif
Even a teen school player if he get the chance to play matches he will get better. whistling.gif
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But the thing is, all heart may not hide the players deficiency any longer. Look at Carra, how much longer do you think that his heart & soul may cover for his lack of speed or deficiency in general?
Lucas? he'll always be a player that divides opinion. From what I see, he'll no better than a squad player unlike Babel, who, if his potential is fully explored,will be a world class player. But sadly, for one reasons or another, it seems the coaches cant get key to his enormous potential.
That said, but every team need a water carrier to complement a genius, our best hope is Lucas can be the water carrier tongue.gif

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 24 2009, 11:11 AM)
I agree with most of your post with the exception of this statement. You don't need to be a great football player to rate one. Was Rafa ever that good as a player? What about Wenger? Ferguson? Ancelotti?
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Rafa was good enough for RM B team biggrin.gif
Wenger is a double Phd, so no time to play footie tongue.gif
Ferguson was a decent player while Ancelotti excelled in Milan & Parma midfield.
I always have this mentality that great coach was not a great player. Look at the mess that Maradona created with arguably one of the most gifted team in the world
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Dijimi Traore won the Champions League. Bernard Diomede won the World Cup  smile.gif
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Am I only one who thinks that Lucas and Masch (Only seen first half though) did well against West Ham? Masch has been attempting some sideway Alonso-eque passes, although not as accurate as Alonso's but good enough for us. Lucas on the other hand kept things short, tidy and pops up with the occassional through pass. Also, both were active in taking turns to go forward and also applying pressure when necessary.

The poorer players that night were in fact, well... Carra and Stevie.
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Dijimi Traore won the Champions League. Bernard Diomede won the World Cup  smile.gif
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Just passing by; Ancelotti was actually a very good footballer

As a player, "Carletto," as he was nicknamed, appeared 26 times for Italy, and participated in the 1986 and 1990 FIFA World Cup, where he was teammates with former club mate and former Italy coach Roberto Donadoni, former Inter Milan coach Roberto Mancini and a young Paolo Maldini.

He started his club career in 1976 with Parma A.C.. In 1979, he transferred to AS Roma, as captain and midfielder, where he won the Italian championship (1983) and 4 times the Italian Cup. From 1987 until 1992 he played for A.C. Milan, and was part of the Milan squad that won consecutive European Cups in 1989 and 1990. During this time, Milan played with one of their finest teams ever assembled in that decade, with Maldini, Franco Baresi, Mauro Tassotti and Alessandro Costacurta in defence, Frank Rijkaard, Ruud Gullit and Roberto Donadoni in midfield and Marco van Basten in attack. His finest moment with Milan was when he received a pass from Ruud Gullit, dribbled around two Madrid players, and netted a powerful long-range shot during the Rossoneri's 5-0 thrashing of Real Madrid in the 1989 European Cup semifinals. He went on to play all 90 minutes in Milan's 4-0 defeat of Steaua Bucharest in the final.

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Unlike them Ancelotti is one of the key performer in the team, even excel in other team like Parma. That cant be said with Traore & Diomede.
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Just passing by; Ancelotti was actually a very good footballer

As a player, "Carletto," as he was nicknamed, appeared 26 times for Italy, and participated in the 1986 and 1990 FIFA World Cup, where he was teammates with former club mate and former Italy coach Roberto Donadoni, former Inter Milan coach Roberto Mancini and a young Paolo Maldini.

He started his club career in 1976 with Parma A.C.. In 1979, he transferred to AS Roma, as captain and midfielder, where he won the Italian championship (1983) and 4 times the Italian Cup. From 1987 until 1992 he played for A.C. Milan, and was part of the Milan squad that won consecutive European Cups in 1989 and 1990. During this time, Milan played with one of their finest teams ever assembled in that decade, with Maldini, Franco Baresi, Mauro Tassotti and Alessandro Costacurta in defence, Frank Rijkaard, Ruud Gullit and Roberto Donadoni in midfield and Marco van Basten in attack. His finest moment with Milan was when he received a pass from Ruud Gullit, dribbled around two Madrid players, and netted a powerful long-range shot during the Rossoneri's 5-0 thrashing of Real Madrid in the 1989 European Cup semifinals. He went on to play all 90 minutes in Milan's 4-0 defeat of Steaua Bucharest in the final.

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Yeah ok fine, bad example but you're not getting my point. What was my point again? That not all good managers were good players. What was this in response to again? That just because someone isn't a pro footballer or a decent one at that, it doesn't mean they can't spot a good or bad one.
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Am I only one who thinks that Lucas and Masch (Only seen first half though) did well against West Ham? Masch has been attempting some sideway Alonso-eque passes, although not as accurate as Alonso's but good enough for us. Lucas on the other hand kept things short, tidy and pops up with the occassional through pass. Also, both were active in taking turns to go forward and also applying pressure when necessary.

The poorer players that night were in fact, well... Carra and Stevie.
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I definitely agree with you. I don't think Stevie G did that bad though, he was alright. Carra was fine too, apart from the few nerve wrecking mistakes that he made tongue.gif
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Yeah ok fine, bad example but you're not getting my point. What was my point again? That not all good managers were good players. What was this in response to again? That just because someone isn't a pro footballer or a decent one at that, it doesn't mean they can't spot a good or bad one.
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I agree with your point and I do understand it. One good example, Murinho never played football but now one of the most sought after managers. rclxms.gif

actually my point was, give healthy critics instead of condemning ones. A world without critics is a world in denial. biggrin.gif
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Aquilani still not training..maybe still not fit for chelsea match
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guys...

pls stop criticising Lucas or Babel or any other Lfc players...
both lucas n babel can play good football actually, but dun forget they are still young and got plenty of time to develop their skill n abilty, same goes to other players as well...
if rafa didn't give them chances to play, they will never improve then..
but i strongly hoping that rafa can fully utilised our academy players, becos they all are very talented n can follow stevie's footstep 1 day...
not to say spearing is better than lucas, but rafa should give both of them chances fairly.

well, Aquilani will come in in a few more weeks from now, hope he can do something to generate our midfield precisely. becos our midfield is the main problem now. if midfield are not fully covered, the defends will also suffer as what we can see now, n carra will be a deadman.
hmmm..
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guys...

pls stop criticising Lucas or Babel or any other Lfc players...
both lucas n babel can play good football actually, but dun forget they are still young and got plenty of time to develop their skill n abilty, same goes to other players as well...
if rafa didn't give them chances to play, they will never improve then..
but i strongly hoping that rafa can fully utilised our academy players, becos they all are very talented n can follow stevie's footstep 1 day...
not to say spearing is better than lucas, but rafa should give both of them chances fairly.

well, Aquilani will come in in a few more weeks from now, hope he can do something to generate our midfield precisely. becos our midfield is the main problem now. if midfield are not fully covered, the defends will also suffer as what we can see now, n carra will be a deadman.
hmmm..
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Erm and what are you basing your judgement on? Rafa has given them a chance, even Babel. Lucas has improved but I fail to see how Babel has. Enlighten me?
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Guys ... Liverpool will be entertaining Hull City this weekend.
What's the line-up prediction?

Masch will be back u think?


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guys, i dont have astro sad.gif

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try google ..... indonewyork
i usually watch most of the games there.

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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Sep 24 2009, 05:02 PM)
guys...

pls stop criticising Lucas or Babel or any other Lfc players...
both lucas n babel can play good football actually, but dun forget they are still young and got plenty of time to develop their skill n abilty, same goes to other players as well...
if rafa didn't give them chances to play, they will never improve then..
but i strongly hoping that rafa can fully utilised our academy players, becos they all are very talented n can follow stevie's footstep 1 day...
not to say spearing is better than lucas, but rafa should give both of them chances fairly.

well, Aquilani will come in in a few more weeks from now, hope he can do something to generate our midfield precisely. becos our midfield is the main problem now. if midfield are not fully covered, the defends will also suffer as what we can see now, n carra will be a deadman.
hmmm..
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well, Babel really deserved the stick his getting, i mean, Rafa has give him a few season to improved but till this day he still makes schoolboy mistakes. A for LUcas, he has improved a lot since his first season here, i can see he's getting on the weights to make himself more stronger in the midfield.
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QUOTE(rusty-hammer @ Sep 24 2009, 06:11 PM)
Guys ... Liverpool will be entertaining Hull City this weekend.
What's the line-up prediction?

Masch will be back u think?


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try google ..... indonewyork
i usually watch most of the games there.
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Reina
Glenny Skrtel Carra Insua
Masch
Kuyt Lucas Benny
Gerrard
Torres

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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Sep 24 2009, 05:02 PM)
guys...

pls stop criticising Lucas or Babel or any other Lfc players...
both lucas n babel can play good football actually, but dun forget they are still young and got plenty of time to develop their skill n abilty, same goes to other players as well...
if rafa didn't give them chances to play, they will never improve then..
but i strongly hoping that rafa can fully utilised our academy players, becos they all are very talented n can follow stevie's footstep 1 day...
not to say spearing is better than lucas, but rafa should give both of them chances fairly.

well, Aquilani will come in in a few more weeks from now, hope he can do something to generate our midfield precisely. becos our midfield is the main problem now. if midfield are not fully covered, the defends will also suffer as what we can see now, n carra will be a deadman.
hmmm..
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our midfield are weak ? apart from torres, most of the goals come from midfield, kuyt, gerrard, benayoun. our midfield is quite strong if rafa pull gerrard back to CM position. our defence is the weakest point now especially in defending against the set pieces
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Sep 24 2009, 10:04 PM)
Reina
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Kuyt-Masch(Lucas will come in 2nd hlaf) - Benny
Gerrard
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You want our team play with 10 person in 1st half? laugh.gif
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Reina
Johnson-Carra-Skrtel-Insua
Kuyt-Masch(Lucas will come in 2nd hlaf) - Benny
Gerrard
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sweat.gif who will get red card?
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BABEL! rclxms.gif
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Reina
Degen-Johnson-Carra-Aurelio
Kuyt-Masch-gerrad-Riera
Benny
Torres

maybe this line up is more promising i think...


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reina
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benny
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this one seem to be better... haha

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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Sep 25 2009, 12:18 AM)
Reina
Degen-Johnson-Carra-Aurelio
Kuyt-Masch-gerrad-Riera
Benny
Torres

maybe this line up is more promising i think...


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reina
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kuyt-gerrad-riera
benny
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this one seem to be better... haha
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how can johnson be at CB... this is much awful than carra-skrtel combo...
put kuyt oso better...

and to waste his ability to attack is the worst idea of all...
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 24 2009, 09:57 PM)

Reina
Glenny Skrtel Carra  Insua
Masch
Kuyt Lucas Benny
Gerrard
Torres

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Where is our Riera?Because benny scored hat-trick against burnley then he will be the replacement of Riera? brows.gif

I hope Insua still in the squad.He was really showed good performance when they played against west ham united.

But this weekend vs Hull City i prefer Lucas Leiva play FT.After the hull city match then it could be a tough one.CHELSEA VS LIVERPOOL ~ Stamford Bridge. shocking.gif Where is our Aquilani? shakehead.gif

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my probable lineup...assuming of cos Agger is fully fit as hes already been back in training...if not then have to make do with Carra again.

Reina
Johnson - Skrtel - Agger - Insua
Kuyt - Masch - Lucas - Benny
Gerrard
Torres


ideally tho, with what we have now and aquilani still not fully fit...i would like to see -

Reina
Johnson - Skrtel - Agger - Aurelio
Kuyt - Masch - Gerrard - Benny
Babel Torres


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haha, oops//

It should be Masch and Lucas to roam the midfield area.
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Babel!!

haha, oops//

It should be Masch and Lucas to roam the midfield area.
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Benitez facing struggle to keep pace as £20m transfer limit revealed

By Ian Herbert
Thursday September 24 2009
RAFAEL BENITEZ'S struggle to keep pace with the Premier League elite is revealed in documents which suggest Liverpool's net summer spending will be locked at £20m until 2014, a figure which will also include wage increases accruing from contract renewals.

The figures, which suggest the manager must continue to sell before he can buy, are contained in a prospectus published in March by investment banks Rothschild and Merrill Lynch to attract potential investors.

The prospectus, which provides a sense of how desperately Liverpool's owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett need new finance, reveals the Americans were considering increasing the average ticket price by 8pc to help ease the club's debt problems. They were also seeking to raise £100m from investors and loans as pressure built to refinance a debt of £290m.

Gillett and Hicks paid £50m four months later, in July, to get a year's extension to the debt facility they have used to purchase and run the club since their takeover in February 2007.

This season they have secured a new £20m-a-year sponsorship deal with Standard Chartered Bank, a major improvement on the previous £14.6m Carlsberg deal and hope to retain a role for Carlsberg, the club revealed yesterday.

Yet the underlying lack of finance for Benitez remains a problem. It might not be as dire a position for the club as suggested by the banner unveiled by Liverpool fans before the Carling Cup tie with Leeds at Elland Road on Tuesday -- "We are the new Leeds" it read -- but Benitez is clearly limited in his options in the transfer market.

The section of the Rothschild/Merrill Lynch document relating to "player transfer payments" states: "Management believes that the normalised long-run level of new net player capital expenditure is £20m." The accompanying data suggests "long-run" means the next five years. This figure "will grow together with increases in media broadcasting revenues," the bankers promise.

Though revenues from British broadcasters are expected to drop, overseas rights should grow before 2014. This summer, the £30m sale of Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid helped offset the outlay on Glen Johnson and Alberto Aquilani.

