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QUOTE(Spunky @ Feb 23 2010, 09:28 PM)
Hmm, curious to know what high end phone suits ur taste then? the google nexus one?
Well, between an iPhone and this, i would choose this, cuz i like a combination of a touchscreen + qwerty keypad. Though this may not be as slim and light as the iPhone, the processor is the same processor used in the iPhone 3GS. And the memory is expandable to an additional 16GB Plus it's MAEMO, not Symbian~
Just my 2 cents
of course maemo is good, better than the dying symbian , the current symbian OS in all the touchscreen phone is just the old OS with extra touch function. Sluggish performance. Many apps developer left symbian scene and thats why now nokia announced symbain^3 and make it open source to catch up with fast growing OS market like android and such
Nokia as seems going slow with technology now and sticking with slow processor and ram limitation in its current flagship N97. I wonder if N900 can be considered as the new flagship? Well the down side of the phone is not having multitouch.
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Feb 23 2010, 11:05 PM)
of course maemo is good, better than the dying symbian , the current symbian OS in all the touchscreen phone is just the old OS with extra touch function. Sluggish performance. Many apps developer left symbian scene and thats why now nokia announced symbain^3 and make it open source to catch up with fast growing OS market like android and such
Nokia as seems going slow with technology now and sticking with slow processor and ram limitation in its current flagship N97. I wonder if N900 can be considered as the new flagship? Well the down side of the phone is not having multitouch.
N900 was never announced as the flagship by Nokia themselves...Yes I know that comparing N97 with N900 certainly favors N900 (And this comes from a N97 user lol)...But i hve to disagree that symbian was dying though...in terms of the functionality, it blows others out of the water. it just that the ui needed to be revamped...and that is what happening rite now
hey guys, im hving a major headache here. it seems that the pictures that ive taken using my phone, when i transfer it to my computer, i can seem to edit it, or rotate it. ive tried with my own laptop, desktop and my gf's laptop, still the same.
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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Feb 24 2010, 01:43 AM)
N900 was never announced as the flagship by Nokia themselves...Yes I know that comparing N97 with N900 certainly favors N900 (And this comes from a N97 user lol)...But i hve to disagree that symbian was dying though...in terms of the functionality, it blows others out of the water. it just that the ui needed to be revamped...and that is what happening rite now
even nokia admitted themselves that N97 software/OS is a failure and ensuring Symbian^3 is never happening again.
since the announce of N95 flagship until now, just compare N96 (failure) and N97 (another failure), the function and specs doesnt really improve much. OS wise, pretty much the samething with extra touch capabilities.
edit: ops off topic, lets stick back to N900, so far N900 is good, just that it needs more third party apps like Garmin then it will be perfectly perfect
This post has been edited by chicaman: Feb 24 2010, 05:12 AM
guys, i like this phone very much but i'm confuse to choose either this or nexus 1..i just played with my friend's nexus 1 and it seems really2 nice and makes me more confuse.. lol..
wish i had a chance to play with n900 also, so i can compare..
can anyone here share sumting bout advantages/disadvantages over nexus 1?
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QUOTE(barjoyai @ Feb 24 2010, 06:58 AM)
guys, i like this phone very much but i'm confuse to choose either this or nexus 1..i just played with my friend's nexus 1 and it seems really2 nice and makes me more confuse.. lol..
wish i had a chance to play with n900 also, so i can compare..
can anyone here share sumting bout advantages/disadvantages over nexus 1?
of course maemo is good, better than the dying symbian , the current symbian OS in all the touchscreen phone is just the old OS with extra touch function. Sluggish performance. Many apps developer left symbian scene and thats why now nokia announced symbain^3 and make it open source to catch up with fast growing OS market like android and such
Nokia as seems going slow with technology now and sticking with slow processor and ram limitation in its current flagship N97. I wonder if N900 can be considered as the new flagship? Well the down side of the phone is not having multitouch.
It's not a matter of new or old OS, it's the matter of which OS is better and more powerful. You can have an old OS but if it's powerful, you can do many things. As Maemo is open source and it is very, I mean, VERY flexible; as long as you have the skills/knowledge, you can do just sooo much. Then again, for a normal end user, it may mean nothing at all. It really depends what you're looking for, not what you define as powerful. In terms of powerful OS, Maemo is one of the most powerful smartphone OS around.
