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post Sep 24 2009, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Sep 24 2009, 11:03 AM)
the thing is, Carra and Gerrard are in our hearts already. They played their hearts out the season before and the seasons before before.  laugh.gif
Lucas? We gave him alot of football time already. He's bound to get better!  whistling.gif
Even a teen school player if he get the chance to play matches he will get better. whistling.gif
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But the thing is, all heart may not hide the players deficiency any longer. Look at Carra, how much longer do you think that his heart & soul may cover for his lack of speed or deficiency in general?
Lucas? he'll always be a player that divides opinion. From what I see, he'll no better than a squad player unlike Babel, who, if his potential is fully explored,will be a world class player. But sadly, for one reasons or another, it seems the coaches cant get key to his enormous potential.
That said, but every team need a water carrier to complement a genius, our best hope is Lucas can be the water carrier tongue.gif

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 24 2009, 11:11 AM)
I agree with most of your post with the exception of this statement. You don't need to be a great football player to rate one. Was Rafa ever that good as a player? What about Wenger? Ferguson? Ancelotti?
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Rafa was good enough for RM B team biggrin.gif
Wenger is a double Phd, so no time to play footie tongue.gif
Ferguson was a decent player while Ancelotti excelled in Milan & Parma midfield.
I always have this mentality that great coach was not a great player. Look at the mess that Maradona created with arguably one of the most gifted team in the world
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post Sep 24 2009, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 24 2009, 11:27 AM)
Dijimi Traore won the Champions League. Bernard Diomede won the World Cup  smile.gif
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Unlike them Ancelotti is one of the key performer in the team, even excel in other team like Parma. That cant be said with Traore & Diomede.
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post Sep 24 2009, 03:41 PM

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We should have sign van der Vaart nod.gif


Added on September 24, 2009, 3:42 pm
QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 24 2009, 03:01 PM)
Why all of a sudden Elano? doh.gif
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topic to discuss mah tongue.gif Actually me too think Elano is good player

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post Sep 24 2009, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(dfadzli @ Sep 24 2009, 04:47 PM)
Aquilani still not training..maybe still not fit for chelsea match
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Definitely wont be match fit even if he does recovers on time
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post Sep 25 2009, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 25 2009, 10:48 AM)
Tomorrow match 10pm, right? Ch? unsure.gif
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10pm Channel 813
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post Sep 30 2009, 10:50 AM

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Courts. Can buy bed, desk, bedframe tongue.gif
Somemore can get special promotion for whole set laugh.gif
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post Sep 30 2009, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(GulaV @ Sep 30 2009, 12:16 PM)
The worst in last night's game was the midfield area. They keep losing possession, no attempt to bring the ball forward, being pressed like crazy and too depending on centre attacking. This made our back exposed and looking at our Carra-Skrtel mistakes-prone partnership lately, Reina had little to do to defend from those 2 goals.

Disoriented, unorganized, low on morale, bad positioning, weak.
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Hence we're there for the taking since we're away as well tongue.gif
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post Sep 30 2009, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 30 2009, 03:40 PM)
This problem keep on repeating, no proper understanding since start of season. Skrtel head injured previously was because of this, last week Hull's goal also the same, Carra went to the ball which Skrtel head poorly, which eventually both defender at the same area and Hull's player got open goal to shoot at as Carra was with Skrtel.

Defense need to sort out, it is not like water tight previously, prompt leaking goal.
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Not to mention during Hull game, Carra went attack ball that being played in even though clearly Gerrard is there to head clear. So is it really misunderstanding or rather Carra distrust anyone in his area which is defence.
Looking back at Hull goal, me thinks that Carra's the one to blame for rushing to Skrtel area even though skrtel was there to head clear which leaves geovanni free. Sometime me really think carra tried to do too much hence creating confusions.
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QUOTE(triple02 @ Sep 30 2009, 04:05 PM)
I think i can explain this, have you noticed that Carra plays as a LCB more these days than a RCB? RB swapped them over this season for some reason,  hence the reason why you see Carra does end up more near towards Skrtel, e.g Hull's goal that was Skrtel had it covered had Carra remained at his position at that time, the ball would have definitely been cleared, Carra being pre-dominantly right footed tends to drift back to the position which he grew accustomed to which is the right side of the central defence, you dont see Skrtel drifiting out of position rite?

I guess its more towards Carra getting used to his new position than anything else
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You may have a point, but still it explain only partially the reason of confusion. Using my eg, clearly Carra can see Gerrard is focussing in heading clear, still he rush toward Gerrard to clear as well which nearly cause the same incident as 'Skrtel Jaw'. Even when he broke Skrtel jaw, Carra was drifting from right (according to u, his better side) to left & collide with him, which really make me loss for words.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 30 2009, 04:39 PM)
or is it a classic case of trying too hard?
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It really make me wonder if this is the cause.