The need to generate cash to finance future purchases next summer may make it more difficult to resist selling Javier Mascherano.

The Argentinian, who was yesterday cleared by the FA over the incident in which he appeared to swing a forearm at Leeds' Jermaine Beckford at Elland Road on Tuesday night, has been strongly linked with a move to Barcelona. (© Independent News Service)

- Ian Herbert

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Reina
Glenny Skrtel Carra Insua
Benny Gerrard Masch Aurelio
Kuyt Torres

i like this lineup..
i still believe kuyt is good upfront..
given him the free role..
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I'd like to see this
Reina
Johnson Skrtel (Greek Guy)/Agger Insua
Lucas Gerrard
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Torres

Give Carra a rest.
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I'd like to see this
                    Reina
Johnson Skrtel (Greek Guy)/Agger Insua
            Lucas      Gerrard
Kuyt            Benayoun            Riera
                    Torres

Give Carra a rest.
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I agree that Carra needs a rest. Kyrgiakos (spelling?) is experienced and good in the air. He also seems to be able to influence others around him. If he can communicate effectively with the others, he could be another Gary MacAlister!

Gerrard, Johnson, Reina, Kuyt, Lucas, Skrtle and Torres will definitely play. The other 4 will be from : Carra, Kyrgiakos, Insua, Aurelio, Benny, Riera, Babel, depending on how Rafa thinks!

I'm hoping to see another win with at least a 3-goal margin!
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Tomorrow match 10pm, right? Ch? unsure.gif
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Hi. Am digressing from the talk on players and upcoming match .....

Anyone here who has the experience of buying from LFC online store using a Malaysian billing-address credit card but delivery address of which differs (am planning to use a UK address) ? Any problem ?

Thanks all in advance, cheers.

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can't wait to see Torres score again!
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guys... may i know where can get this candy jersey?

eBay dont have my size, got one but the seller refuse ship to malaysia cry.gif

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ask in the jerseys thread lor
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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=679377&sec=england&cc=4716

Yeung gets Premier League approval
The Premier League has approved the appointment of Carson Yeung as a director of Birmingham City as the Hong Kong businessman moves closer to a formal takeover of the club.


this would mean steve mcmanaman will also have a bigger say in birmingham tongue.gif
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as much as i like him as a player, i can't seem to not associate his 'in a suit' image = dodgy businessman laugh.gif

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guys... may i know where can get this candy jersey?

eBay dont have my size, got one but the seller refuse ship to malaysia  cry.gif

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padang besar thumbup.gif there's a shop full loads of liverpool stuff.
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Aquilani return date pencilled in
25 September 2009
Alberto Aquilani has been pencilled in to make his return against Sunderland on October 17th.

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haha, play against us no use ler... we led 4-1... giv them goal oso 4-2 oni...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Nemeth's goals for AEK Athens, love the 2nd one, brilliant finishing:
http://footylounge.com/films/liverpool-you..._70d718d94.html
http://footylounge.com/films/liverpool-you..._f037bc8e1.html

Is he on loan until January or something? Reckon when he's back, he'll give a tough competition to Ngog, who's doing pretty well himself. thumbup.gif
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Nemeth's goals for AEK Athens, love the 2nd one, brilliant finishing:
http://footylounge.com/films/liverpool-you..._70d718d94.html
http://footylounge.com/films/liverpool-you..._f037bc8e1.html

Is he on loan until January or something? Reckon when he's back, he'll give a tough competition to Ngog, who's doing pretty well himself. thumbup.gif
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i guess it has something to do with off-setting kyrgiakos' 2m fee since we got no money tongue.gif
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Nemeth is a quality, quality player.
At the moment liverpool's first team squad is probably a bit too strong for him to come into.
But this loan was a good move for him, it'll get him some first team football.
Maybe when he's back he can fill in for torres when he's injured, tired or what not.
I also want to see daniel pacheco step up smile.gif
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dalla valle!!! i cant wait to see dalla valle - nemeth - torres partnership
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haha not even like De Rossi lah !
cant wait to see his debut match !!
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umm yea, apart from tonight's hull match...
later on at 330am, there is the u-20 world cup with england vs uruguay...
should be able to see martin kelly playing.

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My prediction for tonight's match ...

---------------- Pepe ------------------
Johnson -- Carra --- Skrtel --- Insua
--------- Masch --- Lucas -------------
Kuyt --------- Gerrard ------ Benny
--------------- Torres ------------------

Aquilani is still not match fit ... so we might see Babel replacing Benny at 70th mns.

Score line prediction ... 3 - 0 (Torres, Gerrard & Kuyt)

Go go go Liverpool! YNWA!


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My prediction for tonight's match ...

---------------- Pepe ------------------
Johnson -- Carra --- Skrtel --- Insua
--------- Masch --- Lucas -------------
Kuyt --------- Gerrard ------ Benny
--------------- Torres ------------------

Aquilani is still not match fit ... so we might see Babel replacing Benny at 70th mns.

Score line prediction ... 3 - 0  (Torres, Gerrard & Kuyt)

Go go go Liverpool! YNWA!
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if our 1st 11 fail to get a single goal...then we start bashing our team after the match... rclxms.gif

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My prediction for tonight's match ...

---------------- Pepe ------------------
Johnson -- Carra --- Skrtel --- Insua
--------- Masch --- Lucas -------------
Kuyt --------- Gerrard ------ Benny
--------------- Torres ------------------

Aquilani is still not match fit ... so we might see Babel replacing Benny at 70th mns.

Score line prediction ... 3 - 0  (Torres, Gerrard & Kuyt)

Go go go Liverpool! YNWA!
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Totally agree with you.4-2-3-1 is just nice for us.But i prefer Riera to replace benny.
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we will play against arsenal in the carling cup 4th round

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after today match, we have game in the middle of the next week tak?
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Only 2nd round and we already meet one of the top 4?Hmm,not really a good news.We even played badly against Leeds(no disrespect to them) ... doh.gif
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Totally agree with you.4-2-3-1 is just nice for us.But i prefer Riera to replace benny.
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Riera me thinks still not fit. Can anyone verify this?
Benny still on song and i do hope Rafa gives him more matches than last season ...
He deserves it.
I hope Rafa don't go back to his "rotation policy" again this season ...
Keep the same starting eleven no matter we're going to meet stronger or weaker team ( unless the said player is injured )

We all saw what happened to our team's performance everytime Rafa implements his rotation policy!
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wat 2nd round? 4th round la.
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at least lucas' days are now numbered.
aquilani due to start oct 17th - 21 more days to go rclxm9.gif
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i don't think lucas will be the one to make way, i think he will stay in our midfield, with unfortunate benayoun the one to lose out and kuyt, gerrard and aquilani playing behind torres.
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Steven Gerrard and Lucas Leiva will anchor Liverpool's midfield against Hull City this afternoon - a game you can listen to live online from 2.30pm BST.
Javier Mascherano drops to the bench for the Barclays Premier League clash.

The Reds XI in full is: Reina, Insua, Johnson, Carragher, Skrtel, Lucas, Gerrard, Riera, Benayoun, Kuyt, Torres. Subs: Cavalieri, Voronin, Aurelio, Kyrgiakos, Babel, Mascherano, Ngog.
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so , our formation would be like this :

---------------- Pepe ------------------
Johnson -- Carra --- Skrtel --- Insua
--------- Gerrard --- Lucas -------------
Kuyt --------- Benny ------ Riera
--------------- Torres ------------------
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best of luck for LFC
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gamecast isn't doing well.. any place where i can stream live?

some pointers would be much appreciated. thank you.

agh.. missed the goal.
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what the f**k happened?

man, we need our "Khali", now!
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meh, i can't watch live. >_< want to see..

why are we conceding that fast? are our set piece tactics having issues?


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Carra again, ball watching.
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current possession shows at 73% ..

man, what are we doing?
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lol at the commentator...talking about Lucas' shot

"If it's Steven Gerrard, 99.9% went into the back of the net."
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LOL. give the guy a chance lah... he's no xabi alonso yet.
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Torres WOO!!!
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Torres WOO!!!
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Torres will score hattrick and maybe 4 today...
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make it 5, if they can't man mark our striker.
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huhuhuh... come on torres.. u r my captain today.. make me proud brows.gif

LFC really need special coaches for the set pieces
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2 minute? wtf? until we score lahhhhh!


Added on September 26, 2009, 10:48 pmtoo bad benny to short... smile.gif

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QUOTE(normeck @ Sep 26 2009, 10:47 PM)
2 minute? wtf? until we score lahhhhh!


Added on September 26, 2009, 10:48 pmtoo bad benny to short... smile.gif
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You have to have a red nose to have that kind of privilege...You dont have...So, 2 minutes lor...

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love the game... both insua and lucas very confident with ball thumbup.gif


Added on September 26, 2009, 11:06 pmpergh....
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I love sopcast! lol!~

now set piece...
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hahha... come on LFC.
feed more balls to torres

OMG... setpiece
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lucky his pants didn't go down.

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set piece again
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HoOORAAAAYYY!!,YESS!!!!!
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how the hell mcshane escape from booking from 3-4 occasions where he deserved to be booked?
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i thought gerrard will have a quiet night and suddenly superb strike appeared.
such a lucky strike i'll say
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 26 2009, 11:24 PM)
how the hell mcshane escape from booking from 3-4 occasions where he deserved to be booked?
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poor mcshane..

superb torres sub with babel
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our right side is getting penetrated too easily.

what's going on?


Added on September 26, 2009, 11:27 pmtorres out, babel in.

where's krygliakos?



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i hope Babel will do a good job in front...
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kuyt striker...
babel right side and benny behind kuyt...


Added on September 26, 2009, 11:30 pmhahhah.. lol at reina

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reina can run fast. wow.


Added on September 26, 2009, 11:33 pmmascherano the monster in, gerrard out.



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Cech red card..good for liverpool next match..yahoo
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babel ooooooh babel. that was lame.
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no cech for our match with cfc.. still need to watch out for drogba..

mm... babel. doh.gif
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voronin + mascherano+babel tag.. let's see..
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Lucky for us, Cech miss next match with a red card....
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Insua.. insua.. needs to really bring the ball up with confidence!
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lol... free header la lucas


Added on September 26, 2009, 11:45 pmouch... keane 4 goals tonight


Added on September 26, 2009, 11:46 pmoh babel... finally thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 26 2009, 11:36 PM)
babel ooooooh babel. that was lame.
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Babel deliverss!!!
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BABEL SAME OLD TRICK!!!!
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thats why play Babel as FORWARD!
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extra 4 minutes. LOL

Reina nearly did it.

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I'm not too happy with Insua!
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 26 2009, 11:37 PM)
voronin + mascherano+babel tag.. let's see..
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LFC 6-1 Hull
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 26 2009, 11:54 PM)
I'm not too happy with Insua!
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He blocked 2 good shots from Ghillas in 1st half...and linked up well with Riera...I cant see why you are unhappy with him. vmad.gif mad.gif
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 26 2009, 11:54 PM)
I'm not too happy with Insua!
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i dont think so...he was good, no critical mistake...
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 26 2009, 11:56 PM)
He blocked 2 good shots from Ghillas in 1st half...and linked up well with Riera...I cant see why you are unhappy with him. vmad.gif  mad.gif
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voronin turns like a pregnant whale sad.gif
he's pretty decent when the ball is played over his head and he's facing the goal, but with his back at goal doh.gif

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Good attacking play. Good midfield holding the ball.

This is too good!! Im super happy right now!!
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Maybe i'm into possession, but clearly when he held the ball, he should make more effort to break through the wall.

Or maybe it's just me. Hmm..
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OMG we could have won like 11-1 haha.. biler depan goal.. gelabah.. shot wide zzz... anyway.. good game =)
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 27 2009, 12:01 AM)
Maybe i'm into possession, but clearly when he held the ball, he should make more effort to break through the wall.

Or maybe it's just me. Hmm..
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I like the way he linked up with Riera... thumbup.gif
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Maybe i'm into possession, but clearly when he held the ball, he should make more effort to break through the wall.

Or maybe it's just me. Hmm..
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two things for sure:

1) finishing. we clearly dominated the game. I saw 2 flows with 2 teams,

Torres+Gerrard+Benayoun (1st half team)

Babel+Mascherano+Voronin (2nd half team)

but if you discount babel's lucky touch goals, we really need to polish up our finishing.

To the credit of the 2nd "tag", we actually create a lot of chances, and it was like everyone's goal to score (maybe Hull just wanted it to end, probably too... getting thrashed like that hurts alot of morale)

2nd thing...

Set pieces! we really see how shabby we can be looking from the 1st goal.

besides that, we actually create so many chances for set pieces but it was not capitalized on!
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babel's 1st was intentional methinks.
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LFC really need to improve on setpiece..

both attack and defend
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 27 2009, 12:06 AM)
two things for sure:

1) finishing. we clearly dominated the game. I saw 2 flows with 2 teams,

Torres+Gerrard+Benayoun (1st half team)

Babel+Mascherano+Voronin (2nd half team)

but if you discount babel's lucky touch goals, we really need to polish up our finishing.

To the credit of the 2nd "tag", we actually create a lot of chances, and it was like everyone's goal to score (maybe Hull just wanted it to end, probably too... getting thrashed like that hurts alot of morale)

2nd thing...

