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 AS1M, ASM, ASW, ASB V2, PNB fund

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post Oct 22 2011, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Oct 22 2011, 10:57 AM)
Can I sell Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020 to someone I know just by going to the counter at bank together?
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There's is a risk your friend may not get all of ASW2020 you sold
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post Oct 22 2011, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 22 2011, 12:23 PM)
There's is a risk your friend may not get all of ASW2020 you sold
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Mind to explain how's that happen?
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post Oct 22 2011, 06:24 PM

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lowlowc: what happen another person was trying his luck to buy ASW2020 quicker than your friend... Thus a risky maneuver.

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post Oct 23 2011, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 22 2011, 06:24 PM)
lowlowc: what happen another person was trying his luck to buy ASW2020 quicker than your friend... Thus a risky maneuver.
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Yape, this will happen.. Its a potential risk..
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post Oct 25 2011, 06:00 AM

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all funds are full for chinese? what if im eurasian?(half chinese half eurasian) which category do i fall into? chinese?

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post Oct 25 2011, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 25 2011, 06:00 AM)
all funds are full for chinese? what if im eurasian?(half chinese half eurasian) which category do i fall into? chinese?
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Some eurasians are considered BUMIputra eg. the Portugese descendents. So if your father is a Portugese and your mum is Chinese then u qualify.

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post Oct 25 2011, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 25 2011, 12:46 PM)
Some eurasians are considered BUMIputra eg. the Portugese descendents. So if your father is a Portugese and your mum is Chinese then u qualify.
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No. They are not. They are not considered as Bumiputra but simply as those belong to the "special minority group" as defined by ASNB.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 25 2011, 05:21 PM)
No. They are not. They are not considered as Bumiputra but simply as those belong to the "special minority group" as defined by ASNB.
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But their ancestors came here long before Mamakthir's. Other groups inc the Baba n Nyonya.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 26 2011, 01:56 AM)
But their ancestors came here long before Mamakthir's. Other groups inc the Baba n Nyonya.
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Miles and more is right. Portugese is considered minority not bumiputera in tge context of Asnb fund. In Malaysia, religion is more important than race when it comes to defination of bumi. Was told in Melaka and Penang, as long as u r Muslim u get bi discount when buying property. If u r bumi from east Malaysia but non Muslim such as iban or kadazan then u will not get any bumi discount in these 2 states.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 26 2011, 01:56 AM)
But their ancestors came here long before Mamakthir's. Other groups inc the Baba n Nyonya.
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I know and i completely understand and agree that it is very unfair to those fall into this "special minority group". However, they are not considered as Bumiputra under the Malaysian constitution.


QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Oct 26 2011, 01:48 PM)
Miles and more is right. Portugese is considered minority not bumiputera in tge context of Asnb fund. In Malaysia, religion is more important than race when it comes to defination of bumi. Was told in Melaka and Penang, as long as u r Muslim u get bi discount when buying property. If u r bumi from east Malaysia but non Muslim such as iban or kadazan then u will not get any bumi discount in these 2 states.
Speaking of, my aunt tried to open the AS1M (Bumiputra portion of course) in a ASNB office in KL last week and was rejected. She contested their decision and they finally gave in and opened her the AS1M under Bumiputra category.

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post Oct 26 2011, 07:12 PM

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When I read ALL these 'filterings' and checks-and-balances just to invest, I just can't help but feel the pure Malaysian Chinese really don't have a place to stand in this country. Really habis, their future, especially so that their birthrate is dropping now, and their percentage of the population is diminishing lower and lower. sad.gif doh.gif cry.gif

Perhaps other countries do practise racism too, but I bet the pure Chinese may have a better chance of survival, for themselevs and their offsprings' futures.

Better belah from this place....
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post Oct 26 2011, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Oct 26 2011, 01:48 PM)
Miles and more is right. Portugese is considered minority not bumiputera in tge context of Asnb fund. In Malaysia, religion is more important than race when it comes to defination of bumi. Was told in Melaka and Penang, as long as u r Muslim u get bi discount when buying property. If u r bumi from east Malaysia but non Muslim such as iban or kadazan then u will not get any bumi discount in these 2 states.
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It is not logical to use religion as definition. FYI, China has got more Muslims(Chinese) than Malaysia!
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 26 2011, 07:12 PM)
When I read ALL these 'filterings' and checks-and-balances just to invest, I just can't help but feel the pure Malaysian Chinese really don't have a place to stand in this country. Really habis, their future, especially so that their birthrate is dropping now, and their percentage of the population is diminishing lower and lower.  sad.gif  doh.gif  cry.gif

Perhaps other countries do practise racism too, but I bet the pure Chinese may have a better chance of survival, for themselevs and their  offsprings' futures.