I totally agree with you with Nokia is going slow with technology in terms of hardware, and all their phones, lacks of ram. That's why their Symbian have so much problem, it's mainly due to the ram! I have N81 and was so annoyed that it's ram is less than N95! After installing NGage Arena and Nokia Maps 2.0, the phone is left with about 5MB FREE-RAM! Meh, it only have total about 25MB internal memory, while the good ol' N95 has about 100MB. At first thought of getting the N97, but was shocked to find out it's low internal memory which in turn cause several problems, especially lag/hang issue. The N900, still lacks of RAM as it only have 256MB (768 is virtual memory). As of current with some apps like batlevel running, my N900 already used over 150MB ram. Already used up more than 50% of ram... Besides, the moment you go online, you'll notice your processor hits up to 100% usage constantly. The specs is similar with the iPhone 3GS, so in short, it's like a long delayed iPhone (in terms of hardware). If the ram is upgradeable, then it'll be good.
Of course, for normal usage, the phone specs is more than adequate. But when you go into details, it is never enough, hehe
The reason Symbian has problem is because of it's "security" or "tightness". When it was still "fresh", like Nokia 3650, 3660, 6600, N-Gage times, Symbian is the "IN" thing, apps can be installed easily, files can be transferred easily, no stupid restrictions and there were great file managers; Everything was great, there was tons of apps, even we can install N-Gage games on other Symbian devices. Later on, the restrictions come and flexibility was cut-down badly, with all the certificates, etc. You then need to "hack" your device in order to install any apps without "certificate". This is the thing about softwares, the more limitations/restrictions you impose, you're just killing it. Dev will stray away and move on to more flexible devices, more powerful users will also stay away. It may not be a problem for normal end users tough.
WinMo is actually worst. I have been using WinMo since WM2002 with the 2nd Motorola smartphone, MPX200. Back then, it was "great", and if you have the knowledge and know-how, you can customize almost everything through editing the registry (changing the boot screen, internal sounds, etc). The apps are great for WinMo, there're tons tons of apps available. One thing I don't like about WinMo, the User Interface. The Home Screen is nice, where we can customize with themes, or like current HTC, Sony, with their own versions. But at the core, it looks like Windows 3.11, look at the "old" looking scroll bars, yucks, look at the plain white messaging, look at the buttons (core), look at the settings screen, etc. Up till WinMo 6.5, it barely change and still look the same. In one word, it's plain "old", while other smartphone OS already having nice UI and are multimedia based. But the upcoming Windows Phone 7 looks promising with a multimedia/rich content base, and like the N900; they're targeting socializing/networking features into the phone.
QUOTE(chicaman @ Feb 24 2010, 05:11 AM)
even nokia admitted themselves that N97 software/OS is a failure and ensuring Symbian^3 is never happening again.
since the announce of N95 flagship until now, just compare N96 (failure) and N97 (another failure), the function and specs doesnt really improve much. OS wise, pretty much the samething with extra touch capabilities. edit: ops off topic, lets stick back to N900, so far N900 is good, just that it needs more third party apps like Garmin then it will be perfectly perfect
As per previous mentioned, I strongly believe the failure is due to the "restrictions" and "limitations". They need to "open up" their OS. Even the iPhone 3GS, most people wants to "unlock" it.
In terms of functions and features, N97 does have big difference IF you're comparing with N95; There's even difference if you compare with N81.
N900 actually have many great apps (under devel or testing, mostly devel). Somehow, I find it very funny that it must have apps like Garmin to be perfectly perfect. I too am a Garmin user and really want to have it, but I honestly don't think that it can make the phone perfectly perfect. There're many apps I would like to have, which is available on the iPhone, WinMo and also Symbian.
In fact, the more important issue I would like Nokia to fix is to improve the phone features (provide contacts grouping, individual contacts ringing tone, keep SMS into folders, transfer SMS from old symbian devices, MMS, video-stabilization during recording, perhaps options for focus during video recording (when you change your zoom level), etc). There're still many things to be improved for the N900 itself. Apps is develop or ported by developers/etc, as long as the OS is flexible (no restrictions, etc), it will come. But the problem/things to be improve with N900, it's depending on Nokia!
Added on February 24, 2010, 10:06 am
QUOTE(barjoyai @ Feb 24 2010, 06:58 AM)
guys, i like this phone very much but i'm confuse to choose either this or nexus 1..i just played with my friend's nexus 1 and it seems really2 nice and makes me more confuse.. lol..
wish i had a chance to play with n900 also, so i can compare..
can anyone here share sumting bout advantages/disadvantages over nexus 1?
If there is chance/option, test both device (that's the best way). If not, you can go YouTube, watch all the hands-on videos on both phones and also the in-depth review.