Set pieces! we really see how shabby we can be looking from the 1st goal.

besides that, we actually create so many chances for set pieces but it was not capitalized on!
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Benny, though assisted twice, he looks tired and doesn't play really well.Not much ball was passed to him, not creating much space nor chances.It seems like most of the attack come from the left flank.

As for the set piece part, we have 12-13 corners and we didnt even SCORE 1 !!! doh.gif
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Babel shows us something today. That HE CAN ONLY PLAY AS A SUB!! (even commentator said it..)

Good play except for some selfish moves but overall, he's good. Nice 1st goal and lucky 2nd goal but hey, we need luck to win right?
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:09 AM)
Benny, though assisted twice, he looks tired and doesn't play really well.Not much ball was passed to him, not creating much space nor chances.It seems like most of the attack come from the left flank.

As for the set piece part, we have 12-13 corners and we didnt even SCORE 1 !!!  doh.gif
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he score from corner, right??
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damn, keane... if you could have just played like how you did today when you were with us... vmad.gif

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what about gerrrard goal?
he score from corner, right??
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No. He scored from nowhere XD
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I concur with your judgement.

According to soccernet gamecast stats,

10 corners, 0 goal

12 shots, 6 on goal, 6 goals.

Hull City saved 2 shots.



On paper wise we should have scored more.
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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Sep 27 2009, 12:12 AM)
what about gerrrard goal?
he score from corner, right??
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No he didn't...the ball went out of penalty box because rebound and someone passed to him and he tried to cross(i think he din mean to shoot) but went in..

and poor Riera, tried so hard but the goal counted as Babel's

On Mcshane's case, how the hell he get to stay on field so long? He should be sent off for 3-4 bookable offences in 1st half...and another card for what he did to Carra... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Mysterious Dr X @ Sep 27 2009, 12:14 AM)
No. He scored from nowhere XD
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QUOTE(Mysterious Dr X @ Sep 27 2009, 12:14 AM)
No. He scored from nowhere XD
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corner doesnt mean u MUST cross into the penalty box hmm.gif
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The official too lenient to send off Mc Shane.. i was absolutely furious !!
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:15 AM)
No he didn't...the ball went out of penalty box because rebound and someone passed to him and he tried to cross(i think he din mean to shoot) but went in..

and poor Riera, tried so hard but the goal counted as Babel's

On Mcshane's case, how the hell he get to stay on field so long? He should be sent off for 3-4 bookable offences in 1st half...and another card for what he did to Carra... vmad.gif
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like last weeks goal.. i think it was gerards header.. but kuyt curi lolx with a slight touch.. it was going in anyway
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as long as the goals flow, we won't complain. LOL

or can we?
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still from corner setpiece..
corner doesnt mean u MUST cross into the penalty box  hmm.gif
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Errr....No? It wasn't directly from the corner. It went in, rebounded, someone passed to him then he "crossed".
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QUOTE(Mysterious Dr X @ Sep 27 2009, 12:19 AM)
Errr....No? It wasn't directly from the corner. It went in, rebounded, someone passed to him then he "crossed".
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Torres is awesome!!.. We must keep Babel and play him as sub rclxms.gif flex.gif He get lucky with the cross (last match which Torres scored) and another two tonight.. Hope he can be our lucky charm rclxms.gif

Gerrard's goal is a beauty.. drool.gif
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QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:21 AM)
Torres is awesome!!.. We must keep Babel and play him as sub rclxms.gif  flex.gif He get lucky with the cross (last match which Torres scored) and another two tonight.. Hope he can be our lucky charm rclxms.gif

Gerrard's goal is a beauty..  drool.gif
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I can't imagine the scoreline if only McShane been sent off..
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to his credit, he made some good defense. else, maybe triple the score... with Sonko and Boateng defending like crazy. LOL
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Hunt as exceptional as well. McShane should've gotten the boot. I was surprised he didn't get a red..especially when the ref was so emotional lol.
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QUOTE(Mysterious Dr X @ Sep 27 2009, 12:26 AM)
Hunt as exceptional as well. McShane should've gotten the boot. I was surprised he didn't get a red..especially when the ref was so emotional lol.
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Great goals, great win ... but I wish it was 6-0!

No, I'm not being hard to please or overly critical. The goal we conceded was just so unnecessary. It was a poor heading clearance from Skrtle and then ... there was no cover! - Carra was with Skrtle and Insua was nowhere in sight! Our defence really has to improve.

Having said that, I'm elated to see us winning and scoring so many!

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Am i the only one that thinks Babel was lucky with 2 goals? I mean before his fine pass to Kuyt, he did immensely nothing running with the ball without passing it. But when he does, he scores. I want to see more passing then dribbling from him.
Lucas clearly showed he can do anything except long passing and shooting. Reminds me of a certain Mascherano.
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hey guys, can provide some highlights for it?


Added on September 27, 2009, 1:04 am
QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 27 2009, 12:13 AM)
damn, keane... if you could have just played like how you did today when you were with us...  vmad.gif
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hey guys, can provide some highlights for it?
Here it is

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2009/09/26/li...ghlights-video/
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i was able to watch with sopcast starting from 3-1 onwards.

missed the first 3 goals.

But I really have to admit the sole Hull City goal really points at a very disastrous defense in our back 4.
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Torres is doing really well on fire smile.gif

chelsea is a big joke haha tongue.gif
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The boss says Torres can still improve biggrin.gif


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=270005&cc=3888 <--- sawce
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any1 noe any mamaks around PJ area that prioritize and always show liverpool match whenever its available? dam pissed coz go around 2-3 mamaks all also show ManUtd match. in the end need to sit down and watch manUtd match and wait for the goal replay that suddenly bounced out. mad.gif
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QUOTE(SwimmingPool @ Sep 27 2009, 01:21 AM)
Torres is doing really well on fire smile.gif

chelsea is a big joke haha
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QUOTE(akRia @ Sep 27 2009, 01:28 AM)
mind you,we lost 3 goals to villa. never criticize a team like chelsea
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keep our momentum , torres form
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any1 noe any mamaks around PJ area that prioritize and always show liverpool match whenever its available? dam pissed coz go around 2-3 mamaks all also show ManUtd match. in the end need to sit down and watch manUtd match and wait for the goal replay that suddenly bounced out.  mad.gif
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haha, i know.

was from Subang parade and really late for the game, search mamak around for a liverpool game, all show manc's match... in the end i just watch the game with much sober.
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QUOTE(LucasPSS @ Sep 27 2009, 01:28 AM)
any1 noe any mamaks around PJ area that prioritize and always show liverpool match whenever its available? dam pissed coz go around 2-3 mamaks all also show ManUtd match. in the end need to sit down and watch manUtd match and wait for the goal replay that suddenly bounced out.  mad.gif
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bro, if u wanna know, all mamak in malaysia is mufc's die hard fan.. hehe
but if u dun mind for distance, go to KJ area somewhere around giant KJ got lfc mamak supporter there.
i forgot the mamak name, but that area always open lfc match.

2nd backup plan, just scold the mamak to switch to lfc match channel. they won't mind at all. hehehe...
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We Liverpool fans are like minority compared to United fans here in Malaysia. That's why I prefer to stay at home watching rather than searching for a mamak. Only going out if there is definite big Liverpool match.


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bro, if u wanna know, all mamak in malaysia is mufc's die hard fan.. hehe
but if u dun mind for distance, go to KJ area somewhere around giant KJ got lfc mamak supporter there.
i forgot the mamak name, but that area always open lfc match.

2nd backup plan, just scold the mamak to switch to lfc match channel. they won't mind at all. hehehe...
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But all other United fans will throw roti canai at you..

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But even during Arsenal match also, susah wanna find a liverpool game at mamak,haha!
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why did Masch not start today?
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keep our momentum , torres form
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if torres is tougher as rooney and maintain his pace and skill, than nobody can stop him.
keep up good momentum, lfc will continuously win and win and win and win the EPL...
god bless liverpool. Hail liverpool... rclxms.gif


Added on September 27, 2009, 2:01 am[quote=GulaV,Sep 27 2009, 01:45 AM]
We Liverpool fans are like minority compared to United fans here in Malaysia. That's why I prefer to stay at home watching rather than searching for a mamak. Only going out if there is definite big Liverpool match.


Who said we are minority bro?
majority in m'sia is lfc fans not 'red satan' fans. but lfc fan is underground that's why we seems like a minority.
somemore most of lfc fans came from middle-aged people..

ok, one more backup plan;
try to find a coffeeshop which got majority of middle-aged man, they surely wanna watch lfc match only. hehehe...
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Sep 27 2009, 01:47 AM)
But even during Arsenal match also, susah wanna find a liverpool game at mamak,haha!
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Actually liverpool will be shown over arsenal. Unless they play top teams ...
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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Sep 27 2009, 01:43 AM)
bro, if u wanna know, all mamak in malaysia is mufc's die hard fan.. hehe
but if u dun mind for distance, go to KJ area somewhere around giant KJ got lfc mamak supporter there.
i forgot the mamak name, but that area always open lfc match.

2nd backup plan, just scold the mamak to switch to lfc match channel. they won't mind at all. hehehe...
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ok will check out KJ area next time.. if i realli go according with ur 2nd plan at the mamak i went just now, im in deep shit lol. Im the onli one wearing liverpool jersey there. and all i heard was jeers when they show liverpool scores and im the onli 1 clapping hands, awkward right? but who cares LOL sweat.gif
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guys, go to a cc and use sopcast lah

i'm using sopcast.. now looking to use sopcast portable. just remember the website, they always have few channels.. some english, some italian, some espanol, some portuguese.. lol


i don't bother going to mamaks in where i am now. i'm the one of the very few minority that supports liverpool lol.


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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Sep 27 2009, 01:54 AM)
if torres is tougher as rooney and maintain his pace and skill, than nobody can stop him.
keep up good momentum, lfc will continuously win and win and win and win the EPL...
god bless liverpool. Hail liverpool...  rclxms.gif
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If torres is realli that perfect, RM is gonna splash 100m on him. brows.gif
but i prefer the current him anyway lol.
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we can breathe relief that Chelsea's Cech's red card means suspension when they play us.
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i won't breathe relief.

it means they'll be mentally prepared to park the bus.

we'll have to find a way to mutilate them.

its not that easy.
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I'm gutted. Had to miss the match because I had to bring a friend from Hong Kong around, but when we were at Bangsar walking around hunting for a bar to chill out, NONE of them were showing our match.

I understand the popularity of the scums, but wtf? Not even one lolx? laugh.gif

Good to see Torres hitting top form, managed to catch the 1st 2 goals during half-time highlights... were brilliant. thumbup.gif
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Don't be too confident. Chelsea always fight for their red cards and always win them. Until then, just pray that they'll lose their appeal (most probably will be done).

If they lose Cech, it lighten the burden on us.
But I prefer we beat them when they have full squad, so there will be no ugly yell "no cech can lorr..."

Win is the most important part. Whether Cech is there or not. Losing is not an option.
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QUOTE(LucasPSS @ Sep 27 2009, 02:12 AM)
If torres is realli that perfect, RM is gonna splash 100m on him.  brows.gif
but i prefer the current him anyway lol.
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lol
tell u what
sooner or later torres will play for RM
just remember my words...doesnt matter 2 years, 4 years or 10 years later..he will leave liverpool
just remember my words
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Sep 27 2009, 02:46 AM)
I'm gutted. Had to miss the match because I had to bring a friend from Hong Kong around, but when we were at Bangsar walking around hunting for a bar to chill out, NONE of them were showing our match.

I understand the popularity of the scums, but wtf? Not even one lolx? laugh.gif

Good to see Torres hitting top form, managed to catch the 1st 2 goals during half-time highlights... were brilliant. thumbup.gif
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i understand ur situation mate.. doh.gif

now hope torres can continue his form on the upcoming UEFa match and against chelsea.
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liverpool played like shit.
25 shots and only 8 at goal?
wtf la, im sure they can do better than that, dissapointing that Liverpool didnt hit double figures biggrin.gif

almost every one had a pot shot at goal cept i think for skrtel / carra.
even Lucas managed to pull off a girly shot on goal.

and our 10th goal in a row allowed in from a dead ball, and the failure to clean up.
Alan Hansen said it best “We always used zonal marking when I won championships with Liverpool. It was all about winning the first ball and if not, you’ve got to clean up the second.”
well, obviously failure to clean up the second led to the goal.

then up next Chelsea, who obviously have Cech out, and likely A.Cole too.
tho Ballack should be back by then, and Lucas will be in for a hell of a time tongue.gif
Joe Cole should be also probably be back at full fitness then, so yea its still not going to be easy at the Bridge.
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Sep 27 2009, 02:57 AM)
lol
tell u what
sooner or later torres will play for RM
just remember my words...doesnt matter 2 years, 4 years or 10 years later..he will leave liverpool
just remember my words
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i doubt he will join real madrid (if in this case rm=real madrid) he from atletico madrid ,dont forget this
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he will return to Spain, but I doubt it'll be RM.

Yes, he was an Athletico Madrid fella to begin with.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 27 2009, 03:49 AM)
he will return to Spain, but I doubt it'll be RM.

Yes, he was an Athletico Madrid fella to begin with.
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Seconded. Snowball chance in hell that he will join Real Madrid.

