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 Stock Market V37: Return of the Bull, Part V, Bull vs. Bear

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post Aug 13 2009, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 13 2009, 12:00 PM)
Not close to 0%?
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So close to 0% as to make no difference... blink.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 13 2009, 12:02 PM)
sell off TM, buy back at lower price
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I thought you already sold your TM, am I right?
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:08 PM

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Just dont play play with my TA

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post Aug 13 2009, 12:08 PM

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If you do not know what is Fair Value, you are not deemed to be called " fundamentalists"

Bcos you dn not understand what is value.

having say that, the methods used could be very subjective.

So investing is an Art, right ?

No offence plse.

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post Aug 13 2009, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 13 2009, 12:08 PM)
If you do not know what is Fair Value, you are not deemed to be called " fundamentalists"

Bcos you dn not understand what is value.

No offence plse.
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I believe fundmentalist make decision based on financial reports and the business related to a stocks, no? And not reading other's view.
Price is what you pay, value is what you get.


Added on August 13, 2009, 12:11 pm
QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Aug 13 2009, 12:08 PM)
Just dont play play with my TA
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Adam,

What happen to TA? Today so active??

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post Aug 13 2009, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 12 2009, 09:08 PM)
If you do not know what is Fair Value, you are not deemed to be called " fundamentalists"

Bcos you dn not understand what is value.

having say that, the methods used could be very subjective.

So investing is an Art, right ?

No offence plse.
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Yup, technical analysis is art, but fundamentals are factual numbers. Value investing is just buy a very good company at a very cheap price aka warren buffet style.

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post Aug 13 2009, 12:14 PM

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LOL now I'm beginning to hate 1 lot batang.
There's two counters in which I got a partial match of 1 lot, lol now blur whether to lower down the price or just hold on. All i know is that if I hold on and there are no more buyer, than I'll lose money due to commission charges, haha
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 13 2009, 12:11 PM)
I believe fundmentalist make decision based on financial reports and the business related to a stocks, no? And not reading other's view.
Price is what you pay, value is what you get.


Added on August 13, 2009, 12:11 pm
Adam,

What happen to TA? Today so active??
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You are right. notworthy.gif

But I stick to my own methods of making profits ( through reading ) and it works.

I call it my way.

You have yours. notworthy.gif

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post Aug 13 2009, 12:14 PM

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Jason, no idea. Just buy and keep long term. smile.gif

Brb, focusing on my fx trades. Cya guys laterz smile.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Aug 13 2009, 12:14 PM)
Jason, no idea. Just buy and keep long term. smile.gif

Brb, focusing on my fx trades. Cya guys laterz smile.gif
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So, maybe I will keep mine. Only worry market crash and it goes way below my buy price. Then really cry.gif
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Aug 13 2009, 12:13 PM)
Yup, technical analysis is art, but fundamentals are factual numbers. Value investing is just buy a very good company at a very cheap price aka warren buffet style.
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You are right.

But to read between the lines is an Art, and not what people try to sell to you. brows.gif


Added on August 13, 2009, 12:20 pmCan you do a TA on a PN 17 co and buy ?

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Fundamental analysis is also art.

You have factual numbers, but those are historical numbers. To calculate fair value requires forecasting techniques, and forecasts are never factual.

Both different kind of art. Fundamental is the art of understanding business.
Technical is the art of understanding human psychology.
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QUOTE(sabrateur @ Aug 13 2009, 12:21 PM)
Fundamental analysis is also art.

You have factual numbers, but those are historical numbers.  To calculate fair value requires forecasting techniques, and forecasts are never factual.

Both different kind of art.  Fundamental is the art of understanding business.
Technical is the art of understanding human psychology.
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 13 2009, 12:03 PM)
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So close to 0% as to make no difference... blink.gif
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means Malaysia's FD saving has better interest than US'? blink.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Aug 13 2009, 11:10 AM)
She contra off three times with all in the black. I  have told her to only intraday.
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May I know what is intraday?? Do you mean she contra 3 times in a day???

Like buy 0.82 sell 0.84???

Is it?

Pls advice.

Thks.
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QUOTE(cubic @ Aug 13 2009, 12:37 PM)
May I know what is intraday?? Do you mean she contra 3 times in a day???

Like buy 0.82 sell 0.84???

Is it?

Pls advice.

Thks.
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Buy and sell within the same day.
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(cubic @ Aug 13 2009, 12:37 PM)
May I know what is intraday?? Do you mean she contra 3 times in a day???

Like buy 0.82 sell 0.84???

Is it?

Pls advice.

Thks.
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It means a trade or more to be done in that day itself
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 13 2009, 12:39 PM)
Buy and sell within the same day.
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Sure buy in a big quantity right??? Or else no earning... Is my concept right???
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QUOTE(cubic @ Aug 13 2009, 12:42 PM)
Sure buy in a big quantity right??? Or else no earning... Is my concept right???
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day trade commision is cheaper.

but of course, bot in big qty baru got meat to eat. unless one doesnt mind eat kacang kulit. blush.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(cubic @ Aug 12 2009, 09:42 PM)
Sure buy in a big quantity right??? Or else no earning... Is my concept right???
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Correct.

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