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post Nov 17 2009, 11:43 AM

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The more you avoid the squats saying it's a knee problem, the more it isn't going to go away. There's a reason why things such as a 1/4 squats, box squats, atg squats, half squats, eccentric pin squats, squats from bottom up are used.

You don't have to go heavy in fact, you can always do between 16-20 repetitions with an empty bar and focus on standing up straight, and not round the buttocks up thus using the hamstrings (A LOT of ppl do that)
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post Nov 17 2009, 12:15 PM

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A lot of people, even in Pushmore that I've seen, round up. Meaning, it looks as if they are standing up, but they go backwards instead of upwards. Then their torso position has 3 angles. Start angle, then midway, then finishing angle.

My torso if I am at the lowest position and my angle's at 60 degrees, all the way till before lockout, I'll ensure it's at 60 degrees.

It's one of those things you'll get after seeing hundreds of hours of squatting and your own squatting too.
Another way to ensure this, is by pushing against the weights while descending. As in, don't let the weights drive you in, rather you drive against the weights and control the descend. I've seen too many people control until 3/4 squat and just a second before they hit depth, they lose tightness and then have the knees in, torso haywire, butt sideways.


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post Nov 17 2009, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 17 2009, 12:25 PM)
that being said, when performing squat, what coaching cues do you give ?

So what you are trying to say is the bar should stay centered at mid-foot. Keep your muscles tight ALL THE WAY for elastic energy. Don't go down too fast. Hips and shoulder rise at the same pace. maintain back angle during descent. stay tight. Do not let knee travel forward and knee caving in/collapsing inwards ?

thanks for your time and great weightlifting article!
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I can't even remember all that when coaching. It takes a few seconds to think it up. So the cues are.

Depending on the lifter's torso angle and body lengths it could be ;

- Chest up in the fu(king sky
- Look forward
- Tight. DOWN! Tight tight tight tight!
- UP!

Or it could be

- Chest down, look in front or downwards
- TIGHT! Down slow.
- Drive up

Sometimes I have to yell "Don't be afraid of the bar, if you're afraid it'll kill you, then it'll kill you. It's fucking 150KG'S not 500KG fool!"

Added on November 17, 2009, 1:11 pmA lot of people tend to kinda like "butt swing" up when they have knee injuries. I just fight against it.

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post Nov 17 2009, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(zaxxshoxx @ Nov 17 2009, 02:36 PM)
bro, planning to check out the new gym @ b beruang today. month plus x pump. hahahaha. where u selalu train?
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I usually train in a private gym. Later going to try seeing the place after my midterms. Probably train there tomorrow just for fucts.
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post Nov 17 2009, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Nov 17 2009, 02:01 PM)
Training Session #1(MONDAY)       
-Dynamic stretching                             
-Barbell front squat                           
-Dumbell incline press                                             
-Seated rows                                                 
-Walking lunges                                       
-Triceps rope pulldown                                               
-Dumbbell side bends                                                           
-L-lateral raise                                                           



Training Session #2(WEDNESDAY)     
-Dynamic stretching                   
-Decline dumbbell press                 
-Lats pulldown           
-Split squats                     
-Standing military press           
-Dumbbell row   
-Woodchops   
-Scarecrows         

Training Session #3(FRIDAY)
-Dynamic stretching
-Conventional deadlift
-Board press
-One-legged Romanian deadlifts
-Barbell bent-over row 
-21's
-Prone and side planks
-Reverse cable fly
Need to learn some of them tho!

Gimme your opinions?!
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I'd rather;

Back Squat : 5x12-15 (Since U got knee pain, go light)
Leg Press : 3x12-15
Step ups/Bulgarian Split Squats/Reverse Lunges - 3x15
Romanian deadlifts : 3x12
Core work : 3 x max reps

Bench Press : 5x5
Heavy push press : 3x5
Dumbbell bench press : 3x12
Pull-ups (3x max)
Chest supported dumbbell rows : 3x max reps

Deadlift : 5x5
Lat pulldowns : 3 x 12
T-bar row or Barbell rows : 3x8-12
1 arm dumbbell rows : 3 x max reps
Shrugs : 3 x max reps
Core work : 3 x max reps

Take one separate day to do all your beautiful pre-hab and rehab exercises and mobility workouts as well as god knows what else. You've a lot of those, but very little real muscle work.
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post Nov 17 2009, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Nov 17 2009, 03:43 PM)
Thanx a lot for the correction bro!

Gonna stick to yours!
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post Nov 17 2009, 09:06 PM

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Pretty simple. Low weight, high reps to strengthen ligament and tendon strength as well as muscle fibers, for the squats.
Then unilateral work to work on stabilizer muscles. Then romanian deadlifts to work posterior chain.