Only Owen thinks it is okay to cross the great divide and join ur fiercest rivals...
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although lucas not has special ability like amazing pace like evra, amazing passing ability like alonso but he is very good team player..same like fletcher (mu) that already been a scapegoat when something go wrong...
maybe many of us (liv fan of course) don't see that...but i think rafa is spot on..you can see our passing & movement much2 better since alonso gone..
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gerrard's goal is notworthy.gif, torres' performance is rclxms.gif and babel's two goals are rolleyes.gif

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lol..

i think if rieras shot not bounce out .. it will not be a goal
lucky babel laugh.gif

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why is it wrong to cross over to RM? Tevez crossed over to Manchester United derby rivals.
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why is it wrong to cross over to RM? Tevez crossed over to Manchester United derby rivals.
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Torres have said very clearly that he will never join Real.
He'll only return to Spain to play for Atletico.
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gerrard's goal is notworthy.gif, torres' performance is  rclxms.gif and babel's two goals are  rolleyes.gif
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Very good performance. Hope next match no screw ups. No flip flops.
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 27 2009, 08:14 AM)
why is it wrong to cross over to RM? Tevez crossed over to Manchester United derby rivals.
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Torres aint tevez doh.gif

Just because Tevez joined derby rivals doesnt mean everyone out there act like them.

Maybe you have to see how Torres celebrated when he scored against RM.
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lets not overjoy our winning yesterday...we got Chelsea and Manu next...minimize the error and hoping for the best....
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Sep 27 2009, 02:57 AM)
lol
tell u what
sooner or later torres will play for RM
just remember my words...doesnt matter 2 years, 4 years or 10 years later..he will leave liverpool
just remember my words
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Barca or Atletico maybe, but Real? He hates their guts so much and after getting stick from them over the years, he was so fired up during the Real match that he delivered his best performance in a Red shirt despite having an ankle injury.

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why is it wrong to cross over to RM? Tevez crossed over to Manchester United derby rivals.
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Tevez never felt at home in United and once said Funguson has never really communicated with him throughout his 2 years loan spell. It's a shame how people could criticize Rafa's "man-management" when Funguson was ill-treating a player that would literally die for the cause. He would have been a Rafa-type of player.
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the next 3 match in EPL is very important. It can push us onto the top of the table for the 1st time in the season.. Lets hope we can harvest as many points as possible out of the 3 games.
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QUOTE(normeck @ Sep 27 2009, 10:36 AM)
lets not overjoy our winning yesterday...we got Chelsea and Manu next...minimize the error and hoping for the best....
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Enjoy while you can!!

But yeah, looking at our next fixtures, this Oct gonna be hell for us.

One game at a time.

Fiorentina is not easy. They losing Gillardino is a good news but never underestimate them. They've been winning except for the unfortunate clash with Lyon last 2 weeks.

Talking about BPL, getting draws with Chelsea and United are somehow a good news for me, but win against them are obviously better. But lets not forget about Arsenal, they are sneaky.
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Sep 27 2009, 02:46 AM)
I'm gutted. Had to miss the match because I had to bring a friend from Hong Kong around, but when we were at Bangsar walking around hunting for a bar to chill out, NONE of them were showing our match.

I understand the popularity of the scums, but wtf? Not even one lolx? laugh.gif
You should have headed over to George and the Dragon in BSC. It's a hangout for Liverpool fans.

I have to agree with your observation though. I was at a full moon party and I planned to watch my game there by low and behold, my friend and I were the only Liverpool fans. We were deciding where to go because I just knew that the majority of pubs would be screening the Man Utd game. In any case, we went to the clubhouse in Bandar Sri Damansara and got them to switch the channel from ESPN to Star Sports. Just before the game was about to kick-off, the waiter comes back to say that some people want to watch the Man Utd game. Surprise, surprise eh? Well we weren't going to budge because we had gone all the way there and ordered a bucket of beer. While we were kitted out in our Gerrard and Carragher kits respectively, none of them were flying their colours urgh. Anyway waiter comes back to strike a compromise. They watched the first half while we watched the second.

Yesterday started out nice actually. I was in my Carra jersey walking out of one of the toilets at the Curve and suddenly I hear someone go, "Carragher" from behind me. I turn around as this bloke makes his way round the corner and smile at him. He looks at me and goes, Carragher, not many have Carragher on the back of their jerseys". I then went on to explain why I chose Carragher's name above everyone else. I then asked if he was a Liverpool fans and he went, "yes, for many years, since 1969". "It was before Fagan, when Paisley was manager". I was in awe. It was a privilege to meet such a seasoned fan. I went on to tell him how I had once met Phil Neal over beers and shared some of the stories he told us on that day. We stood there talking for about 15 minutes before wishing one another all the best of the night's game. Nice moment that was. It's not my first encounter meeting some random Liverpool fan on the street but certainly one of my most memorable. Usually when I bump into a fellow Red, we'll look at one another and exchange a nod of acknowlegement indicating a sense of mutual respect. Prior to yesterday's incident, I was in BSC with my "Shankly" t-shirt when some white dude walked by me and went, "nice T-Shirt". I love the sense of camaradarie amongst our fans.

We've won our last 4 games and it was essential that we did, especially since it was against weaker opposition. Good to have some momentum going into the game against Chelsea and the mancs. There are also negatives however. While we've been banging in the goals, we've also been conceeding a good number. We've now scored 5 goals more than anyone else in the Premiership and Torres is the most prolific striker at the moment but dodgy defending last night let to Geovanni's goal. We cannot afford to make mistakes against more clinical sides like Chelsea. That being said, we can compensate by going forward more. Towards the end of last season we were banging the goals in despite also conceeding. I'm hoping to see us remain positive in our approach to games and going toe-to-toe with the other big guns in the coming months.

Torres to RM one day? I really doubt it, as big a Liverpool fan as he is, he's also Atletico through and through. Then again loyalties can be bought, so who knows for sure eh?
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Torres to Real Madrid is like Owen to Manure....
but he said he might go to Serie A someday so he can say that he'd played in all the top leagues...

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Sep 27 2009, 12:37 PM)
Torres to Real Madrid is like Owen to Manure....
but he said he might go to Serie A someday so he can say that he'd played in all the top leagues...
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Sep 27 2009, 12:37 PM)
Torres to Real Madrid is like Owen to Manure....
but he said he might go to Serie A someday so he can say that he'd played in all the top leagues...
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Not true mate. Owen was signed from Chester, he isn't a local lad unlike Torres. Torres to Real Madrid would be like Carragher to Man Utd.
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Any links to the highights of last nite game??
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Sep 27 2009, 12:37 PM)
Torres to Real Madrid is like Owen to Manure....
but he said he might go to Serie A someday so he can say that he'd played in all the top leagues...
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How can you compare Torres to what Judas did?? God the blasphemy!
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I can say la..This season Torres can become top scores.

As we knew last season he was hamstring injured many times.

So he missed his golden boots.haha..

This season is different.He is improving like last 2 season.
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QUOTE(darrengoh @ Sep 27 2009, 02:54 PM)
I can say la..This season Torres can become top scores.

As we knew last season he was hamstring injured many times.

So he missed his golden boots.haha..

This season is different.He is improving like last 2 season.
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why did Masch not start today?
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read newspaper today..Insua selected for next Argentina World Cup Qualifier match..good
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According to last time report.New anfield stadium when is ready?

I think 2010 is it
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Liverpool in talks over £125m investment from Arab prince.

Liverpool co-owner George Gillett was in talks on Saturday night about selling a 25 per cent stake in the Anfield club to an Arab prince in a deal worth £125million.

Sunday Mirror Sport understands that Gillett has met with Prince Khalid al-Faisal and members of of the Saudi royal family about investment opportunities at Liverpool.

Discussions initially began about various commercial projects but quickly progressed into talks aimed at bringing the prince in as a co-owner to work alongside Gillett and his fellow American Tom Hicks.

Any share deal would require the blessing of Hicks before it could be rubber-stamped. And although Hicks is yet to meet personally with Prince Khalid, it is understood that the Texan is ready to welcome a new partner if the terms of the deal are right.

Hicks and Gillett have been searching the Middle East for potential investors to ease the burden of the club’s £300m debts.

Liverpool had a record turnover last year and have just announced football’s biggest shirt sponsorship deal, worth £20m-a-year with Standard Chartered Bank.

But the club has been unable to finance the construction of a new 60,000-capacity stadium at Stanley Park because of the credit crunch.

And manager Rafa Benitez has been told that he must work within a strict transfer budget of £20m-a-year.

A Liverpool spokesman refused to comment on the new developments.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liver...icle171959.html

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an arab getting along with two americans...rite.
next we'll bring in investors from congo with their blood money.
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prince faisal. he attended last games at anfield

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but he said he might go to Serie A someday so he can say that he'd played in all the top leagues...
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erm... Torres is a loyal lad for me... He has a tattoo of u'll never walk alone even before he came... Not many would do such thing... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Jer @ Sep 27 2009, 02:34 PM)
You can catch all the highlights here
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Thanks for the excellent link.

QUOTE(darrengoh @ Sep 27 2009, 05:25 PM)
According to last time report.New anfield stadium when is ready?

I think 2010 is it
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Better get more silver into the cupboard then it's easier to get funds to built the stadium.


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prince faisal. he attended  last games at anfield

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erm... Torres is a loyal lad for me... He has a tattoo of u'll never walk alone even before he came... Not many would do such thing...  rclxms.gif
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"His friends had the words tattooed on their forearm. Torres, aware of the controversy it would cause opted out so they gave him an armband with the words inscribed on the inside. Their secret – until a clash with a Real Sociedad defender on April 23, 2007 revealed them to the world."

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"His friends had the words tattooed on their forearm. Torres, aware of the controversy it would cause opted out so they gave him an armband with the words inscribed on the inside. Their secret – until a clash with a Real Sociedad defender on April 23, 2007 revealed them to the world."

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i mean, no tattoo. at least not prior to his arrival. still, i don't question his passion for liverpool.
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According to last time report.New anfield stadium when is ready?

I think 2010 is it
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back in june when i went to anfield for the tour i did walked across stanley park towards goodison park, it's still a big empty land of green grass with people playing football over it. I did not see any sign of construction or maybe i simply walked past the wrong side of it.
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read newspaper today..Insua selected for next Argentina World Cup Qualifier match..good
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Insua is pretty confident during that match...
Keep going forward without fear..
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read newspaper today..Insua selected for next Argentina World Cup Qualifier match..good
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I wonder if Rafa will pull the brakes on the attacking football on the upcoming match against Chelsea...our defence still shaky and i never like the sight of Drogba tormenting our backline...

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I wonder if Rafa will pull the brakes on the attacking football on the upcoming match against Chelsea...our defence still shaky and i never like the sight of Drogba tormenting our backline...
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i think agger's comeback can strengthen our defend during match against blues.
dun think skrtel can partner well with carra, both got communication error, i.e the Giovanni's goal from Hull against us last week showed how bad the communication between carra n skrtel.
let's pray for our defenders for not making any stupid mistake anymore, otherwise we will get laugh from drogba n anelka... sweat.gif
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I don't think so. Chelski's defence is also shaky at the moment and, with Cech suspended, this seems to be the best time to attack them. Moreover, we will have a psychological advantage having won 6-1 while they lost 1-3. Logically, if we attack all out even Drogba will have to come back and help the defence.

Having said that, you are also right about our defence not being 100% so far this season. Probably both Masch & Lucas will have to do extra training in preparation for running up and down during the Chelski game!
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Carra and Skrtel are ok for now. It's risky to put match unfit Agger straight into our backline. What we need is how to contain their midfield. The obvious answer is bring back Masch into the team means Gerrard have to play behind Torres again because there is no way Rafa will rest Lucas out from the match. And both our wingback Glen and Insua have to be more careful going forward making empty space at the back where Malouda can easily penetrate with his pace.

Drogba and Anelka are truly frightening. But lets see how it goes with Fiorentina first, then we can talk about Chelsea.
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i was able to watch with sopcast starting from 3-1 onwards.

missed the first 3 goals.

But I really have to admit the sole Hull City goal really points at a very disastrous defense in our back 4.
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Superb win by the boy's although there could have been more thanks to Hull's defending, puts us in great nick for the match against Chelsea

by the way the Chelsea match is this Sunday 11 PM rite?
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Hey guys,
i heard news on radio just now that rafa is requesting fund for 45m to bring villa to anfield.
rafa is not giving up hope yet.
hopefully prince faisal can do something for our financial.
please bring villa. see how the partnership of spaniard can frighten other opponents. pleaseeeeee....

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QUOTE(nando @ Sep 28 2009, 10:32 AM)
I wonder if Rafa will pull the brakes on the attacking football on the upcoming match against Chelsea...our defence still shaky and i never like the sight of Drogba tormenting our backline...
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I believe he would. Our attacking fullbacks played an integral role since the start of the season and with them going forward, it leaves lots of space to be exploited, we've got to be careful of their wingers especially. I could see Carra being skinned alive by Dogba if he decides to show up.

Last season under Hiddink, they showed that if they work as a team, they could outmuscle us & Barca, especially in midfield. I would prefer to see Lucas and Masch starting in midfield as they provide cover for us, however that may mean Gerrard dropping deeper and Torres isolated up-front. Plus, I'm sure they will work hard to close down on Benayoun. We have to be patient and not giving possession away easily.

And then another issue, set-piece. As pain as it for me to say, Lampard's corner delivery is far better than Gerrard, and it could be a match-decider if we don't get our zonal marking issues solved.

Having that said, I still think Chelsea has a lot to do to stop our players. Although they've beaten us at Anfield last season, it was decided by the 2 set-piece (The 3rd happened when we went all gung-ho.). With Cech and Ashley Cole out, we could expose their defense.

