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 AS1M, ASM, ASW, ASB V2, PNB fund

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ayumiya
post Aug 7 2009, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(hocklai8 @ Aug 6 2009, 05:12 PM)
I'm smelling something fishy with AS1M, so I'll be staying away from it.

Points to note:
1) It's going to invest in equity (70%) but the benchmark return is KLIBOR (which is about the FD rate), and maybe just slightly higher. Being an equity fund, shouldn't it be benchmarked against the KLCI?

2) (Hear-say) I didn't read it first hand, but the prospectus/brochure available at some branches mentioned in its fine print that this is not capital protected, but a fixed priced fund. Well, basically its the same, but they're playing with words... I don't like how "smart" people twist with words.

3) Why is our government trying to take so much money from the citizens recently? Sukuk, ASM, ASW, and now AS1M, and they're even trying to get some from our EPF. Where are all this money being invested?

Well, just my 2 cents... It's your hard-earned money.
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1. we'll need to wait till the next year to know the exact return.

2. Yup, they're playing on words here, not capital GUARANTEED , but a fixed priced fund. It takes substantial knowledge to understand, especially for those uncle and aunt, some even didn't notice/aware regard this fact and think that it's same as ASM. And the respond towards AS1M not as hot as others unit trust may because of this.

I found that the information provided by ASM site not detail enough, and for your information I can't get the detail prospectus/brochure from others agent like maybank, RHB, CIMB...

chk out this link, it explain pretty well there.
http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2009/0...ysia-facts.html

http://imdavidlee.com/amanah-saham-1malaysia-vs-asmasw2020/

3. Good Question. If you really curious, you need to do read though and found out what's 1malaysia plan is, what's the Ninth Malaysia Plan, budget 2009, etc. You will able to found where the money being invested and How much allocated in development of country, how much allocated in doing investment, etc.

you may read this as well:
http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2009/0...tegy-ahead.html

Certainly, gov encourage citizens to INVEST, they don;t want ppl to put sooo much money in FD. This make us feel kind of pushing. Nevertheless, This is one way of raising fund for the gov. Each investment carry a risk, AS1M is another option of investment. Just do some research before you put your money in.

It looks like Unit trust become more and more popular. Others private bank as well, launch a lot of new product line, like unit trust, mutual fund, insurance, financial planning,etc.

Judging to the political and economy environment now, where is the best place to put your money in?


ayumiya
post Aug 11 2009, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 10 2009, 05:47 PM)
Not only in KL Sentral, all the branch in malaysia have same problems.... My place even worse, they see people, if they have "big account" at the branch, they will be getting something "extra services" like VIP passage for opening unit trust, sukuk, etc. which means even you 1st person  in the bank to open unit trust, these "VIP" transaction will be first to process then only others. They will halt the transaction for unit trust  for people waiting in bank and give this "VIP" first. They will say system down, etc. only after 20 - 40 minutes then others can do the unit trust transaction.... Think about it... My parents told me this when they are waiting to open asw 2020 recently. This branch in rural area....
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yeah. same here!


Added on August 11, 2009, 5:14 pm
QUOTE(shakiraa @ Aug 10 2009, 10:17 PM)
went to open AS1M acct this afternoon, surprisingly no ppl buying! straight go counter fill in the form and all settle within 10 minutes.

chked with the staff, apparently only long queue on the first day, after that kinda cool off unlike the ASN or the 2020 one.

hmmm, wondering why, may it be due to the outside rumour that there's purchase price that u need to pay? i can tell u that no need to pay a single cent.
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yes. not much ppl here as well.

This post has been edited by ayumiya: Aug 11 2009, 05:14 PM
ayumiya
post Aug 20 2009, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 20 2009, 10:42 AM)
PNB nafi kurang sambutan

KUALA LUMPUR 19 Ogos - Tempoh jualan Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS1M) yang diperuntukkan kepada para pelabur bumiputera boleh dilanjutkan jika terdapat pertambahan pelaburan dalam unit berkenaan. Presiden dan Ketua Eksekutifnya, Tan Sri Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman berkata, PNB tidak ada masalah untuk menimbangkan perkara itu dan akan memaklumkannya nanti.''Kemungkinan itu ada. Ia bergantung kepada keadaan, sekiranya sambutan AS1M yang diperuntukan kepada pelabur Bumiputera mendapat sambutan dengan pertambahan hari demi hari, kita boleh menimbangkannya,'' katanya.

Setakat ini, 1.926 bilion unit AS1M berjaya dijual dengan pecahan 1.66 bilion atau 56 peratus peruntukan dibeli pelabur Cina dan 178.8 juta atau 12 peratus kaum India. Hamad Kama Piah yang enggan mendedahkan jumlah langganan oleh pelabur bumiputera, hanya berkata: ''Peruntukan bagi pelabur bumiputera masih banyak lagi''.

Ditanya tentang pendekatan yang akan diambil PNB untuk meningkatkan langganan AS1M di kalangan bumiputera, beliau berkata, PNB telah melakukan pelbagai pendekatan melangkaui apa yang sepatutnya dilakukan sebagai tanda komitmen. Namun, beliau juga akan melihat pelbagai strategi lain termasuk cadangan langganan mengunakan caruman Kumpulan Wang Simpanan Pekerja.

from UTUSAN MELAYU


A few findings from the above news:
a) They may keep the Bumi quota after the promotional period on 3rd of Sept, so after the 3rd sept bumi quota may not be opened to other races. But it depends on PNB's descretion.

b) from the statistic given, based on the 1.926 bil unit that already sold, chinese subscribe 1.66bil (86%), indian subscribe 178.8mil(9%), and the rest i.e. referring to Bumiputera in this case, subsribe the remaining of 88mil (around 4%)

c) If AS1M fund is allowed to subsribed using EPF, i guess the fund will be easily filled up as it expect to pay out better dividen than KWSP.

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So, it's not fully subscribe yet... Peoples still able to invest in this AS1M before the 3 sept...
ayumiya
post Sep 1 2009, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Aug 31 2009, 03:14 PM)
I am working for NGO that help goverment giving out this aid. This aid is given by KPKT to the poor .. average household income below RM740 or RM185 per capita regardless of race or religion.

1) The units are not actually "given" to the poor.  What's actually done is that each family is "allocated/tagged" with 10,000 units ASW by PNB. Each given a cert "sijil" ASW.  They are not allowed to sell their units...but they can only collect the dividends.

2) As stated above, its not AS1M its ASW.  The goverment "buys" 100Mil unit worth of ASW from PNB.

Sorry for my poor English. Hope this answer your question.  smile.gif
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Ermm?? It's ASW? The newspaper certainly mentions "Amanah Saham Shares" but not specific enough abt which shares they're giving. I thought it's most likely refer to AS1M? Well, we will see more detail from the coming news....

Anyway, thanks for your info too.


Added on September 1, 2009, 1:49 pm
QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Sep 1 2009, 12:18 PM)
my questions

1) how is it possible ASW for non-bumi still available
2) if not available, doesnt that mean only poor bumis received such aid from government

i wasnt playing any racial cards here, but poor doesnt limit to bumi only
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erm... I think anyone who fulfill the requirements are entitle to receive the shares.

Here are some of the requirement:
- income below Rm750
- limited to 10,000 person only
- can't withdraw the shares, only receive the dividends.



This post has been edited by ayumiya: Sep 1 2009, 01:49 PM

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