Better belah from this place....
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post Oct 26 2011, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 26 2011, 07:12 PM)
When I read ALL these 'filterings' and checks-and-balances just to invest, I just can't help but feel the pure Malaysian Chinese really don't have a place to stand in this country. Really habis, their future, especially so that their birthrate is dropping now, and their percentage of the population is diminishing lower and lower.  sad.gif  doh.gif  cry.gif

Perhaps other countries do practise racism too, but I bet the pure Chinese may have a better chance of survival, for themselevs and their  offsprings' futures.

Better belah from this place....
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Migrate is the best solution for you.... cool2.gif brows.gif
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post Oct 27 2011, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 26 2011, 06:19 PM)
Speaking of, my aunt tried to open the AS1M (Bumiputra portion of course) in a ASNB office in KL last week and was rejected. She contested their decision and they finally gave in and opened her the AS1M under Bumiputra category.
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Your aunt is Sino-Kadazan, a true blue bumi that protected by Perlembagaan. There is no reason for PNB to reject your Aun'ts application for opening account.


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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 26 2011, 11:39 PM)
Migrate is the best solution for you....  cool2.gif  brows.gif
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doesnt solve the problem, u r sweeping the problems under carpet. Only rich non bumican afford to migrate, the leftover poor non bumi will have hardtime when the population number is shrinking


Added on October 27, 2011, 12:49 am
QUOTE(Maverick2011 @ Oct 26 2011, 10:51 PM)
It is not logical to use religion as definition. FYI, China has got more Muslims(Chinese) than Malaysia!
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As we all know, UITM only take in bumiputera students, they have a small quota open for foreign students. Few months ago, my friends intereviewed one Uitm Student that looking for job, she is Uitm graduate and a Chinese Muslim from China.

Damn it!! foreign chinese Muslim is eligible to study at Uitm than the local chinese who is non Muslim, where Uitm is funded by Malaysian tax payers money. This has proven what i had said, in Msia, religion is more important than your race or country of birth when it comes to bumi benefit.


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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 27 2011, 12:04 AM)
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Thank you for the congratulatory msg, I'm glad I have the resources to do so.

As for you, you better be a crony..., otherwise, you wouldn't fare very well here too even with that name. Anyway, just to share here : I am of that similar type of name too, except that one side of my parents is not.

Bye to you too, crony, or struggle hard for the future ! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif





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post Oct 27 2011, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Oct 27 2011, 01:41 AM)
Your aunt is Sino-Kadazan, a true blue bumi that protected by Perlembagaan. There is no reason for PNB to reject your Aun'ts application for opening account.


Added on October 27, 2011, 12:42 am
doesnt solve the problem, u r sweeping the problems under carpet. Only rich non bumican afford to migrate, the leftover poor non bumi will have hardtime when the population number is shrinking


Added on October 27, 2011, 12:49 am

As we all know, UITM only take in bumiputera students, they have a small quota open for foreign students. Few months ago, my friends intereviewed one Uitm Student that looking for job, she is Uitm graduate and a Chinese Muslim from China.

Damn it!! foreign chinese Muslim is eligible to study at Uitm than the local chinese who is non Muslim, where Uitm is funded by Malaysian tax payers money. This has proven what i had said, in Msia, religion is more important than your race or country of birth when it comes to bumi benefit.
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Cheah, thank you.

Just a small counter-opinion again here : I have many Malay friends who are also staying overseas and having gotten their PR-ship. Some have gotten their citizenships too. So, I guessed it's not only the non-Malays who are migrating. Somehow, even with the special privileges of this country, they are not staying, preferred the overseas system.

And it's not only the ones who have the money can move, the ones who managed to secure scholarships to study overseas can also move, provided they can find jobs oveseas, which most of the time, they are able to. So they continue their lives overseas,... I know there will be many irritations here after this statement. mad.gif And well, I know some don't return because they don't want to payback their loans - Just sharing here !

I did not qualify for a Bumi loan during my time, hence, studied in Singapore only, just for info.

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post Nov 10 2011, 09:36 PM

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With the recent dividend payout for AS1M, anyone knows the latest status of AS1M ? Whether it's full already ?
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 10 2011, 09:36 PM)
With the recent dividend payout for AS1M, anyone knows the latest status of AS1M ? Whether it's full already ?
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Was told from other website that AS1M bumi quota is nearly full. As now they allow EPF investment. Indian quota still available. Chinese quota is full
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Nov 11 2011, 04:52 AM)
Was told from other website that AS1M bumi quota is nearly full. As now they allow EPF investment. Indian quota still available. Chinese quota is full
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Perhaps PNB should consider increase the fund size of AS1M for another 1B? rclxms.gif

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