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 AS1M, ASM, ASW, ASB V2, PNB fund

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post Aug 20 2009, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(lowyatben @ Aug 20 2009, 09:59 AM)
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Did I get my historical and present rates correct?

ASW2020
FYE 31 August
2006 – 6.80%
2007 – 8.00%
2008 – 7.00%
2009 – 6.30%

ASM
FYE 31 March
2006 – 6.80%
2007 – 7.80%
2008 – 6.25%
2009 – 6.30%

ASD (strictly for Bumiputra)
FYE 30 June
2006 – 6.80%
2007 – 7.00%
2008 – 7.00%
2009 – 6.30%

ASB (strictly for Bumiputra)
FYE ?
2006 – 7.30% + bonus 1.25%
2007 – 8.00% + bonus 1.00%
2008 – 7.00% + bonus 1.75%
2009 – 6.30% + bonus 1.70% confirmed?
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WRONG!!!

ASM
2006 - 6.75
2007 - 6.80
2008 - 7.80
2009 - 6.25

ASW2020
2006 - 6.80
2007 - 8.00
2008 - 7.00
2009 - 6.30

As for ASB, financial year ends 31st Dec, how could you assume the dividend for year 2009 has been declared?
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post Aug 20 2009, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 20 2009, 10:42 AM)
PNB nafi kurang sambutan

KUALA LUMPUR 19 Ogos - Tempoh jualan Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS1M) yang diperuntukkan kepada para pelabur bumiputera boleh dilanjutkan jika terdapat pertambahan pelaburan dalam unit berkenaan. Presiden dan Ketua Eksekutifnya, Tan Sri Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman berkata, PNB tidak ada masalah untuk menimbangkan perkara itu dan akan memaklumkannya nanti.''Kemungkinan itu ada. Ia bergantung kepada keadaan, sekiranya sambutan AS1M yang diperuntukan kepada pelabur Bumiputera mendapat sambutan dengan pertambahan hari demi hari, kita boleh menimbangkannya,'' katanya.

Setakat ini, 1.926 bilion unit AS1M berjaya dijual dengan pecahan 1.66 bilion atau 56 peratus peruntukan dibeli pelabur Cina dan 178.8 juta atau 12 peratus kaum India. Hamad Kama Piah yang enggan mendedahkan jumlah langganan oleh pelabur bumiputera, hanya berkata: ''Peruntukan bagi pelabur bumiputera masih banyak lagi''.

Ditanya tentang pendekatan yang akan diambil PNB untuk meningkatkan langganan AS1M di kalangan bumiputera, beliau berkata, PNB telah melakukan pelbagai pendekatan melangkaui apa yang sepatutnya dilakukan sebagai tanda komitmen. Namun, beliau juga akan melihat pelbagai strategi lain termasuk cadangan langganan mengunakan caruman Kumpulan Wang Simpanan Pekerja.

from UTUSAN MELAYU


A few findings from the above news:
a) They may keep the Bumi quota after the promotional period on 3rd of Sept, so after the 3rd sept bumi quota may not be opened to other races. But it depends on PNB's descretion.

b) from the statistic given, based on the 1.926 bil unit that already sold, chinese subscribe 1.66bil (86%), indian subscribe 178.8mil(9%), and the rest i.e. referring to Bumiputera in this case, subsribe the remaining of 88mil (around 4%)

c) If AS1M fund is allowed to subsribed using EPF, i guess the fund will be easily filled up as it expect to pay out better dividen than KWSP.

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So, it's not fully subscribe yet... Peoples still able to invest in this AS1M before the 3 sept...
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post Aug 20 2009, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(truth_seeker_09 @ Aug 20 2009, 10:22 AM)
hear from radio this morning. the pnb said actually can paid up to 8.X% but they want to use the money to invest more in the equity market.

I think they pay only 6.3% is ok. But where is 1.Xmore % goes? it should give bonus unit for the 1.x%. it will be unfair for the current investor.
PNB is known not to pay the dividend out in full so they can still give their investors a handsome return during economic downturn.

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QUOTE(ayumiya @ Aug 20 2009, 11:03 AM)
So, it's not fully subscribe yet... Peoples still able to invest in this AS1M before the 3 sept...
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Not only that, Chinese may still be able to subscribe the units after 3rd Sept if the Bumi quota is not open to all races, as the 3 bil Chinese quota could be not fully subscribed yet on 3rd Sept.

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post Aug 20 2009, 11:56 AM

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Dividen come..let go drink beer!!
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Aug 20 2009, 11:56 AM)
Dividen come..let go drink beer!!
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Better use the money to pay your cc for the spending on the 1st of the month for a higher chance of winning your desired Longines. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 20 2009, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(winner @ Aug 20 2009, 11:53 AM)
Not only that, Chinese may still be able to subscribe the units after 3rd Sept if the Bumi quota is not open to all races, as the 3 bil Chinese quota could be not fully subscribed yet on 3rd Sept.
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But the promotional period will end and purchaser will be charged with service charge.


