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Lossless audio really that much of a difference?, DD-TrueHD/DTS-HD MA vs DD/DTS
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ar188
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 Sep 13 2009, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 13 2009, 08:56 PM) I have to admit I have never experienced lossless audio before and reading about all your boom boom pow biling balang reports here really is poisoning. So much so that I bought a HD Audio capable receiver although I was more than happy with my old one that can only do DD/DTS. (I have to admit there was a firesale then  ) Then yesterday, I had the opportunity to experience DTS-HD MA in SenQ as they were playing Fast and Furious 2 in one of their Jamo demo rooms. I have to say if memory serves me right, I cannot hear any difference at all comparing to my copy of DVD. I was let down on the spot, but thought maybe it was the speakers. Then I came back home and did some research on HD audio, and this article was very eye-opening (eardrum busting in this case): http://www.hemagazine.com/node/Dolby_TrueH...ncompressed_PCMSome of the excerpts from the article: and the finishing blow... What a bummer...  sure or not? even on stereo speakers via PS3 playing Blu-ray, switching from DD/DTS to TrueHD/LPCM/DTS-MA tracks.. the difference is there.. anyway you can join Rx330 gang.. he also can't hear the difference.. since can't hear, next time you visit, I pass you DVDs instead of my Blu-ray movies, anjua? |
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ar188
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Sep 13 2009, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 13 2009, 10:39 PM) No mah, just stating my experience and telling U what I read in the article. Or maybe those Jamo speakers in SenQ suck. I think RX commented with similar conclusion while using jamo as well..  |
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ar188
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Sep 13 2009, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(butter finger @ Sep 13 2009, 11:01 PM) The first time I auditioned HD audio was at a shop, a closed demo room. Consists of Onkyo 9XX (can't rmb), Pana Bd60, Mirage speaker setup and Velo CHT12. To my surprise, not impressive, tested with Diehard 4.0. But the guy said he hasn't set up the system yet, maybe...
Added on September 13, 2009, 11:03 pmSo are we saying that is the weakest link? Anyone tried with Wharfy Diamond 9 series? If not impressive then I have to garu kepala liao... I dunno.. even on Aego 2.1 system with RCA from Ps3 it sounds different when switching audio tracks to HD.. oh well, if can't hear difference also got good point, then just watch 1080p MKVs with DD/DTS audio should be fine, no need to waste money on blu-rays... my 2 cents.. |
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ar188
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Sep 13 2009, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 13 2009, 11:22 PM) Cannot lah...now I'm staying in a birdcage...wait till i move to my atap house first. Dem sian everyday also go look at the 1909 box...  how much you paid for the denon? 1.5k ? |
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ar188
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Sep 14 2009, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Sep 14 2009, 05:57 PM) This is like the argument during the early days of what is HD and what is Full HD Video and whether there is a difference between 720 and 1080. Some can see the difference, some say anything beyond 720 is microscopic difference. Technically there is a definite difference btw lossy and lossless, and whether you can hear the difference depends also on your decoder as well as speakers. yeah maybe he use RM10 computer speaker.. not much difference between 64k MP3 and 96/24 audio.. |
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ar188
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Sep 14 2009, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Sep 14 2009, 10:02 AM) Those that I've heard the DVD to compare with: Band of Brothers Black Hawk Down Blade Runner Braveheart Cars Casino Royale Cast Away Close Encounters of the Third Kind The Day After Tomorrow Déjà Vu Die Hard 1-3 The Fifth Element Gladiator Hairspray Hulk ID4 Kill Bill King Kong Kung Fu Hustle The Matrix Trilogy Men In Black Monster's Inc. Pearl Harbor Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl Predator Speed Terminator 2: Judgment Day Top Gun Troy U-571 The Truman Show The Wedding Singer The X-Files: Fight the Future Yes, even those non-action movies has improvements from the lossy DVD. More as I remember. why need to compare to DVD? on BD also got it's own DD/DTS track wot.. just switch between lossless and normal lor.. |
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ar188
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Sep 15 2009, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 15 2009, 04:47 PM) The MKV I compared to is over 10GB and released by a famous "scene" group. So how?  HD audio also you can't hear difference play uncompressed BDMV/M2TS for what? , better stick to MKV la. |
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ar188
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Sep 15 2009, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Sep 15 2009, 06:31 PM) later u can grab his 1909...at half price.. sneaky..  dowan.. I want 1910 or even 1610.. if want to get , must get XX10 new series mah.. |
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ar188
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Sep 15 2009, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 15 2009, 08:05 PM) Aiihh....kena pijak again for buying discounted items...  not cheap also? |
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