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 Samsung Plasma Series 6 650 50inch (PS50B650S1R), Discuss this new plasma tv here.

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post Aug 24 2009, 06:24 PM

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How to buy ah like that....???

I would not buy if I do not get to see it in action...
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post Aug 24 2009, 06:34 PM

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post Aug 24 2009, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Aug 24 2009, 06:34 PM)
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B550 plasma come to Sarawak liao, i ask them to put together side by side compare with pana S10k, B550 already win S10k, but i still waiting to buy B650, they said will arrived next month. Is it a good deal at RM5700 for PN50B650 ( TV ) only?
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QUOTE(tongpoh @ Aug 24 2009, 06:58 PM)
B550 plasma come to Sarawak liao, i ask them to put together side by side compare with pana S10k, B550 already win S10k, but i still waiting to buy B650, they said will arrived next month. Is it a good deal at RM5700 for PN50B650 ( TV ) only?
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PS50B650 tv is good @ RM5.7k
Here it's TV + 32" lcd @ RM6.5k
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post Aug 24 2009, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Aug 24 2009, 07:09 PM)
PS50B650 tv is good @ RM5.7k
Here it's TV + 32" lcd @ RM6.5k
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ronald, you says u're getting the 50B650 + 32"lcd + 5 years warranty at $6999 right?
also where you recommend to get this sets at offer price?
I checked at one of the shop and they quote me $5900 for sets alone which is more expensive than what you quoted here.
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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Aug 24 2009, 10:27 PM)
ronald, you says u're getting the 50B650 + 32"lcd + 5 years warranty at $6999 right?
also where you recommend to get this sets at offer price?
I checked at one of the shop and they quote me $5900 for sets alone which is more expensive than what you quoted here.
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Now don't see this offer...HN retracted the warranty from their standard pack.
I got mine from Best @ 7.2k with 32" lcd + 5 yrs.
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post Aug 25 2009, 09:40 AM

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Just found out why blacks are washed out. Its the darn Cinema Smooth glitch, which also reported in US models.

When I changed back film mode to Off, blacks are good. Though of course not Kuro levels.

I am happy though.

This also happens for B650?
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Aug 24 2009, 06:24 PM)
How to buy ah like that....???

I would not buy if I do not get to see it in action...
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Yalor, I also wanted to view it before buying.

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post Aug 25 2009, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(enrg @ Aug 25 2009, 09:40 AM)
Just found out why blacks are washed out. Its the darn Cinema Smooth glitch, which also reported in US models.

When I changed back film mode to Off, blacks are good. Though of course not Kuro levels.

I am happy though.

This also happens for B650?
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I believe I read somewhere that you can disable it in the Service menu. Same as the auto dimming feature on the LED backlit LCDs.
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QUOTE(enrg @ Aug 25 2009, 09:40 AM)
Just found out why blacks are washed out. Its the darn Cinema Smooth glitch, which also reported in US models.

When I changed back film mode to Off, blacks are good. Though of course not Kuro levels.

I am happy though.

This also happens for B650?
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Mine is black. There is some where that the black level can be adjusted.
I turn off most of features. Pixel shifting is off by default.
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post Aug 25 2009, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Aug 25 2009, 10:24 AM)
Mine is black. There is some where that the black level can be adjusted.
I turn off most of features. Pixel shifting is off by default.
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Ronald,

You do not play games on the B650 right? Was just wondering the games HUD will cost permanent burn-in or not, normally we play games for 3 hours...
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post Aug 25 2009, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Aug 25 2009, 10:27 AM)
Ronald,

You do not play games on the B650 right? Was just wondering the games HUD will cost permanent burn-in or not, normally we play games for 3 hours...
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I only use HTPC for movies. IR protection is on. I see the whole screen is shifted by 3 pixels.
So far I don't have IR issue. I notice that it's less prone to IR now than what it was used to be.
Give me some time until the panel break in... then I ll update again.
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post Aug 25 2009, 10:44 AM

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hope we can wait for the panel break in..

my side suggestion.. leave it ON for 24 hours.. so you can update us earlier.. hehe, just kidding

Am sure many Penangites here is anxiously waiting for your feedback as there are a couple of potential consumers waiting to place order.
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post Aug 25 2009, 11:52 AM

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@ronaldjoe

Yours is black in dim lighting or bright lighting? In bright lighting yes black is black.

But I dont think that any plasma can be full black in dim lighting, even the Kuros cannot give perfect black.

My perception is that the B Plasmas have dark grey black in dim lighting. better than most conventional LCDs, but still far from perfect (with film mode at off, not cinema smooth :-)).

I also turned all advanced settings off.

Does the pixel shift affect black? And which settings do you mean we can adjust black level?


Added on August 25, 2009, 11:55 am@anfieldude

To tell you the truth, I do not see any differences having the film mode at off or Cinema Smooth, so no big deal I will leave it off rather than going to service menu and mess something up.

Anyway you are right, colors are amazing in the Samsung B plasmas

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QUOTE(enrg @ Aug 25 2009, 11:52 AM)
@ronaldjoe

Yours is black in dim lighting or bright lighting? In bright lighting yes black is black.

But I dont think that any plasma can be full black in dim lighting, even the Kuros cannot give perfect black.

My perception is that the B Plasmas have dark grey black in dim lighting. better than most conventional LCDs, but still far from perfect (with film mode at off, not cinema smooth :-)).

I also turned all advanced settings off.

Does the pixel shift affect black? And which settings do you mean we can adjust black level?


Added on August 25, 2009, 11:55 am@anfieldude

To tell you the truth, I do not see any differences having the film mode at off or Cinema Smooth, so no big deal I will leave it off rather than going to service menu and mess something up.

Anyway you are right, colors are amazing in the Samsung B plasmas
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Cant remember well. See picture advanced setting IIRC.
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QUOTE(enrg @ Aug 25 2009, 11:52 AM)
@ronaldjoe

Yours is black in dim lighting or bright lighting? In bright lighting yes black is black.

But I dont think that any plasma can be full black in dim lighting, even the Kuros cannot give perfect black.

My perception is that the B Plasmas have dark grey black in dim lighting. better than most conventional LCDs, but still far from perfect (with film mode at off, not cinema smooth :-)).

I also turned all advanced settings off.

Does the pixel shift affect black? And which settings do you mean we can adjust black level?


Added on August 25, 2009, 11:55 am@anfieldude

To tell you the truth, I do not see any differences having the film mode at off or Cinema Smooth, so no big deal I will leave it off rather than going to service menu and mess something up.

Anyway you are right, colors are amazing in the Samsung B plasmas
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The correct way to view is to view in a dim environment with light behind the display (known as bias lighting) for fixed panel displays. Even without this, the blacks shd be black on a dim environment. 9G Kuros are pretty black...
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bro anfieldude... heard someone quietly took delivery of a monster KRP600M a few days ago??? brows.gif
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post Aug 25 2009, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 25 2009, 12:00 PM)
bro anfieldude... heard someone quietly took delivery of a monster KRP600M a few days ago??? brows.gif
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Not quite yet.....
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not quite yet? oops.. wrong info doh.gif

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