On bad days, I'd be on the floor after sneezing as well. 

I'd love to visit thay gym sometime. Heh. 

should I consume cytogainer before or after workout ? or maybe my off day ? thanks

I would too, but I'd probably get chased out with pitchforks and torches after a few minutes there.

I'm a schlub (but thanks).  Conversely, Darklight looked like he could've beaten up everyone at the restaurant.

Drop a line next time you guys hit up Terry's gym, I think it would be fun to tag along.

i am very new to body building or even gym. i do not sign up with any personal trainer. Below is my workout program.

Monday : Chest -> followed by Back -> then Cardio (15 minutes elliptical trainer + 5 minutes rowing)
Tuesday : Legs -> Abs -> Cardio (20 mins treadmill)
Wednesday : Biceps -> Triceps -> Cardio (15 mins elliptical trainer + 5 mins bike)
Thursday : Legs -> Abs -> Cardio (20 mins treadmill
Friday : Shoulder -> Cardio (15 mins elliptical trainer + 5 mins rowing + 5 mins bike)
Saturday : Legs -> Abs

is my programe ok? Should i do weight training 1st before cardio exercise? Or should do cardio 1st?

also, somebody said the combination should be: 1) Back + Bicep, 2) Chest + Tricep, 3) Shoulder + Abs. i am very confused now. Which combination is more effective?

Hope the expects here can reply. thanks.

i dunno y i like the idea of cardio in the morning or afternoon then weights at night time
haha
but only during cutting phase

Ive already bulked enough and now i want to enter the cutting stage. Just remain doing all the exercise like normal and do cardio right?

I tot Strength is size.
Care to elaborate between Strength and muscle hyperthrophy?

usually i do my cardio in the afternoon and weights at nite or i swap the timing depending on my time at work
mostly now i do cardio at nite cuz more time (burn 1000-1500 kcal per session) while maintain volume based workout for weights...

cardio morning very rare unless i run at the park
burn 1000-1500kcal ok ke darkie?
i counted my caloric intake per day is around 2500-3000kcal with concentration on high protein low carb and animal pak

i thought powerlifting is a different thing altogether?
u can post whatever questions in the powerlifting thread bro


what darkie is saying, use your guts and common sense when u do your weights
there's no right or wrong cuz i always think its all crap when someone says "the only to get big / strong etc etc is to do xxx kind of way of training..." unless of course such things are common and obvious
different people different orientation and focus
i believe, just like what darkie said in bb thread v3 or v4 that there is no absolution in bb'ing
unless ur talking about powerlifting cuz i have no idea how to start on that cuz its a different thing dah

pizza is the best resource guy

I'd be interested in finding out how many people actually use good form during their lifts (regardless of where you stand on the hi/low reps/weight/etc.).

I TRY to.

Hello sirs, this is my other deadlift video, any comment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQbb-PFibp8

Thank you, I was trying to do the jerk like you did in the video, or are those unnecessary and the weight is too light for me I think?

I forgot how crazily strong darkie was... so inferior already lol.

I've been eye-ing this this called Fat Gripz.
can see at: www.fatgripz.com
basically its turning your db/bb into thick bars for better grip development.
thinking of getting one myself.
anyone here heard of it or tired it?

want to ask..

when cutting with -ve calories to lose fat, its almost (or is) impossible to gain muscle at the same time.
but is it possible to gain strength at the same time as losing fat? with lifting weights/strength training while in -ve calorie mode

I find it real funny how the only people who criticize your physique are the people who don't HAVE a physique. Like at school today, 2 guys were saying my arms weren't in good shape and I have to cut more because to them, apparently I'm fat. Hilarious thing is, they both had twig arms and bellies on them.

Wouldn't a thicker bar puts less strain on the grip and and wrist?

still remember terry's ultimate gym and the old alpha gym pakai PVC grips for dumbbells
alms hurt like hell especially shoulder presses last time
now at FF all nice nice...air conditioning really mess things up...thats why gotta cardio about 10-20mins then lift weights so that the sweat breaks and i can really breathe

just now kene comment by one of the trainers when i was doing dumbbell curls using eccentrics at 4113 maximum of 12.5kg's dumbbell (after 3 full sets of 7.5kg, 10kg, then 12.5kg...yeah yeah its puny) with him saying im weak cuz with my body size (nampak je besar in clothes but really its just packed with stubborn fats) i should be curling 20kgs
adoi la...how do i tell these people off eh

And next time, just drop the dumbbell on his feet, and say 'oops sorry im weak, couldnt hold onto the dumbbell'.

They're all scared shitless of you, that's why.

My thoughts exactly. I hardly ever talk when I get into the gym. (Except to myself, that is. )

The occasional 'just 3 more sets', '5 more reps'. That kinda stuff. 

For me it's usually with squats. Heh.