One thing tough, N900's future is uncertain... especially with Nokia changing their path merging with Intel. There will be no more Maemo devices in future it seems. I heard the 1st instance of Moblin from Nokia in actualy re-branded Maemo6, still using deb packaging system similar with Maemo5. But after that, it will be completely Moblin with rpm packaging system, loosing the compatibility. Nonetheless, for Qt4.6 apps, it will work for any OS that supports it.
Btw, Nexus1 supports multi-touch right?
This post has been edited by Andy214: Feb 24 2010, 11:14 AM
I know someone got the phone direct from the US using vsHub service. Check out them www.vshub.com. They advertise in MobileWorld magazine that you can get Nexus One direct from the US. I may get one myself. Nokia N900 or Nexus One?
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KUALA LUMPUR: Nokia is taking bold strides in revamping their phone line-up with the latest N900 smartphone and In.Tech got a sneak peek at the upcoming Maemo-powered device last week at the Nokia Malaysia office.
First off, some background information on the N900 — it is Nokia’s game-changing phone that it hopes will reshape the way its smartphones work. The N900 sets itself apart from Nokia’s past efforts by running on a brand new Linux operating system called Maemo 5.
While the Maemo platform isn’t completely brand new (it was used before in Nokia’s N800 Internet Tablet in 2007), the reworked Maemo 5 holds lots of potential for the new generation of Nokia phones. On the outside
Before we get deeper into the Maemo platform, let’s take a look at what the N900 has to offer on the outside.
At a glance, you can clearly tell that the N900 is a touch-centric phone — it has a large 3.5in high resolution screen (800 x 480-pixels) with the majority of the buttons hidden along the side, leaving the screen as the centre of attention.
In fact, the only buttons you will find on the device are used to control the phone’s volume and 5-megapixel camera function.
The N900 takes some design cues from Nokia’s N series phones, most notably the N97.
While the phone feels a little chunky in the hand, it is still a cool touchscreen device with a slide-out Qwerty keypad for some serious typing.
Typing on the keypad is quite comfortable though it still takes some getting used to as the keys are pretty small and the space key is still a little off-centre to the right.
What we liked about the new keypad was the positioning of the directional buttons on the bottom right, which made it comfortable to use while navigating through long lines of text as well as for browsing full-size webpages.
Revamped
In terms of hardware specifications, the N900 is no slouch with a beefy ARM Cortex-A8 core processor running at 600MHz and 1GB of RAM . It is powerful enough to run multiple applications and between different ones easily.
This brings us to the N900’s newly revamped user interface. Nearly everything about the interface looks cleaner and modern with a Web 2.0 feel as compared against the Symbian platform.
The N900’s user interface features four highly customisable home screens that are easily customised with shortcuts to applications and widgets.
For example, you can set up your mainpage to show the weather widget, see your calendar tasks for the day or a link to your favourite website.
Want to switch between applications on the fly? The N900’s new dashboard interface allows users to view and switch between all active applications.
So now, you can just as easily browse a webpage in one moment, check your text messages the next and browse through your pictures seamlessly with the new interface.
We saw the phone handle about five to six apps running at once without any hiccups, which is pretty commendable.
Nokia has changed some the phone’s basic functions — text messages are now arranged in a conversation-tree format with all messages with a single contact arranged within a single conversation.
The N900 also seems to be a very capable multimedia player — it plays H.264 and MPEG4 encoded videos well on its standard media player.
The accompanying stereo speakers on the phone are nice and loud enough for on-the-go viewing.
To top it all off, the phone’s got 32GB of internal storage, which gives you lots of room to store all your digital media.
If that’s not enough, users also have the option to expand the N900’s further with microSD cards.
Web browsing made easy
The main highlight of the new N900 is its new Mozilla-based web browser that’s able to render full webpages to fit on the phone’s high-res screen.
But what makes this browser unique is its support for Flash, so you can pretty much browse the Web as you would on your desktop PC right on your mobile phone.
The benefits include being able to view Flash-encoded webpages with animated graphics, watching YouTube videos and even play Flash games on your browser.
Nokia also demonstrated the N900 handling complex Flash-based pages like Facebook with relative ease, including Facebook games.
The new browser is also pretty speedy, loading webpages in a snap. Interacting with the browser was really simple as it uses touch-based gestures to navigate.
You can flick webpages to scroll up or down; double tap to zoom in to a section of the webpage; and swipe your finger across the screen to go back to a previous page.
Nokia Malaysia said the N900 should be available in the first quarter of the year. However no official price was given at the preview session.
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KUALA LUMPUR: Nokia is taking bold strides in revamping their phone line-up with the latest N900 smartphone and In.Tech got a sneak peek at the upcoming Maemo-powered device last week at the Nokia Malaysia office.