Definitely an interesting match. Can't wait. smile.gif
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Kop chaos! Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks won't budge over £200m-plus offer from Saudi


Tom Hicks is set to step up his power battle with fellow Liverpool owner George Gillett by rejecting an initial investment proposal from a billionaire Saudi prince.

Hicks is expected to turn down a £200m-plus offer to buy 50 per cent of the shares in the club from Prince Faisal bin Fahd bin Abdullah, who sat beside Gillett at Anfield on Saturday to watch Liverpool's 6-1 thrashing of Hull.

It is the latest twist in an unseemly scramble between Hicks and Gillett to find backers willing to make an offer the other cannot refuse. Hicks has been scouring the Middle East while Gillett thinks he has seized the initiative by courting Prince Faisal, who is the boss of investment company F6.

The Prince told Al Riyadh newspaper: 'We're seeking to buy 50 per cent of the shares in the club, which is suffering debts of £245m. The transaction, on which a decision is close, will be worth between £200m and £350m.'

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But Liverpool insiders played down suggestions a deal may be imminent, while sources close to Hicks claimed he was not about to sell his stake, despite being aware of the Prince's Anfield visit.

Prince Faisal was officially there to rubberstamp an initiative to build a Liverpool academy in his home country. He witnessed the depth of animosity towards Gillett and Hicks, as hundreds of fans demonstrated against them outside the main entrance before kick-off and many in the Kop unfurled banners calling for the pair to sell up.

Prince Faisal will find Hicks in no mood to concede defeat to his fellow American. Relations have thawed after their fall-out and refusal to speak last year, but Hicks will dig his heels in over the value of his stake.

It is understood he may be prepared to sell, but it would have to be significantly nearer the top end of the wide range mentioned yesterday.

Gillett received a �360m windfall from the sale of his Montreal Canadiens ice hockey team, but Hicks has always seemed the more pro-active decision-maker after pushing through manager Rafa Benitez's contract extension and bringing in Christian Purslow as managing director for outgoing chief executive Rick Parry.

He is expected to stand firm in the face of renewed pressure from Gillett to make way.

A spokesman for the Prince's holding company, Fama, said: 'What I know is that the Prince attended the game and signed an agreement with Liverpool yesterday to build a sports academy in Saudi Arabia.'

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We got a new sports academy? rolleyes.gif

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It's almost done deal I guess, looking at the picture.


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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Sep 28 2009, 01:13 PM)
Hey guys,
i heard news on radio just now that rafa is requesting fund for 45m to bring villa to anfield.
rafa is not giving up hope yet.
hopefully prince faisal can do something for our financial.
please bring villa. see how the partnership of spaniard can frighten other opponents. pleaseeeeee....

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not so fast, our American owners don't want to sell their share to the Prince!
Of coz I wished they would. The Prince just looked so confident in his smart suit.
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QUOTE(bomberkenny @ Sep 28 2009, 01:49 PM)
not so fast, our American owners don't want to sell their share to the Prince!
Of coz I wished they would. The Prince just looked so confident in his smart suit.
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Anip94 bro, ur siggy should put this

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omg. tom hicks rejected saudi prince. what a sad things la. i hope he approve.
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our previous owner doesnt learn ehhh...roy evans + gerard houllier as a manager..now tom hicks + george gillette as the owners..like the old malay saying `kapal kalau ada 2 nakhoda maka karamlah ia'...meaning never ever pick 2 person to lead..they'll be a high chance it'll fail! nod.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Sep 28 2009, 05:25 PM)
our previous owner doesnt learn ehhh...roy evans + gerard houllier as a manager..now tom hicks + george gillette as the owners..like the old malay saying `kapal kalau ada 2 nakhoda maka karamlah ia'...meaning never ever pick 2 person to lead..they'll be a high chance it'll fail! nod.gif
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any link more info about the arab guy? i scare he is another portsmouth chairman ...lolx..rich but stingy wtf
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Private Saudi sports investment company F6 is in direct talks with George Gillett, the American co-owner of Liverpool, to buy all or part of his 50 per cent stake in the club. yay. got hope.
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Javier Mascherano and Yossi Benayoun will both miss Liverpool's Champions League Group E clash with Fiorentina in Florence on Tuesday night.

Midfielder Mascherano, who only came on as a late substitute for Steven Gerrard in Saturday's 6-1 hammering of Hull, is suffering from sickness, while Benayoun picked up a leg injury in the same match. Neither were included in the Reds squad that flew to Italy on Monday.

Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez may well have opted for a more cautious approach against Fiorentina had Mascherano been available, but it is now likely that that winger Albert Riera will stay in the side.

Youngster Martin Kelly is unavailable due to England Under-20 commitments.
What a blow....Rafa's probably resting them for Chelsea's clash... unsure.gif
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What time's the match? What channel?
Definitely being shown?
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What time's the match? What channel?
Definitely being shown?
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Hamstring injury for Masch. He wont be playing against Chelsea sadly sad.gif
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Hamstring injury for Masch. He wont be playing against Chelsea sadly sad.gif
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omg. tom hicks rejected saudi prince. what a sad things la. i hope he approve.
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Hicks rejected Prince Faisal becos he is arabian. us anti-arabian. dun forget that bro.. unsure.gif
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Hicks rejected Prince Faisal becos he is arabian. us anti-arabian. dun forget that bro..  unsure.gif
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Hicks rejected Prince Faisal becos he is arabian. us anti-arabian. dun forget that bro..  unsure.gif
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I still feel selling off Bellamy was a mistake has he's performing for MC..
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MyRAWK will be organising a Special Event / Viewing Party in conjunction of this title challengers' clash at The Library, e@curve this Sunday, 4th October, starting at 10pm. We will have premium gifts and freebies to give away in our Q&A / Quiz sessions, so come armed with your best LFC knowledge in order to win attractive prizes. Hit link for instructions / map to go to the venue: The Library, e@curve
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 28 2009, 01:55 PM)
Hicks just wanna hike up the price... brows.gif

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Hicks & Gillett should realized that the valuation is a paper valuation until the deal is sealed and the Prince get's his desired stake and the American their money then thus far it is on paper just a value. And yeah i want the new stadium to be built ASAP with or without a new investor.

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any link more info about the arab guy? i scare he is another portsmouth chairman ...lolx..rich but stingy wtf
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He's paying a hell lot of money just to get a 50% stake, the fact remain that from the media it was stated that both co-owners will only limit a 25% stake sell, but the Prince insist on getting more than 25% instead and he's paying top money to push through the deal.
Tough deal, since both co-owner must agree on a stake sell, that was part of deal when they bought the club.

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Hicks rejected Prince Faisal becos he is arabian. us anti-arabian. dun forget that bro..  unsure.gif
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US anti-arabian??
Common, which country is the largest supplier of military hardwares to Saudi?
Please don't make ignorant statement.
Btw this is purely business, regardless of which individual the co-owners want to partner, end of the day it will come down to how much money he/she is willing to pay for a stake in LFC and some T&C.
All i can say is that this is exciting time for LFC and hopefully we will get the money that Rafa deserved in order to better the squad and at the same time some local youth development.

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By ROB HARRIS=
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MANCHESTER, England (AP) -- A Saudi prince has begun negotiations to buy out all or part of the 50 percent share of Liverpool held by co-owner George Gillett Jr. despite having concerns about existing debt at the Premier League club.

Prince Faisal bin Fahd bin Abdullah al-Saud is carrying out due diligence, going through Liverpool's accounts, with a view to buying into Gillett's share through his sports investment firm F6.

He has been given a period of exclusivity of several months in terms of negotiating with Gillett, F6 director Barry Didato told The Associated Press on Monday.

"The prince is looking to buy anywhere from 0 to 100 percent (of Liverpool), but he doesn't need to have a controlling interest," said Didato, director of strategic investment at F6.

"On Saturday, Prince Faisal signed an exclusivity deal between the groups. We are at the stage of due diligence and taking George's lead. It is moving pretty quickly. At the moment he is only working with George Gillett and I'd certainly think it would have to happen by the end of the end of this year."

Prince Faisal is not in talks with Tom Hicks, who owns the other half of the club.


Gillett would not be able to act independently of co-owner Hicks and sell his 50 percent stake without the permission of the Texan. Hicks would be willing to allow 25 percent of the club to be sold, an executive familiar with the situation told the AP on Sunday. The executive spoke on condition of anonymity because the club is not discussing the situation publicly.

Prince Faisal, along with Didato, was at Anfield on Saturday to see Liverpool thrash Hull 6-1 when the exclusivity deal with Gillett was signed. That agreement will also see the prince and Gillett, who is the majority owner of NASCAR team Richard Petty Motorsports, explore building football academies and rolling out NASCAR in the Middle East.

"F6 is energized about the strategic partnership with his (Gillett's) groups and seeks to lead the way with our investment partners in identifying the brands, personalities, facilities and media that will catalyze the evolution of sporting experiences in the Kingdom and beyond," the prince said of the motorsport aspect of the agreement in a statement Monday.

"I am delighted, enthusiastic, and honored to have the opportunity to partner with such a visionary in His Highness Prince Faisal," Gillett was quoted as saying in the statement.

The most significant part of the agreement could see part of Liverpool, which was bought by Gillett and Hicks in 2007, move into Saudi ownership.

However, Didato cautioned that the prince would be reluctant to invest if his cash was being used to trim the club's 245-million pound ($290 million) debt or if there were lingering splits between Hicks and Gillett.

"Right now George has a lot of ongoing issues with his existing partner and he is working through those with the banks and Premier League," Didato said. "Prince Faisal has said we're keeping a very open door policy to it, but that the existing partnership should not look to him being a solution to Liverpool's balance sheet and there are some balance sheet issues yet to be resolved.

"We want the healthiest of clubs and debt is absolutely an issue. Any investment has to be business centric."

Hicks and Gillett began feuding late in 2007 over the potential hiring of Juergen Klinsmann as a replacement for manager Rafa Benitez. The split was exacerbated when Hicks tried to sell his stake early in 2008 to a Dubai group, but Hicks refused to sanction the sale.

Hicks maintained to AP earlier this month that the two men were united, but the prince still has concerns.

"His Highness will not get involved in family counseling situations," Didato said by telephone. "But with that he remains very open to bringing in his investment capital, if and when those situations can warrant his investment capital.

"He's keeping George in the driving seat. He likes George and there is a lot of chemistry. A shared vision needs to be part of it."



the prince likes george..hope he like toms too..or else our club gonna pay the price! shakehead.gif
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What a pity Masch and Benny won't be in the squad playing against Fiorentina ...

Hope Riera and Lucas can step up to the occasion ...
And we will see Gerrard playing deeper due to this?


Added on September 29, 2009, 2:10 pmCould Saudi prince be answer to Liverpool FC's investment problems?
Sep 28 2009
by Luke Traynor, Liverpool Echo

LIVERPOOL FC co-owner George Gillett faced protests from angry fans as he made a rare trip to the city over the weekend.

Supporters from Reds’ union Spirit of Shankly (SOS) gave the US businessman a hostile reception as he visited training ground Melwood, the LFC academy and Anfield.

Gillett was at Anfield to watch the Reds 6-1 drubbing of Hull on Saturday.

And he was accompanied by a Saudi billionaire.

Prince Faisal bin Fahad Bin Abdullah al Saud, who owns Sports Investment company F6, was pictured sitting alongside Gillett in the directors’ box.

Their appearance sparked reports the Prince and Liverpool were on the verge of a massive deal that could see the Saudi take control of up to 50% of club shares in return for investment ranging from £200m to £350m.

But sources claimed talk of the wealthy Saudi ploughing cash into the Reds was not on the agenda.

Instead it was suggested Gillett invited Faisal in a bid to rubberstamp plans to set up Liverpool FC academies in the Middle East.

Anfield bosses stressed privately talk of high-level investment and selling of club shares was wide of the mark.

According to Liverpool sources matters of sponsorship and global branding were uppermost in the businessmen’s minds.

Asked directly about speculation involving possible Saudi investment, a spokesman for the owners declined to comment.

Relations between co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett who have had several major fall-outs since they took over in February 2007, are said to be more cordial than they were 18 months ago.

And sources insisted the meeting between Gillett and the Prince was arranged with Hicks’s backing.

>>>> IMO ... get rid of G&H! Let the prince take full control of LFC. What an arse-holes these americans!

