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Aug 30 2011, 10:33 PM
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Don't get your pants in a bunch!
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Sep 1 2011, 03:05 PM
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I know of a cardiothoracic surgeon who thinks the sun shines out of his backside, and is fast becoming unpopular.
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Sep 11 2011, 03:32 PM
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Sep 16 2011, 12:42 AM
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So based on previous comments, utas is 41k, uws is next at 43k, and then a huge gap to 59k or sth for monash and then 60k for unsw? OMG!! I say stick to utas since recognised by smc too! What about Uni of Adelaide?
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Sep 16 2011, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 16 2011, 11:28 AM) so how's son's application gojng?..... Haha..son is still insisting on doing mbbs or, if i connect the dots correctly, he is also a forumer here?..... cheapest is newcastle at 38k/year......... So he's applying everywhere. He checks in here on and off after I told him to read a certain forumer's comments |
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Sep 17 2011, 02:00 PM
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"melbourne model" - snobbery much? Same goes for ANU, UWA, Usyd though. Yes UK is looking more attractive now.
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Sep 17 2011, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Sep 17 2011, 03:17 PM) Assuming exchange rate hovers at around RM5 to GBP1, RM1million is doable for 5 years MBBS, if outside London. Otherwise, add about RM200k. Am assuming accomodation in catered halls for first year, and rough estimates for accommodation henceforth, and other living expenses.This post has been edited by podrunner: Sep 17 2011, 04:00 PM |
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Sep 17 2011, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 17 2011, 08:00 PM) if you choose the right uni, it can be done for just a bit over 100k pounds......or rm1/2 million at current favourable enchange rates........some med schools fees are quite cheap.... That's just fees though, for eg. Uni of Liverpool £20.5k per annum (not fixed).Quick question - if one graduates from monash clayton, qualification will be MBBS (Monash) ; and if one graduates from monash malaysia, how will the qualification read? Different or exactly the same? This post has been edited by podrunner: Sep 17 2011, 09:51 PM |
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Sep 18 2011, 08:02 PM
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Limmeu, any thoughts on University Of East Anglia, UK? Not in SMC's list yet, at the moment
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Sep 18 2011, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 18 2011, 08:20 PM) may not be so bad lah...... Thank you! I think the possibility to work in Spore is important, considering the super "medicine" tsunami that's happening now, and looks set to continue for the next couple of years. It's always better to have more options than less, in general. So in the UK, there's the Russell Group, and the 1994 group.only 5 out of 65 places for international students in 2012.......uwa does NOT have a large international student intake, unlike some others like uq and unsw....... Added on September 18, 2011, 8:44 pm uea is a new med school (ie 3rd gen) based in the town of norwich.........it adopts a full integrated approach, therefore there is clinics from year 1........ the down side, besides lack of recognition, is that the fees is the same throughout the 5 years, and thus works out significantly more expensive than some traditional programme ones......... as for smc, they have their own mind, and policies, and often that is not related to the quality of the medical programme......eg, there was a point in the past when smc only recognised 2 aussie med schools, melbourne and sydney..........and 5 uk ones, oxbridge, edinburgh, glasgow, and the london schools....... and that wasn't too long ago.....actually 2003! smc has NOT so far recognised any of the 3rd gen uk med schools, or any of the new aussie ones either (with the notable exception of anu).....so whether they will or not, well......if the possibility to work in spore is important, avoid the new generation med schools..... |
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Sep 20 2011, 02:14 PM
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@Limeuu, is there a chance for oz grad to apply for internships in the UK? You're the go-to man here....
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Sep 20 2011, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 20 2011, 03:04 PM) short answer is yes....but unlikely.... Just exploring all possibilities and non-possibilities. Just read the very detailed gmc website. Thanks again!oz grads are international medical graduates (img), same as from msia, india etc... you will need to sit for plab, and they assume you have completed housemanship....... if you pass, and you have not done housemanship, it is possible to get a fy1 job, but the chance is quite small......i think everyone who sits for the plab will have done their housemanship in their respective countries already.... it makes no sense to complete medical studies in oz, and go to uk for housemanship....might as well go direct to uk.....cheaper.....and easier to enter..... if you are consider this as a hedge against the possibility of not getting an internship place in oz, i would think it is a dangerous thing to rely on...... |
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Sep 20 2011, 08:40 PM
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Question on IMU - someone commented in one of the threads that IMU's teaching is trending towards e-learning, and that contact hours have decreased. Is this happening only for certain courses or across the board? A family friend is contemplating sending her daughter (UEC this year) for MBBS.
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Sep 20 2011, 10:28 PM
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Thanks, will pass info along
Since I am still gathering information, I took a look at North American graduate entry programs. I was trying to see if internships are given to grads (like the 2 years in UK), but could not find the information. Course fee calculation further complicated by "differential fees" for international students. Was trying to work out the total cost differential between oz and canadian programs. Anyone familiar with the North American program? |
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Sep 21 2011, 06:39 PM
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onelove, what's your internship backup plan, should you not succeed to get a place (even rural) upon graduation?
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Sep 21 2011, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Sep 21 2011, 08:30 PM) wow, tough one, =P probably sg if thats the case, not sure if i'm eligible for NZ places or not too. But generally a lot of the international students (that i know of) got offered a place in their 5th year. so which is good to hear. You started med in malaysia, but doing 2 nd year utas now. How was the application process via this route? Glad to know you're enjoying the course!well we're doing more and more clin stuff since year 2. don't think you can do much in year 1 since it's the basics? and things aren't really coming tgt at that stage for me. We do like case presentation in groups, which is really fun =) I remembered my first PBL case back in msia was on malaria. (somehow =/) and we had to learn about quinines on the 1st day. I have absolutely no idea why and what was going on. so yes, I do agree with you that clinical part of things should come in a lil later, prob sem 2 of year 1 or in year 2 when they've done at least cardio/respi. it's a good thing too cos in year 1 you go "why the heck are we learning all these for?" and in year 2 you go "aahhh..... now things are coming together" =) tis a good feeling =P |
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Sep 22 2011, 03:38 PM
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Sep 24 2011, 01:25 PM
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It would be interesting to know the real position of MMC and MMA about russian medical courses. Calls into question their credibility, somewhat.
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Sep 24 2011, 03:11 PM
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limeuu, are you still with the service, or have moved on to the private sector? How much contact do you have with new grads? From your experience, are there very noticeble differences between local ipta, ipts and russian grads? I think some opinions are too biased and generalised, and may not be fair to those from russia, as at some point, it greatly boils down to the individual as well. Thanks.
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Sep 25 2011, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Sep 25 2011, 03:37 PM) Around 15-20 international students, sometimes a lil more than that, and around 110-120 per batch including repeats. really hope that they'll open up more intern spots soon. If internship spots are not dealt with, then I would think Australia will lose out in medical tuition fees from international students, fees which are really partially funding aussie and aussie pr medical students. |
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