First off, some background information on the N900 — it is Nokia’s game-changing phone that it hopes will reshape the way its smartphones work. The N900 sets itself apart from Nokia’s past efforts by running on a brand new Linux operating system called Maemo 5.
While the Maemo platform isn’t completely brand new (it was used before in Nokia’s N800 Internet Tablet in 2007), the reworked Maemo 5 holds lots of potential for the new generation of Nokia phones. On the outside
Before we get deeper into the Maemo platform, let’s take a look at what the N900 has to offer on the outside.
At a glance, you can clearly tell that the N900 is a touch-centric phone — it has a large 3.5in high resolution screen (800 x 480-pixels) with the majority of the buttons hidden along the side, leaving the screen as the centre of attention.
In fact, the only buttons you will find on the device are used to control the phone’s volume and 5-megapixel camera function.
The N900 takes some design cues from Nokia’s N series phones, most notably the N97.
While the phone feels a little chunky in the hand, it is still a cool touchscreen device with a slide-out Qwerty keypad for some serious typing.
Typing on the keypad is quite comfortable though it still takes some getting used to as the keys are pretty small and the space key is still a little off-centre to the right.
What we liked about the new keypad was the positioning of the directional buttons on the bottom right, which made it comfortable to use while navigating through long lines of text as well as for browsing full-size webpages.
Revamped
In terms of hardware specifications, the N900 is no slouch with a beefy ARM Cortex-A8 core processor running at 600MHz and 1GB of RAM . It is powerful enough to run multiple applications and between different ones easily.
This brings us to the N900’s newly revamped user interface. Nearly everything about the interface looks cleaner and modern with a Web 2.0 feel as compared against the Symbian platform.
The N900’s user interface features four highly customisable home screens that are easily customised with shortcuts to applications and widgets.
For example, you can set up your mainpage to show the weather widget, see your calendar tasks for the day or a link to your favourite website.
Want to switch between applications on the fly? The N900’s new dashboard interface allows users to view and switch between all active applications.
So now, you can just as easily browse a webpage in one moment, check your text messages the next and browse through your pictures seamlessly with the new interface.
We saw the phone handle about five to six apps running at once without any hiccups, which is pretty commendable.
Nokia has changed some the phone’s basic functions — text messages are now arranged in a conversation-tree format with all messages with a single contact arranged within a single conversation.
The N900 also seems to be a very capable multimedia player — it plays H.264 and MPEG4 encoded videos well on its standard media player.
The accompanying stereo speakers on the phone are nice and loud enough for on-the-go viewing.
To top it all off, the phone’s got 32GB of internal storage, which gives you lots of room to store all your digital media.
If that’s not enough, users also have the option to expand the N900’s further with microSD cards.
Web browsing made easy
The main highlight of the new N900 is its new Mozilla-based web browser that’s able to render full webpages to fit on the phone’s high-res screen.
But what makes this browser unique is its support for Flash, so you can pretty much browse the Web as you would on your desktop PC right on your mobile phone.
The benefits include being able to view Flash-encoded webpages with animated graphics, watching YouTube videos and even play Flash games on your browser.
Nokia also demonstrated the N900 handling complex Flash-based pages like Facebook with relative ease, including Facebook games.
The new browser is also pretty speedy, loading webpages in a snap. Interacting with the browser was really simple as it uses touch-based gestures to navigate.
You can flick webpages to scroll up or down; double tap to zoom in to a section of the webpage; and swipe your finger across the screen to go back to a previous page.
Nokia Malaysia said the N900 should be available in the first quarter of the year. However no official price was given at the preview session.
Why thestar report said N900 has 1gb RAM?? I thought it has only 256 mb
1GB is virtual RAM using phone memory...actual RAM is 256MB as you stated
Added on February 24, 2010, 10:24 pm
QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Feb 24 2010, 06:07 PM)
yes , the PRICE is the POINT !!!! i think around RM2200 ~ 2600 !! a stupid question , izit N900 good ???
you can buy AP N900 for like RM2100(maybe lower)... it's considerably an old phone by world's standard now.. i think they will price it similar to current N97 price or maybe lower??
i used to foam at the mouth for this phone.. but it's too late now.. my heart is on nexus one...can't wait to get it by end of this month. i will consider buying N900 much later when the price is cheap enough.
This post has been edited by faizalmzain: Feb 24 2010, 10:24 PM
Feb 23 2010, 11:05 PM
Plus it's MAEMO, not Symbian~
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then it will be perfectly perfect 
lol..
i think around RM2200 ~ 2600 !! a stupid question , izit N900 good ??? 
. It is powerful enough to run multiple applications and between different ones easily.
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