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QUOTE(LucasPSS @ Sep 27 2009, 01:28 AM)
any1 noe any mamaks around PJ area that prioritize and always show liverpool match whenever its available? dam pissed coz go around 2-3 mamaks all also show ManUtd match. in the end need to sit down and watch manUtd match and wait for the goal replay that suddenly bounced out.  mad.gif
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QUOTE(Fyrekat @ Sep 29 2009, 04:44 PM)
I used to watch at this place outside LimKokWing in Taman Mayang. I'm pretty sure the owner (William) is a Liverpool fan.
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Hey Guys,

need help finding mamak/restaurant around BM/Butterworth area which always show liverpool game..any idea where got?
last time watch only twenty minutes the owner change watch manyoo..zzzz

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QUOTE(LucasPSS @ Sep 27 2009, 01:28 AM)
any1 noe any mamaks around PJ area that prioritize and always show liverpool match whenever its available? dam pissed coz go around 2-3 mamaks all also show ManUtd match. in the end need to sit down and watch manUtd match and wait for the goal replay that suddenly bounced out.  mad.gif
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its not often that MU and LFC games are on at the same time, and if they are, well tough luck cos most mamaks are not LFC ones.
i know one in subang SS15 tho thats pro-LFC and Spurs.
other than that, the nicest one so far is at PJ sec19 just opposite Wisma Kemajuan, they project over a double storey wall and with pretty decent sound.

anyway, go mamak for wat?
come The Library at e@curve to watch the LFC games from now on tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 29 2009, 07:01 PM)
its not often that MU and LFC games are on at the same time, and if they are, well tough luck cos most mamaks are not LFC ones.
i know one in subang SS15 tho thats pro-LFC and Spurs.
other than that, the nicest one so far is at PJ sec19 just opposite Wisma Kemajuan, they project over a double storey wall and with pretty decent sound.

anyway, go mamak for wat?
come The Library at e@curve to watch the LFC games from now on tongue.gif

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is this the home ground place to meet up with the liverpool's fans? biggrin.gif
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so if all goes well, it'll stay that way for quite awhile.
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hopefully so, the Chelsea match will be myrawk's first gathering at the Library.
so if all goes well, it'll stay that way for quite awhile.
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is it inside Library or outside? im thinking of going coz my office is just at Damansara Perdana but i dun drink.
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its on the outer patio area of the Library overlooking the road.
there'll definitely be a couple of myrawk banners facing the road so u cant miss it.
no need to drink also, the waitresses definitely wont be asking everyone there to order a drink.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 29 2009, 11:56 PM)
its on the outer patio area of the Library overlooking the road.
there'll definitely be a couple of myrawk banners facing the road so u cant miss it.
no need to drink also, the waitresses definitely wont be asking everyone there to order a drink.
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last time u guys did at breakers, it was a great night...no more breakers?
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last time u guys did at breakers, it was a great night...no more breakers?
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but right now the location of the Library is just as good, and the guy who runs it is also a liverpool fan.
plus u dont have to worry about those jaga kereta boys in hartamas charging RM10 for parking...and damn road blocks coming out of hartamas etc...

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Fabio Aurelio returns to the Liverpool starting XI for tonight's Champions League clash against Fiorentina - listen live online from 7.30pm.
The Brazilian comes in for Albert Riera as Rafael Benitez makes one change from the side that hammered Hull at the weekend.

Liverpool: Reina, Johnson, Insua, Carragher, Skrtel, Lucas, Gerrard, Benayoun, Aurelio, Kuyt, Torres. Subs: Cavalieri, Voronin, Riera, Kyrgiakos, Babel, Spearing, Plessis.
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we've had some mancs before also.
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Fabio Aurelio returns to the Liverpool starting XI for tonight's Champions League clash against Fiorentina - listen live online from 7.30pm.
The Brazilian comes in for Albert Riera as Rafael Benitez makes one change from the side that hammered Hull at the weekend.

Liverpool: Reina, Johnson, Insua, Carragher, Skrtel, Lucas, Gerrard, Benayoun, Aurelio, Kuyt, Torres. Subs: Cavalieri, Voronin, Riera, Kyrgiakos, Babel, Spearing, Plessis.
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now where is dossena going to play? tongue.gif
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Is Benayoun starting? I thought he was injured. I guess Rafa is going for attack, big time rclxms.gif rclxms.gif . Aurelio is on the left wing, we'll see how good he is there, and I guess it is difficult for Aurelio to displace Insua.

Let's go REDS!!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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Bring them.. But if they act like 'typical' devils, prepare to be thrown by everything we can find on the table.  biggrin.gif
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wat la this rafa.
now where is dossena going to play? tongue.gif
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Is Benayoun starting? I thought he was injured. I guess Rafa is going for attack, big time rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif . Aurelio is on the left wing, we'll see how good he is there, and I guess it is difficult for Aurelio to displace Insua.

Let's go REDS!!! notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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It's more like resting Riera, letting Aurelio gain match fitness so that both of them can start and play against Chelsea...

No Insua next match? cry.gif
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Aight. But they're not the loudass type so no worries ~ thumbup.gif
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dont worry, no matter how loud they are...they're never going to drown out all the reds.
heck, i think 10 reds can easily drown out 100 mancs tongue.gif rclxm9.gif biggrin.gif blush.gif whistling.gif


Added on September 30, 2009, 2:04 ameh SAF818...why rafa quote on the table lamp not there?

also another quote of rafa here.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 30 2009, 02:02 AM)
It's more like resting Riera, letting Aurelio gain match fitness so that both of them can start and play against Chelsea...

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May be so. Aurelio has good record against Chelsea. With Cech out, he might score that freakish goal again like last season. And Riera might be able to exploit the hole left by Bosingwa when he is going forward.
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We just need to see Aurelio's performance tonight before we make any conclusion who is the best between Insua and him for Chelsea's match.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 30 2009, 02:03 AM)
dont worry, no matter how loud they are...they're never going to drown out all the reds.
heck, i think 10 reds can easily drown out 100 mancs tongue.gif  rclxm9.gif  biggrin.gif  blush.gif  whistling.gif


Added on September 30, 2009, 2:04 ameh SAF818...why rafa quote on the table lamp not there?

also another quote of rafa here.
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later I update with scoreline of match together... Now watching Rubin kazan pawn Inter  laugh.gif
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Why no offside? doh.gif


Added on September 30, 2009, 3:22 am2-0 doh.gif

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that goal is suppose to be a lucas og
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stress.. come on REDS!!!
although i have strong faith in liverpool.. but i seriously doubt now.. whether they could stand against chelsea.. inconsistency hit us again. icon_question.gif


Added on September 30, 2009, 3:33 amoh on 2nd thoughts, i hope that IF Liverpool lose this one then pls win chelsea.. hopefully.....

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we play like shit....deserved to be behind
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What was that? Horrible first half. Poor passing. Come on Liverpool!!!
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There are 3 players not seen on field. Lucas, Aurelio and Insua.

Lucas - Keep losing possession.
Aurelio - Drawing back too much making attacking null.
Insua - Apart from stupid ref offside, he's pretty bad tonight.

Not to mention Carra and Skrtel fighting at the same spot, again and again. Benny with 'headless chicken' running changing spot with Kuyt making even their own team confused.

Fiorentina is better side for now. They close down with 3 people. Running non stop. Good passing and ball distribution. And 2 'lucky' goals.
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haihz..///wait for liverpool comeback...if play like 1st half...dun think we will win
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I don't think we're gonna win this.
in fact, I think we're gonna end this season with nothing if we continue to play like this shit. and I blame Rafa. forgive me for being straightforward
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Did Aurelio play at the center? Tactics for tonight is horrible.Benny was seen left, right ,center.Insua was all alone at left flank.Aurelio is playing Alonso's position.Lucas is having a tea break...Skrtel with his rubbish header again...Drop Skrtel/Carra...Try new pair..They just screw up again and again!
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big improvement is needed in the second half if we're going to get anything from this game.we were outclassed in the midfield.....
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Commentator said about us missing Masch, do we? YES WE DO! and please omit under-performed Lucas for now. But unfortunately he's injured..
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i blame rafa to put aurelio in midfield...come on..bring it riera & play with benayoun just below torress & gerrard at midfield
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I don't think we're gonna win this.
in fact, I think we're gonna end this season with nothing if we continue to play like this shit. and I blame Rafa. forgive me for being straightforward
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in the midfield, i think the correct term was... EVERYWHERE. no seriously, everywhere up middle down.
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It'd have been worse if Glenny din block Jovetic's shot...Poor defending and Skrtel just stood there , looking at the ball... doh.gif
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Juz sell him off!
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It's just a group stage game and you are already calling for Rafa's head? sweat.gif  shakehead.gif  doh.gif
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The important part is we win, no matter how the tactics were. So as long as we keep winning, I don't care how Rafa gonna put the players on the field.
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Lucas again? How many times we heard his name on the wrong side of stories?
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we certainly miss Alonso + Mascherano !!

and when they are gone, we dont have a proper backup...darn!
Benny passing was awful..Torres not getting support, and as we have seen in many matches before, he's being bullied by the defenders..

cant blame it all on Skrtel and Carra, they are doing a 5 man job..and unfortunately they cant cope with it

i dont trust Lucas, we have to put Gerrard down the midfield..bring in Riera or put Aurelio on the left, the full backs need help!
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QUOTE(bomberkenny @ Sep 30 2009, 03:45 AM)
think anything you like. I was disappointed almost every game this season. I like my team to win, and I can't think of any factors other than the tactician you all so highly relied
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Disappointed , yes , but I would only want the best for the team.Sacking Rafa gonna win us games? Look at Chelsea, they changed a new manager last season in Scolari and how they performed?Maybe we should change one manager for every match we lose...
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Lucas again? How many times we heard his name on the wrong side of stories?
Juz sell him off!
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in lucas we trust, or i trust(starting to lose faith edi)
axing rafa over a group stage game? doh.gif
and yeah we will not win anything if this kinda performance is wat we will be seeing in the future.

honestly, i dun care Rafa wanna win 6-1 or 1-0. i dun care he wan to play 3 or 4 strikers, i dun care we park the whole twin tower infront of the goal, so long as we can take down most of the match and important matches with a win.. whether we play beautifully or uglyly, i dun give a dam. vmad.gif

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Skrtel plays like shit...Take him out
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Jovetic falls at every chance he has..Poor Lucas..Innocent
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much better performance in the 2nd half too bad not lucky enuf to get any goal

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Jovetic falls at every chance he has..Poor Lucas..Innocent
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i'm not really feeling down about this defeat bcoz it's just CL group stage smile.gif
hope for better performance this weekend , YNWA
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i'm not really feeling  down about this defeat bcoz it's just CL group stage  smile.gif
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well, with tonite's loss...at least our record of conceding 10 straight goals from set pieces / dead ball situations is now broken.
so this shows that zonal marking isnt the problem, rather its our defenders thats the problem.
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Who say Lucas is innocent? every time he plays, the midfield cant function properly. Blame Lucas is the right choice.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 30 2009, 04:42 AM)
well, with tonite's loss...at least our record of conceding 10 straight goals from set pieces / dead ball situations is now broken.
so this shows that zonal marking isnt the problem, rather its our defenders thats the problem.
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Who say Lucas is innocent? every time he plays, the midfield cant function properly. Blame Lucas is the right choice.
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I said he is innocent for the fouls...Didn't mention one bit about midfield...

It's pretty obvious he is innocent.He came from the right of Jovetic, nick the ball away and Jovetic, with the least contacts, fall on the ground, hugging his legs...I bet if the referee is far away, he gonna roll around like *ahem rololdo ahem*

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Its just one of those night , we lose to Italians .. we've got long way to go, they must visit us at Anfield, im sure we gonna pass this round as easy as we did last season..remember one season we were bottom of the table and started blasting Besiktas 8-0, Marseille 4-0 Porto 4-1, we beat Arsenal 4-2 at Anfield, but unfortunately , yet again lost to Chelsea..

This is not the end in this competition..best yet to come..

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We are somehow lucky because this is 'just another group stage match', means we can bounce back later. If this is a BPL match? I wonder how many of you will be devastated with this result.

Everyone is to blame. Even Gerrard made simple mistakes such as poor first touch. Torres is dead because no support from midfield. Benny is lost. Lucas is back to his old form. Insua bad at defending or at crossing. Carra-Skrtel pair had gone from bad to worse. Others, worthless to mention.
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It's group match..lyon win 4-0 last night..even we only manage to win 1-0 at home..

Hopefully we can win over lyon next CL game..
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Lucas and Aurelio in midfield? How wrong can rafa be? If u gonna play suicidal, just put 4 striker upfront and pressing every single area...
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think anything you like. I was disappointed almost every game this season. I like my team to win, and I can't think of any factors other than the tactician you all so highly relied
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liverpool failed to score for the first time in CL game in two and a half year? woaah. i haven't heard about this statistics?

poor poor liverpool defence.

and how can we cope the season if unfortunately torres went out injured? sad.gif
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its not defensive failure 100%...its fiorentina player is a diver..period!
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its not defensive failure 100%...its fiorentina player is a diver..period!
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We were poor last night and we deserved the lost.

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didn't watched the match.

What on earth happened?
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from friendly matches till now..count la..how many matches we already lose..haiz..aquilani..pls..return back la..we big lost alonso.Then now aquilani injured..haiz.

Just amazing..LIVERPOOL lose 2-0..How can la like that..haiz vmad.gif

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QUOTE(darrengoh @ Sep 30 2009, 11:14 AM)
from friendly matches till now..count la..how many matches we already lose..haiz..aquilani..pls..return back la..we big lost alonso.Then now aquilani injured..haiz.

Just amazing..LIVERPOOL lose 2-0..How can la like that..haiz vmad.gif
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Kyrgliakos is still nowhere to be seen. I wonder what's exactly going on with Rafa.


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Watched the whole match yesterday....

Seems like our side lost mainly cause we have no drive, no spirit and no determination to win this one. Our players don't even bother to win loose balls and run for it. Our players were like "Meh, Its still the group stages. I'm more focused on Chelsea this weekend, and Man U the next; so I'll keep myself injury free for those big matches." Seems like our boys are more focused on the BPL more...

Rarely see tackles coming in as well, Fiorentina did like over 9000 tackles, and we hardly put a foot in most of the times.