The same concept applies, but since ur other joints are relatively healthy, just work to get it stronger.
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QUOTE(John91 @ Nov 17 2009, 10:54 PM)
Damn nice how you people know so much from bodybuilding books and everything. I too damn lazy to read anything, just do only.
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You're forced to learn when it's part of your lives and ends up as your career. Or when you're surrounded by similar people.
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QUOTE(Florian @ Nov 18 2009, 01:11 PM)
Nah, won't be going there anymore. The gym is pretty but it's quite small la. Yesterday not that many people also I feel claustrophobic d, No Ez bar, no squat rack (the salesman don't even know what's a squat rack) and there's only 1 set of each equipement, have to wait and wait and wait...It's basically a pretty gym. From outside the place looks big because the whole gym's walls are covered with huge mirrors. No point having all the AC and sound system, studio shower etc when there's not enough equipment and so little gym space and have to cramp all the big buys and equipment in a store room.

Plus the skinny salesmen at the counter staring at you like so eager to earn your money like that...I tak suka. Very disappointing.

OHM better.
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Took the words right outta my head and mouth.
And they said they had 40 people+ to signup and that was just students I think. At RM75 for student rate, I'm thinking the only people that joined are the mid-east students. And the dumbbells handles are a too thin and a little too long, making it very difficult to balance the thing when pressing (at least for me)

It's a Malaccan Celebrity Fitness la basically. It requires you to dance to the music when you're done deadlifting on their slippery bars.
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QUOTE(zaxxshoxx @ Nov 18 2009, 07:44 PM)
bro. i silent my phone la. just sedar ur sms. sorry2. ramai org x td?
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he did say the gym was kinda empty ya know....
the post you just quoted.
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Nov 19 2009, 02:10 AM)
hehe can always get our contact. probably gathering next week?
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QUOTE(zaxxshoxx @ Nov 19 2009, 09:49 AM)
owh. u working now ? or study?
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Why don't you join us?
He's coming over to my place later to train.
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Nov 19 2009, 11:19 AM)
Who wants to train with me? No one?
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I'll train with you next time, we go Pushmore. Heheee....aku dah boleh buat ring muscle up


QUOTE(zaxxshoxx @ Nov 19 2009, 03:15 PM)
where is that?
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At a place called ayer leleh. At 7.30
IF you read this in time, call 012-7127 366.
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1st entry free lah.....they want ppl to join as members that's why the super exorbitant per entry price.
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Nov 19 2009, 05:27 PM)
Take a bus , hardcore. whats more melaka is small, dont actually need a car , can take a bus and tour around !
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Melaka's not an island kay. It still needs a car.

Added on November 19, 2009, 5:41 pmMacam damn proud....basically Mlk needs a car, because of the lack of public transport while the stupid chief minister is busy building a fcuking bowling center and a godamned planetarium.

Added on November 19, 2009, 5:52 pmhttp://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1221181&hl=protein

Eh faster faster! Help complete this bulk. Effing cheap.

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Come lah....but I ninja k. So you gotta find me lah. I play hide and seek with you. Then throw nunchuck.
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5 mins drive.
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QUOTE(Florian @ Nov 24 2009, 01:53 PM)
Actually I really want to cut, I've been continuously bulking for 4 years. I need to see what I've got without the fat. I was so embarrassed when I had to strip in front of class so that everyone can learn how to do an abdominal examination on me and my tummy is "flat" on inspection, because everyone was expecting that I have at least some visible abs. What's the product name of those caffeine pills?

A lot of sellers are in KL and I rarely go to KL. Anyone know any sellers in Melaka or in Muar? I'm going down to Muar next week, so I might be able to collect directly in Muar or Melaka coz I don't have a reliable address in Melaka.

So I read there's Lipo6, Lipo6X and Lipo 6 Black...the one with the X has that multiphase release thing, and the black one is stronger. So to those who has used them, is there any difference or which one is better?

But for me since I'm trying out for the 1st time, I think the Lipo 6X should be good to start with?
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Nov 24 2009, 02:01 PM)
try PM reyzai...he's selling nutrex product...maybe he can explain the details on the differences ??

but if you ain't planning to cut, try look for pump supps...such as white flood or superpump 250...
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When I come over, Ken, do I get a sample of the beef you're talking about? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 24 2009, 11:04 PM)
guys right here, im confused on which one should i followed in order to gain weight. ive been following madcow 5x5 for couple months already but i also got vince de monte workout plan. the vince's one is more complicated and more exercises. i gained 3 kgs for the past 2 months as i know weight gaining is a slow process, im not giving up on madcow yet. i just want to know whether it will suit me or its just worked for westerners?
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