Added on August 20, 2009, 1:02 pm
QUOTE(winner @ Aug 20 2009, 12:09 PM)
Better use the money to pay your cc for the spending on the 1st of the month for a higher chance of winning your desired Longines. biggrin.gif
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He is just trying to spend to help malaysian economy ^^

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post Aug 20 2009, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatben @ Aug 20 2009, 09:59 AM)
2009 – 6.30% + bonus 1.70% confirmed?
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QUOTE(ayumiya @ Aug 20 2009, 11:03 AM)
So, it's not fully subscribe yet... Peoples still able to invest in this AS1M before the 3 sept...
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If this is the case which Chinese quota is not finish by 3rd Sept, the bumi quota will not finish forever and Indian quota maybe finish around 5 - 8 months (given the cap is still 50,000/100,000 per account ) if not maybe finish earlier for Indian. Bumi as usual forever won't finish like ASW 2020 Bumi Quota.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 20 2009, 02:27 PM)
If this is the case which Chinese quota is not finish by 3rd Sept, the bumi quota will not finish forever and Indian quota maybe finish around 5 - 8 months (given the cap is still 50,000/100,000  per account ) if not maybe finish earlier for Indian. Bumi as usual forever won't finish like ASW 2020 Bumi Quota.
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The cap is supposed to be removed after the promotional period right?
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Aug 20 2009, 03:08 PM)
The cap is supposed to be removed after the promotional period right?
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True, but PNB CEO told yesterday that if the bumi people participation on AS1M is increasing, then PNB may consider keeping the Quota. Not sure if only the bumi quota are retain or all the race quota. If they only retain the Bumi quota, then it will be like ASW 2020. AS1M will be 50% bumi, 50% non-bumi if PNB retain the bumi Quota. brows.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 20 2009, 03:14 PM)
True, but PNB CEO told yesterday that if the bumi people participation on AS1M is increasing, then PNB may consider keeping the Quota. Not sure if only the bumi quota are retain or all the race quota. If they only retain the Bumi  quota, then it will be like ASW 2020. AS1M will be 50% bumi, 50% non-bumi if PNB retain the bumi Quota.  brows.gif
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He said might extend so maybe another 1 month only or so i guess.....Raya coming not many would have extra money for AS1M anyway
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Aug 20 2009, 05:02 PM)
He said might extend so maybe another 1 month only or so i guess.....Raya coming not many would have extra money for AS1M anyway
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Not only that, Deepavali also is around the corner. The Indian Quota also maybe cannot finish by 3rd Sept. You see only 56% finish for Chinese and a mere 12% for Indians. As what I said before maybe people savings are "dried up" because of too much Government link funds have come out in the past 6 months ie Sukuk, ASM 1st round & 2nd round (bumi portion opened up to all), ASW 2020 & now AS1M.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 20 2009, 03:14 PM)
True, but PNB CEO told yesterday that if the bumi people participation on AS1M is increasing, then PNB may consider keeping the Quota. Not sure if only the bumi quota are retain or all the race quota. If they only retain the Bumi  quota, then it will be like ASW 2020. AS1M will be 50% bumi, 50% non-bumi if PNB retain the bumi Quotabrows.gif
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...and we still call this 1 Malaysian Fund?
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Aug 20 2009, 11:07 PM)
...and we still call this 1 Malaysian Fund?
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This is Malaysia my friend whistling.gif everywhere got quota..... doh.gif
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post Aug 21 2009, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Aug 20 2009, 11:07 PM)
...and we still call this 1 Malaysian Fund?
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I think it's a fair thing la....
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post Aug 21 2009, 08:23 AM

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Please read the article correctly the period may be extended they never mention that the quota will be permanent
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post Aug 21 2009, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 21 2009, 08:13 AM)
I think it's a fair thing la....
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How can having quota is fair? Everything has quota so this 1malaysia slogan is bullshit.
The bumi quota will not be finished. Of course they will continue to invest in ASB as it's giving higher interest.
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QUOTE(BloodyCrystal @ Aug 21 2009, 09:46 AM)
How can having quota is fair? Everything has quota so this 1malaysia slogan is bullshit.
The bumi quota will not be finished. Of course they will continue to invest in ASB as it's giving higher interest.
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Yeah, 1malaysia is just a media gimmick by Najib to show that he is actually doing something. However, nothing will changed. If he is serious, then he should abolish race based party eg UMNO, MCA, MIC, PAS and form a multi-racial party.
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AS1M is for those bumi who already max ASB/ASW/ASM quota . The bumi quota will never be full even given 6 months time.

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