A Liverpool side without determination to win...so this shit happens. tongue.gif

But seriously, IF i were one of the players, I would feel that collecting 3 pts from the Chelsea now is more important than in the UCL group stages, so I would keep myself away from injury and exhaustion.
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I was wondering what type of mentality the team was going to adopt going into this game. If memory serves me Fiorentina have a piss poor record at home in Europe. Something like 1 win in 12 games, only scoring 3 goals or so. Having said that they have a good time against English opposition apparently. We also haven't loss a European Group tie in 22 months prior to this.

I'm going to summarise my thoughts:

Fullbacks
Did we play with any? How many times were we caught exposed in our wide area?

Defensive Midfield
Fabio Aurelio was the answer? No disrespect but he looked lost at sea after having just come back from a lengthy knee injury.

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It's simple. Rafa came in 2nd this morning. Fiorentina played wide and caught us napping at the back. They also cut off any supply to Gerrard and Torres. They pressed us in midfield and we had problems keeping possession. Don't let out second half performance fool you. They sat back daring us to bring the fight to them which is why we had so much possession.

It's been said that we always churn our Jekyll and Hyde performances and if anything we did reinforce that perception, or did we? I mean Hull have been piss poor this season and our demolition of them could have served as a mere smokescreen coming into this game against a side lying fourth in the Serie A, proving to be a different proposition altogether. Our first half performance as abysmal. I even caught Sebastian Frey playing Sudoku out of the corner of my eye in the first half.
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Sep 30 2009, 10:20 AM)
Watched the whole match yesterday....

Seems like our side lost mainly cause we have no drive, no spirit and no determination to win this one. Our players don't even bother to win loose balls and run for it. Our players were like "Meh, Its still the group stages. I'm more focused on Chelsea this weekend, and Man U the next; so I'll keep myself injury free for those big matches." Seems like our boys are more focused on the BPL more...

Rarely see tackles coming in as well, Fiorentina did like over 9000 tackles, and we hardly put a foot in most of the times.

A Liverpool side without determination to win...so this shit happens. tongue.gif

But seriously, IF i were one of the players, I would feel that collecting 3 pts from the Chelsea now is more important than in the UCL group stages, so I would keep myself away from injury and exhaustion.
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Well said mate...I agree with what you said actually....the boys took it as just another game, they didnt look pretty bummed out by the loss either, to be honest, if anyone is to shoulder the blame its our defense, our flanks were exposed too many times, Johnson left his position is defense to play higher up the pitch and expected Skrtel to mop up, Skrtel at right back? please....i think he played there once and had an awful of a game last season, apart from that they just didnt have the conviction to win the match, a

as the second half suggested we did improve but its too late, good to know at least that we still havent forgotten how to play a match,

our players got off scott free without any injuries, and i do expect us to play much much better this weekend against Chelsea, so if we are to pass judgement lets wait for this weekend to be over aye?
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Their heads are for the chelsea game me guess.
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Let's not make any excuses. we were pummeled by Fiorentina. The Chelsea game is still 4 days away.
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Speaking of Degen,

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Anyway guys, we deserve to lose but at the same time I think Jovetic falls way too easily... wink.gif
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Let's not make any excuses. we were pummeled by Fiorentina. The Chelsea game is still 4 days away.
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Sep 30 2009, 10:20 AM)
Watched the whole match yesterday....

Seems like our side lost mainly cause we have no drive, no spirit and no determination to win this one. Our players don't even bother to win loose balls and run for it. Our players were like "Meh, Its still the group stages. I'm more focused on Chelsea this weekend, and Man U the next; so I'll keep myself injury free for those big matches." Seems like our boys are more focused on the BPL more...

Rarely see tackles coming in as well, Fiorentina did like over 9000 tackles, and we hardly put a foot in most of the times.

A Liverpool side without determination to win...so this shit happens. tongue.gif

But seriously, IF i were one of the players, I would feel that collecting 3 pts from the Chelsea now is more important than in the UCL group stages, so I would keep myself away from injury and exhaustion.
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i agree with this...even i do not feel disappointed with this results...
ive not watch the game yesterday, but some of my friends said the passing was poor...well...i hope the players know what their doing...and improved what they had done yesterday...

i will start judging my team after ManU match....or maybe after Chelsea .(depends on the results)

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Our midfield was piss poor.The partnership of Lucas and Aurelio just sucks big time.Aurelio looks lost and Lucas was invisible.The left flank was left expose with only Insua guarding it.Who was our left midfielder again? Benny?Gerrard?I only saw both of them playing at the center.

The next game against chelsea is vital to close down the points between big four.It's well known fact that Chelsea have a great midfield partnership.If we play badly like how we did today, we gonna be losing the match even when they are losing 2 key players in the upcoming match...
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On the bright side, the match doesn't have any yellow card flying and our players leave the pitch unscathed. But morally, I think I shouldn't bring this up..
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I wonder how Skrtel gonna face Drogba with his current kind of form.Shaky throughout the match.Poor header to clear the balls, etc etc...
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Don't lose hope...Remember, Drogba can't beat Wigan as well...lol
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The worst in last night's game was the midfield area. They keep losing possession, no attempt to bring the ball forward, being pressed like crazy and too depending on centre attacking. This made our back exposed and looking at our Carra-Skrtel mistakes-prone partnership lately, Reina had little to do to defend from those 2 goals.

Disoriented, unorganized, low on morale, bad positioning, weak.
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QUOTE(GulaV @ Sep 30 2009, 12:16 PM)
The worst in last night's game was the midfield area. They keep losing possession, no attempt to bring the ball forward, being pressed like crazy and too depending on centre attacking. This made our back exposed and looking at our Carra-Skrtel mistakes-prone partnership lately, Reina had little to do to defend from those 2 goals.

Disoriented, unorganized, low on morale, bad positioning, weak.
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QUOTE(vreis @ Sep 30 2009, 12:18 PM)
Hence we're there for the taking since we're away as well  tongue.gif
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May be it was an overdue loss. So we can win at Chelsea. cool2.gif

The team looked as if they had no drive whatsoever, couldn't even string a decent passing game. May be their mind is set on Chelsea, we don't know. But this loss at Fiorentina can be recovered in future CL matches, but a loss this Sunday may spell the end of the league.
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aiyaaa... kalah oooo... chelsea to come this Sunday. how? Aurelio again to start like last night against Chelsea? haha, please Rafa, no jokes!!! usually Rafa's a tactician for CL matches. what happened? hmmm.. Aurelio.. Aurelio.. sigh..
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Shock defeat for me..
I failed to wake up to watch the game...
Buy judging from the highlights i saw from youtube, i think insua puts that scorer into onside....
If Insua was a second faster, it will be an offside for that guy...
Btw whose that guy? Jovetic? I think he is hot...Not his appearances, but he is the wonderkid at Football Manager right? hahah..
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QUOTE(GulaV @ Sep 30 2009, 03:38 AM)
Not to mention Carra and Skrtel fighting at the same spot, again and again.
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This problem keep on repeating, no proper understanding since start of season. Skrtel head injured previously was because of this, last week Hull's goal also the same, Carra went to the ball which Skrtel head poorly, which eventually both defender at the same area and Hull's player got open goal to shoot at as Carra was with Skrtel.

Defense need to sort out, it is not like water tight previously, prompt leaking goal.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 30 2009, 03:40 PM)
This problem keep on repeating, no proper understanding since start of season. Skrtel head injured previously was because of this, last week Hull's goal also the same, Carra went to the ball which Skrtel head poorly, which eventually both defender at the same area and Hull's player got open goal to shoot at as Carra was with Skrtel.

Defense need to sort out, it is not like water tight previously, prompt leaking goal.
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Not to mention during Hull game, Carra went attack ball that being played in even though clearly Gerrard is there to head clear. So is it really misunderstanding or rather Carra distrust anyone in his area which is defence.
Looking back at Hull goal, me thinks that Carra's the one to blame for rushing to Skrtel area even though skrtel was there to head clear which leaves geovanni free. Sometime me really think carra tried to do too much hence creating confusions.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 30 2009, 03:40 PM)
This problem keep on repeating, no proper understanding since start of season. Skrtel head injured previously was because of this, last week Hull's goal also the same, Carra went to the ball which Skrtel head poorly, which eventually both defender at the same area and Hull's player got open goal to shoot at as Carra was with Skrtel.

Defense need to sort out, it is not like water tight previously, prompt leaking goal.
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I think i can explain this, have you noticed that Carra plays as a LCB more these days than a RCB? RB swapped them over this season for some reason, hence the reason why you see Carra does end up more near towards Skrtel, e.g Hull's goal that was Skrtel had it covered had Carra remained at his position at that time, the ball would have definitely been cleared, Carra being pre-dominantly right footed tends to drift back to the position which he grew accustomed to which is the right side of the central defence, you dont see Skrtel drifiting out of position rite?

I guess its more towards Carra getting used to his new position than anything else
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I think i can explain this, have you noticed that Carra plays as a LCB more these days than a RCB? RB swapped them over this season for some reason,  hence the reason why you see Carra does end up more near towards Skrtel, e.g Hull's goal that was Skrtel had it covered had Carra remained at his position at that time, the ball would have definitely been cleared, Carra being pre-dominantly right footed tends to drift back to the position which he grew accustomed to which is the right side of the central defence, you dont see Skrtel drifiting out of position rite?

I guess its more towards Carra getting used to his new position than anything else
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You may have a point, but still it explain only partially the reason of confusion. Using my eg, clearly Carra can see Gerrard is focussing in heading clear, still he rush toward Gerrard to clear as well which nearly cause the same incident as 'Skrtel Jaw'. Even when he broke Skrtel jaw, Carra was drifting from right (according to u, his better side) to left & collide with him, which really make me loss for words.
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or is it a classic case of trying too hard?
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QUOTE(vreis @ Sep 30 2009, 04:30 PM)
You may have a point, but still it explain only partially the reason of confusion. Using my eg, clearly Carra can see Gerrard is focussing in heading clear, still he rush toward Gerrard to clear as well which nearly cause the same incident as 'Skrtel Jaw'. Even when he broke Skrtel jaw, Carra was drifting from right (according to u, his better side) to left & collide with him, which really make me loss for words.
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Really? hmm probaby i might need to watch that incident again, but it was blatantly obvious in the Hull match that Carra thought he played as a RCB when Skrtel is already there to head that ball away, leaving Geovanni free hence that goal,

this has nothing to do with my above statement but i note that some of us are blaming Skrtel for most of the defensive lapses for most of the conceded goals which i feel is very unjust

You got to wonder why on earth Rafa made that swap in the first place?
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It really make me wonder if this is the cause.

QUOTE(triple02 @ Sep 30 2009, 04:43 PM)
Really? hmm probaby i might need to watch that incident again, but it was blatantly obvious in the Hull match that Carra thought  he played as a RCB when Skrtel is already there to head that ball away, leaving Geovanni  free hence that goal, 

this has nothing to do with my above statement but i note that some of us are blaming Skrtel for most of the defensive lapses for most of the conceded goals which i feel is very unjust

You got to wonder why on earth Rafa made that swap in the first place?
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agger's coming back, reckon it'll solve the LCB problem?
I dun think so since clearly RB prefers Carra-Skrtel axis. But I reckon, it's time to rest Skrtel, he's not convincing lately. Maybe still feeling the after effect of Carra wrath biggrin.gif
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Who say Lucas is innocent? every time he plays, the midfield cant function properly. Blame Lucas is the right choice.
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Again, blaming a player doesn't make much difference. Football, as you already know is not an individual sport. Alright, lets say Lucas played badly. Aren't there like 9 other players on the field to make up for his mistakes. Did that happen? Nope. Why? Because every other player performed badly as well. Of yesterday's game, I feel that Carragher, Torres and Lucas were the only ones working hard. Lucas did lose possession quite a bit though. Gerrard wasn't in the game apart from several switch passes and a few forward dashes. Other were plain disappointing, especially Skrtel, Johnson, Benny and Aurelio. Skrtel was really poor, as already mentioned by several forumers already. Johnson on the other hand didn't seem to interested in the game. He didn't even sprint for a few 50-50 balls in which if Carra was in the exact situation, the opposition player would be on the ground.
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Yes, Skrtel maybe need a rest to refresh himself

And last year I prefered Carra-Agger over Carra-Skrtel cause Agger can contribute to long shots and free kicks as well. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:14 PM)
Yes, Skrtel maybe need a rest to refresh himself

And last year I prefered Carra-Agger over Carra-Skrtel cause Agger can contribute to long shots and free kicks as well. biggrin.gif
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Don't forget, Agger is good at dribbling too smile.gif

I'd rather have Agger at left-back, and leave Skrtel and Carra in the center.
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QUOTE(Playboy21 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:16 PM)
Don't forget, Agger is good at dribbling too smile.gif

I'd rather have Agger at left-back, and leave Skrtel and Carra in the center.
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No, he cant overlap well, else we don't have to bring in dossena last year. Ever wonder why RB nvr put agger there?
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 30 2009, 04:39 PM)
or is it a classic case of trying too hard?
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Or classic case of the opponents playing damn well? I haven't seen the match or full highlights yet but the buildup that led to the first goal was brilliant. Slick one touch stuff.

This Sunday is gonna be a tight match. I'm praying that Mascherano is fit and on form for Chelsea. If we are to rely on our attacking fullbacks, we are gonna need more from Masch to provide cover for CBs.