QUOTE(triple02 @ Sep 30 2009, 04:43 PM)
Really? hmm probaby i might need to watch that incident again, but it was blatantly obvious in the Hull match that Carra thought  he played as a RCB when Skrtel is already there to head that ball away, leaving Geovanni  free hence that goal, 

this has nothing to do with my above statement but i note that some of us are blaming Skrtel for most of the defensive lapses for most of the conceded goals which i feel is very unjust

You got to wonder why on earth Rafa made that swap in the first place?
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I don't blame skrtel, I blame Carra tongue.gif
agger's coming back, reckon it'll solve the LCB problem?
I dun think so since clearly RB prefers Carra-Skrtel axis. But I reckon, it's time to rest Skrtel, he's not convincing lately. Maybe still feeling the after effect of Carra wrath biggrin.gif
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post Sep 30 2009, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Playboy21 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:16 PM)
Don't forget, Agger is good at dribbling too smile.gif

I'd rather have Agger at left-back, and leave Skrtel and Carra in the center.
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No, he cant overlap well, else we don't have to bring in dossena last year. Ever wonder why RB nvr put agger there?
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post Sep 30 2009, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(yjkwan92 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:20 PM)
can i know wether is prince faisal bought 50% of liverpool stake?
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No because there ain't ppl here that work for the prince or those yanks laugh.gif

QUOTE(triple02 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:21 PM)
I think his jaw isnt at the right place  laugh.gif  as for Agger i would say that he is way short of match fitness so tragically Carra will still be playing as a LCB, heck even Krgiakos played LCB against Bolton and could do the job there too late for any major personnel changes in defence plus Drogba is another beast altogether, Skrtel+Carra cant contain him you gotta wonder how well will our Greek giant will fare against Drogba if he's given the chance  hmm.gif

easier why not just put things how they were used to be, Fantasy Rafa aye?
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Personally i think Drogba will skin the Greek guy since other than strength, he also got speed which the greek giants sorely miss.
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post Oct 5 2009, 10:00 AM

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Actually I thought we are missing alonso calming influence & ability to dictate pace of game more than anything. For now, there's no one dictating the pace of the game & the midfielders seems like forever in chaos, that is dont know what to do with the ball. Even by pulling Stevie to midfield, he won't be able to have a calming influence since he's always like fast/rush irregardless of whether his midfield able to cope with his game.

BTW, can Stevie stop taking corners, they're like shite. He's more of attacking threat if he's in the box attacking corners
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QUOTE(Ken @ Oct 5 2009, 10:08 AM)
for the bold part, you first day watch football ?

2nd part is correct, should move on instead put blame on losing alonso ... in fact man united lost 2 star players compare pool 1
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1 star player & 1 star bench warmer whistling.gif
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QUOTE(iWeed @ Oct 5 2009, 05:57 PM)
and with Aquilani partnering with Gerrard.
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No. that will be suicidal to play 2 attacking minded CM. It'll also held back Gerrard attacking instinct since AA is attacking player
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post Oct 6 2009, 02:38 PM

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I believe it is more wise to have players that can interchangeable during games without disrupting the balance of team.
Prime eg is Benayoun on the left interchangeable with Gerrard behind Torres. By this, it will confuse the opposition.
Some pundit once said that Riquelme is impossible to mark,u put a marker to stick to him, he'll just drop deep into his on half to bore the marker to death. U put in zonal marking in midfield against him, he'll have a field day exploiting those gaps. Just like this, if ever Benny, Stevie & Aquilani can interchange successfully, then it is impossible to pinpoint markers against them which in turn disrupt the balance & shape of opposition.

BTW Matin Palermo just scored a 40m HEADERS shocking.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Oct 6 2009, 02:46 PM)
Yea, saw that.Now, he can put his reputation as "the guy who missed 3 penalties in one match" behind and replaced with "The man who scored a 38.9m header".  tongue.gif
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Thats like halfway line. Never thought that its possible. Alonso should try that to complete his halfway goals collection tongue.gif
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Oct 6 2009, 04:28 PM)
Sols, i hardly think that Johnson's a replacement for Arby. Johnson was (and still is, i suppose) the solution to our right back problem.
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In terms of attacking maybe, but in terms of defending, Arby still the more solid one, for now at least.
As I said, losing alonso disrupt the balance of our team unlike others. Say Man U, they may miss Ronaldo's goals but still they have enough players of quality to compensate for the lost of goals. While in our case, Alonso doesn't contribute much in terms of goals or even assist but he is the one that make our midfield thick, a calming influence if u might. Still we cant compensate for the void left by Alonso. Hence the chaotic mess in midfield + the void in right back when johnson is attacking made our side leaking goals.
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post Oct 7 2009, 11:08 AM

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ya, & i don't like any dirty linen to be aired in public. As a head he should know much better than that

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Actually for now & immediate future is the best chance for us to win the league. In few years time, Gerrard will be over 30, Carra will most likely ousted from 1st 11 while if RB is sacked, doubt Torres or Reina will stay, so i think its now or never since there isn't another Gerrard on the horizon. Furthermore, the main players is mostly in their prime now.
Notwithstanding, Gerrard & Torres keep on saying that winning medals is all they want. Do you think Torres will stay on if we underachieve? He already said that winning medals & trophies is his aim

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