Isn't the review about comparing from the same source?
Lossless audio really that much of a difference?, DD-TrueHD/DTS-HD MA vs DD/DTS
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 Sep 14 2009, 12:15 PM
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How come some of you comparing HD sound with 5.1 sound from different sources
Isn't the review about comparing from the same source? |
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Sep 14 2009, 04:59 PM
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Very often the difference is in the price. When we pay more for something, we expect it to be better and therefore we pay more closer attention to the detail then we otherwise would.
For me I never heard of Master audio so I cannot comment but from my experience with high bit rate DD and DTS, I cannot tell much difference at all. Anyway, I am more than happy with most mkv dts sound so no need to upgrade for now. Just mu opinion. |
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Sep 14 2009, 05:00 PM
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ouch.... pedasnya....
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Sep 14 2009, 05:57 PM
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This is like the argument during the early days of what is HD and what is Full HD Video and whether there is a difference between 720 and 1080. Some can see the difference, some say anything beyond 720 is microscopic difference. Technically there is a definite difference btw lossy and lossless, and whether you can hear the difference depends also on your decoder as well as speakers.
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Sep 14 2009, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Sep 14 2009, 05:57 PM) This is like the argument during the early days of what is HD and what is Full HD Video and whether there is a difference between 720 and 1080. Some can see the difference, some say anything beyond 720 is microscopic difference. Technically there is a definite difference btw lossy and lossless, and whether you can hear the difference depends also on your decoder as well as speakers. yeah maybe he use RM10 computer speaker..   not much difference between 64k MP3 and 96/24 audio.. |
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Sep 14 2009, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Sep 14 2009, 05:00 PM) ouch.... pedasnya.... who ask u eat chili  |
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Sep 14 2009, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Sep 14 2009, 10:02 AM) Those that I've heard the DVD to compare with: why need to compare to DVD?Band of Brothers Black Hawk Down Blade Runner Braveheart Cars Casino Royale Cast Away Close Encounters of the Third Kind The Day After Tomorrow Déjà Vu Die Hard 1-3 The Fifth Element Gladiator Hairspray Hulk ID4 Kill Bill King Kong Kung Fu Hustle The Matrix Trilogy Men In Black Monster's Inc. Pearl Harbor Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl Predator Speed Terminator 2: Judgment Day Top Gun Troy U-571 The Truman Show The Wedding Singer The X-Files: Fight the Future Yes, even those non-action movies has improvements from the lossy DVD. More as I remember. on BD also got it's own DD/DTS track wot.. just switch between lossless and normal lor.. |
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Sep 14 2009, 08:45 PM
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Hey guys,
Why you ppl gives bad ratings to Jamo speakers? Aren't they really that bad huh?? Some models can cause at least few grands..........BTW, I ain't the Jamo owner! |
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Sep 14 2009, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Sep 14 2009, 05:57 PM) This is like the argument during the early days of what is HD and what is Full HD Video and whether there is a difference between 720 and 1080. Some can see the difference, some say anything beyond 720 is microscopic difference. Technically there is a definite difference btw lossy and lossless, and whether you can hear the difference depends also on your decoder as well as speakers. The 720P and 1080P debate is different because it was comparing whether one could see the diff on a 37" or 42" TV. As TVs get bigger the eyes can see the diff.For audio, it is not as straight forward as the current quality has almost reached the limit of what our ears are capable of differentiating. So it is often the mixing that might now make a bigger difference than the bitrate. Like some people say a very good mixing of DD or DTS 5.1 might sometimes sound better than a HD Audio if it's not properly mixed. This post has been edited by Ngto: Sep 14 2009, 09:21 PM |
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Sep 14 2009, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 14 2009, 07:12 PM) why need to compare to DVD? True, just that whenever I buy a BD title that I already own the DVD, I like to compare the PQ so why not also the AQ. Just a habit of mine since I adopted to BD. on BD also got it's own DD/DTS track wot.. just switch between lossless and normal lor.. |
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Sep 15 2009, 01:53 PM
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PQ of 1080p MKV no fight with real BD lah...just tested and verified last night. The difference is immediately noticeable even on my ancient peasant 50" 720p fishtank.
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Sep 15 2009, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Sep 14 2009, 09:57 PM) True, just that whenever I buy a BD title that I already own the DVD, I like to compare the PQ so why not also the AQ. Just a habit of mine since I adopted to BD. i too like to compare. for fun.. normally i just compare with those 1080p mkv. i got one more big mkv file.. mayb can test out tonite.. QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 15 2009, 01:53 PM) PQ of 1080p MKV no fight with real BD lah...just tested and verified last night. The difference is immediately noticeable even on my ancient peasant 50" 720p fishtank. especially on anime 1080p.. dem noticeable.those days when u bought ur 50" it is only for elite.... time to upgrade la bos... This post has been edited by zerorulez: Sep 15 2009, 03:12 PM |
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Sep 15 2009, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Sep 15 2009, 03:11 PM) i too like to compare. for fun.. normally i just compare with those 1080p mkv. i got one more big mkv file.. mayb can test out tonite.. The dem bulb won't blow yet. especially on anime 1080p.. dem noticeable.those days when u bought ur 50" it is only for elite.... time to upgrade la bos...  Furthermore no reason for me to upgrade especially when I am sitting 13" away. 1080p or 720p won't make any difference to me on a 50".  |
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Sep 15 2009, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 15 2009, 03:14 PM) The dem bulb won't blow yet. same case with ar188 proj bulb... no need to buy long lasting product.. it will hinder ur upgrading will power.. Furthermore no reason for me to upgrade especially when I am sitting 13" away. 1080p or 720p won't make any difference to me on a 50". sud it be 13' ?  |
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Sep 15 2009, 03:25 PM
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Oops..ya...13'.
 If I strike lottery I will get 65" Panny V-silly. |
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Sep 15 2009, 03:31 PM
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and a very nice collection to add to ur new landed pg property...
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Sep 15 2009, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 15 2009, 01:53 PM) PQ of 1080p MKV no fight with real BD lah...just tested and verified last night. The difference is immediately noticeable even on my ancient peasant 50" 720p fishtank. Like that must reconsider my decision to buy HD media player. Or else wait for more m2ts to be available. |
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Sep 15 2009, 03:42 PM
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anybody knows how to play m2ts files on the bd60?
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Sep 15 2009, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 15 2009, 01:53 PM) PQ of 1080p MKV no fight with real BD lah...just tested and verified last night. The difference is immediately noticeable even on my ancient peasant 50" 720p fishtank. Yup, we did a comparison for my friend who never saw any BD before. It was The Fast and the Furious, immediately he realised what he's been missing all this while. Now he's eager to buy a BD player already. |
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Sep 15 2009, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 15 2009, 03:14 PM) The dem bulb won't blow yet. That's why you have to upgrade. At 13' away you should not be using 50". At least proj and 100" screen for you Furthermore no reason for me to upgrade especially when I am sitting 13" away. 1080p or 720p won't make any difference to me on a 50". |
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