And LunaCry, ask yourself who was in midfield for Hull City, Burnley, Bolton, West Ham, Stoke, and last season Newcastle home, Manu away etc? doh.gif
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can i know wether is prince faisal bought 50% of liverpool stake?
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QUOTE(vreis @ Sep 30 2009, 04:53 PM)
It really make me wonder if this is the cause.
I don't blame skrtel, I blame Carra tongue.gif
agger's coming back, reckon it'll solve the LCB problem?
I dun think so since clearly RB prefers Carra-Skrtel axis. But I reckon, it's time to rest Skrtel, he's not convincing lately. Maybe still feeling the after effect of Carra wrath biggrin.gif
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I think his jaw isnt at the right place laugh.gif as for Agger i would say that he is way short of match fitness so tragically Carra will still be playing as a LCB, heck even Krgiakos played LCB against Bolton and could do the job there too late for any major personnel changes in defence plus Drogba is another beast altogether, Skrtel+Carra cant contain him you gotta wonder how well will our Greek giant will fare against Drogba if he's given the chance hmm.gif

easier why not just put things how they were used to be, Fantasy Rafa aye?
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QUOTE(yjkwan92 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:20 PM)
can i know wether is prince faisal bought 50% of liverpool stake?
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No because there ain't ppl here that work for the prince or those yanks laugh.gif

QUOTE(triple02 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:21 PM)
I think his jaw isnt at the right place  laugh.gif  as for Agger i would say that he is way short of match fitness so tragically Carra will still be playing as a LCB, heck even Krgiakos played LCB against Bolton and could do the job there too late for any major personnel changes in defence plus Drogba is another beast altogether, Skrtel+Carra cant contain him you gotta wonder how well will our Greek giant will fare against Drogba if he's given the chance  hmm.gif

easier why not just put things how they were used to be, Fantasy Rafa aye?
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Personally i think Drogba will skin the Greek guy since other than strength, he also got speed which the greek giants sorely miss.
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2-0 lost wtf vmad.gif

i gotta feeling...top 4 epl will be change this season...
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all said and done ... Liverpool lost early this morning. Period!

We can use the excuse, we'll get them on the return match.
But the point is, we need every single point from each match we play.
No point in talking we miss Alonso in the midfield and such ...
Rafa have to make do and make decision based on the players available at the moment.

Which is important now? CL or EPL?

If we want to make sure we win EPL this year, then do you think Rafa is doing the right thing at the moment?

We need to win every single matches ... no excuses.
Or else we'll be saying "This is our year" at the begining of season - year after year.

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I rewatch the last 2 games..Focus on Skrtel's header and I can only come out with a word... GIRLY...

Even Lucas' header is further than his...With that kind of body, I expect better header from Skrtel.He should start practicing his header and stop that girly header of his... doh.gif
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Well I didnt really expect Fiorentina to play it to Liverpool like that yesterday. They played better than Juve, Milan or even Inter ever could in the Champions League for this season. I give extra credit to them.
But even the lost to the violas, I believe we still have a good and fighting chance against Chelsea this weekend.
Counting on Insua to do well in training and fight for his rightful left back position i hope, sols?
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Sep 30 2009, 10:33 PM)
Well I didnt really expect Fiorentina to play it to Liverpool like that yesterday. They played better than Juve, Milan or even Inter ever could in the Champions League for this season. I give extra credit to them.
But even the lost to the violas, I believe we still have a good and fighting chance against Chelsea this weekend.
Counting on Insua to do well in training and fight for his rightful left back position i hope, sols?
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QUOTE(whoopa @ Sep 30 2009, 11:28 PM)
sorry to come in to kacau. which one of you guys are from myrawk?
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Added on October 1, 2009, 3:45 amguess who got injured after 20mins with a suspected groin injury?
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saw the match and sad to say we did get what we deserved.

but on a brighter note, i have been watching Fiorentina for awhile now and i find they are actually a very good team, not so much that we were shite, but more that they played very very fluid football that created the chances in the first 45 mins. I will not harp at the fact our guys didn't do well, no point.

instead i would give full credit to an italian side that is fast becoming a force to be reckon with at italy and in the CL. the confidence in them is soaring and if there were 2 teams in the group that would progress, i would say its Fiorentina and us.

we have to pick up where we lost and that is all that can be hoped for when we faced one of the biggest challenge this sunday.
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I think our midfiled is dead. Even so they scored 2-0 if our midfield is strong we can still produce maybe late 2-2 draw? I have strong believe when aquilani is fully fit, he should pair macherano in the middle and gerard behind torres.
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I told all of you before, don't underestimate Fiorentina. All the discussion was about Chelsea only..No one want to talk about Fiorentina..

Yes they are indeed a very good team. They are consistent, making many wins for all I know except for one unfortunate loss against Lyon. And looking at the results (Liv 1-0 Deb, Lyo 4-0 Deb, Lyo 1-0 Fio, Liv 0-2 Fio), the conclusion is, Lyon is the strongest team in the group. So either we have to step up in our game or another loss is inevitable.

Enough talk about CL. Now back to our main priority, which is BPL against Chelsea this Sunday. How can we improve and what lack Chelsea have that we can exploit..
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:14 PM)
Yes, Skrtel maybe need a rest to refresh himself

And last year I prefered Carra-Agger over Carra-Skrtel cause Agger can contribute to long shots and free kicks as well. biggrin.gif
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I am always a fan of Daniel Agger..
He holds the ball well...Deosnt dwell with the ball...His footwork is good too...
And yeah, his trademark CB OVERLAPPING RUN... (runs > enemy fears > enemy close down > provide space for gerrard n torres > goal !!)
FINALLY !....his sweet left foot too ! drool.gif

QUOTE(apex_ikan @ Sep 30 2009, 06:06 PM)
2-0 lost wtf

i gotta feeling...top 4 epl will be change this season...
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What the hell is wrong with you? Posting like that..
I dont know why people are good at negative thinking...
I would like to know what will you post, moments after Liverpool winning the match against HullCity 6-1... shakehead.gif
And yeah, back to your thinking, yes we lost 2-0...but its a Champions League k...
Whatz wrong with the TOP 4 EPL ?
Anyway, we do have 4 teams in a champions league group nod.gif

QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 30 2009, 10:13 PM)
I rewatch the last 2 games..Focus on Skrtel's header and I can only come out with a word... GIRLY...

Even Lucas' header is further than his...With that kind of body, I expect better header from Skrtel.He should start practicing his header and stop that girly header of his...
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 30 2009, 10:35 PM)
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Insua FTW, Aurelio can warm the bench!
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Haha you again 818 !!! rclxms.gif
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maybe agger will not play match against blues. but he will definitely fit during a clash with devils next 2 weeks. same goes to aquilani.
i told u all already before, carra n skrtel can't play together, their communication each other was just too bad, skrtel header was too soft and gurlish.
carra is going thru his bad performance at this moment.
let's pray for agger, hope he can play against blues although it is imposibble for him to get 100% match fit.
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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Oct 1 2009, 12:38 PM)
maybe agger will not play match against blues. but he will definitely fit during a clash with devils next 2 weeks. same goes to aquilani.
i told u all already before, carra n skrtel can't play together, their communication each other was just too bad, skrtel header was too soft and gurlish.
carra is going thru his bad performance at this moment.
let's pray for agger, hope he can play against blues although it is imposibble for him to get 100% match fit.
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Why not put Khali in? He's big, good in the air, and won 90% of 50-50 header against Bolton last time didn't he?
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QUOTE(skydive @ Oct 1 2009, 12:45 PM)
Why not put Khali in? He's big, good in the air, and won 90% of 50-50 header against Bolton last time didn't he?
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khali is a gud player actually. but afraid he can't cope with drogba's speedy dribbling and anelka pace as well.
but depends on rafa decision. he may know who is better for CB position. blues attacking is superb and rafa need
to think carefully to choose the best line-up.
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Carra will mark Drogba...No choice, because Carra has the most experience among the defensive line... (Void Khali for a while first:P)

Skrtel meanwhile have to mark Anelka...Thou its hard, but no choice again..
Mascherano, Reira and Kuyt has a lot to do against Chelsea...Tracking back is needed ...

Btw, wont be shock to see Gerrard playing at the middle instead of behind Torres..
Remember what Essien did to shut Gerrard off...? Man to man marking...
Once Gerrard is playing in the middle, Essien dragged away, show time !
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 30 2009, 10:35 PM)
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Insua FTW, Aurelio can warm the bench!
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insua costed us the 1st goal....he was behind the defensive line...if not that fiorentina dude wudve been offside... icon_rolleyes.gif
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How Liverpool won bank sponsor deal

By Bill Wilson
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The commercial marriage between Liverpool FC and its shirt sponsor, Danish brewer Carlsberg, has been one of the most enduring in sport, having been first signed in 1992.

So it came as something of a surprise when the Anfield club announced that from next season, 2010/11, global bank Standard Chartered would be taking over the role.

The record sponsorship deal for the club will see the bank pay £20m a season to appear on the front of shirts worn by star players such as Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard.

The deal came as a leaked club investment prospectus showed that earlier this year, Liverpool had forecast earnings of £14.2m a season if it had retained Carlsberg as sponsor.

'Very optimistic'

So the new deal with Standard Chartered, which comes into force on 1 July 2010, represents a healthy increase in commercial revenues for the Premier League club.

The driving force behind it was commercial director Ian Ayre, who joined the club two years ago to beef up its sponsorship and merchandising revenues.



"Renewal of a deal is always important - but it is much easier to renew a partnership than to change one," Mr Ayre said, referring to the sponsor switch.

"We were very optimistic in Liverpool, even though the credit crunch had affected the number of potential partners out there," he told the BBC at a Sports Marketing 360 event.

"Last year we made the conscious decision to prepare for a longer period than usual when it came to selling our [sponsorship] property.

"We were also very selective when we went to the market - that is a changing approach, not just in our sport but in others.

"And when we started consultations with Standard Chartered, it was not about us, it was about them - what could we do to give them best value to drive customers to them over four years?"

'Very engaged'

Mr Ayre, who was previously chief executive of Total Sports Asia in Malaysia, has been tasked by the club with developing the LFC brand internationally, particularly in Asia.

Ian Ayre, commercial director of Liverpool FC (left) and Peter Sands, Group chief executive of Standard Chartered

So the deal is a particularly good fit for both parties, with the bank having a high profile and thousands of employees in the region - which helps Liverpool's profile and potential commercial opportunities.

Meanwhile, Standard Chartered will hope to make inroads and sell its products to the millions of LFC fans in Asia and around the world.

"We drew them in and got them excited about what we had to offer," said Liverpool born-and-bred Mr Ayre.

"Before we did the deal, we had sessions with them and they started making various suggestions, saying, 'We can do this' - they were very engaged."

Fan details

Mr Ayre also said that before going to the market with its sponsorship opportunity, Liverpool had spent a lot of time and money and research.

"The days of a generic shirt sponsorship promotion are gone," said Mr Ayre, a former chief executive and chairman of Huddersfield Town FC.

"Brands want to see how you can help them access what is relevant to them in different parts of the world."

He said that football clubs such as Liverpool also now worked more closely with commercial partners in achieving mutual benefits.

"For our summer tour tour in Asia - a big market for some of our partners - we spent a lot of time planning and discussing what our partners wanted to achieve on top of branding and media exposure," he said.

"In Singapore and Thailand, we sold 150,000 tickets and every ticket was bought in an store owned by [Liverpool's kit maker] Adidas or a bar where Carlsberg was represented. It achieved real footfall for our partners.

"It also gave us a chance to gather information about who the consumer is, the chance to capture their data, and go for further engagement with them."

'Brand recognition'

And new sponsors Standard Chartered have an equally clear vision about what the deal means for them.

"We see many opportunities to continue growing our business, particularly as Asia, Africa and the Middle East are emerging from the global downturn more quickly than the West," said group chief executive Peter Sands.

"This sponsorship will drive a step change in brand recognition in our key markets and will provide an additional catalyst for our business growth."

The bank believes the deal will help it drive business growth through access to new customer groups, new marketing channels and through Liverpool-branded products and services.

In addition, there is the "special experiences" aspect of a partnership with a world-famous club such as Liverpool.

The bank will be able to offer unique experiences for both its clients and staff, such as access to Liverpool tours and players.

Other positives of the deal for Standard Chartered include conveying its confidence in itself, both internally for staff consumption and to the wider financial world.

"We are proud to be associated with football - a sport with a global following of one billion people - and a consistent world-class club like Liverpool," said Mr Sands.

Global appeal

It is understood Standard Chartered initially decided to sponsor a football team and only then - after speaking to a number of clubs - decided to go with Liverpool.

Among the reasons, apart from its strong history and trophy record, was the huge potential fan base it offered to the bank.

One estimate has put the LFC following at as high as 130 million fans across 16 major markets - including China (58m), India (6m), Thailand (5m), Malaysia (2m), Japan (2m) and South Africa (6m), all of countries of interest to the bank.


But Mr Ayre is not swayed by such figures, which, if correct, would also offer huge commercial opportunities for the football club.

"For me, it is about data capture," he says. "Some clubs talk about having so many millions of fans around the world.

"But I don't subscribe to that thinking. Until you have got the names of these fans, know who they are and what they want, then it is very difficult.

"It is not so difficult when it comes to Merseyside and the UK, but in the wider context, it is a global challenge."

Meanwhile, it appears that Carlsberg, so long synonymous with the Liverpool shirt, is not totally out of the picture, with discussions continuing about how the relationship will look after this season.

"Both parties see lots of opportunities to continue together," said Mr Ayre.

"I would be very disappointed if Liverpool and Carlsberg did not stay together in some form."


Source: BBC News

2 million Liverpool fans in Malaysia only. Hmmmm .....


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