Yes right. Totally agree. I have access to service menu since ages (since my first samsung lcd)
Now only I got access to panel hours on this B650

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Added on August 18, 2009, 10:22 pmPlease refer below for reference:


This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Aug 18 2009, 10:22 PM

your set got buzzing noise?

Not obvious so far...unless I put my ears at the back of the tv
only 59 hours

woooo nice info here...thank dude....
this will help alot...........

is it true once u enable service menu all your current setting display will be reset? also where is the panel hour menu are hidden? cant see it on the picture u posted.

This post has been edited by squall_12: Aug 19 2009, 10:11 AM

Yes it will be reset. See last pic 11th column on the left.

Hmmm.. wonder if the display set has arrive in HN, QBM Penang?

I've searched around, can't find any B650 displayed. Shop owner said it is a high-end model and not many people would like to buy plasma these day.

My Samsung 50B850 is being delivered tomorrow.....will give review and post pics when available!

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Added on August 21, 2009, 9:25 amSo perhaps can have comparison against the 50B650

This post has been edited by enrg: Aug 21 2009, 09:25 AM

Excellent...
How much you got there across the sea?
Seeing from AVS it's more like the same, B850 is thinner
Best deal I have seen on B650 is 6.5k with 32" lcd. Damn value for money

@ronaldjoe

If I had a choice between the B650 and B850, prob would get a B650.

Yeah pic quality would prob be similar, only the ultra filterbright plus is difference in bright lighting. Thinner is nice, but not essential.

The B850 also has Crystal FullHD Engine and Cinema Smooth, are these features in the B650 as well?

But since only B850 is out in my country....so no choice! Its around 11k, with free 22"lcd and brackets.....

Definitely not value for money :-)

But thinking that its competitor is the Panny 50V10, which would also launch (if ever) at around the same price or slightly cheaper from extrapolating the 50S10 vs 50V10 prices in Aussie....

So hope I made the right decision!

Ronaldjoe,

How's the IR issue on this B650? How bad is it?Any improvement?
I read from some review got this 50Hz judder. I'm not sure what is that. Thks.

Boss, you are damn loaded
V10 would be around this range (rough guess)

No IR yet. I hope not.
Now only clocked 60+ hours.
50 hz judder? I'm not sure and not encounter this issue yet.
I have seen B550 and B650 side by side. I picked B650 without second thought.
At 5.5k (less 1k for 32" lcd), B650 is far more superior than S10.

This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Aug 21 2009, 09:51 AM

No lah.

Been saving for awhile! to purchase this TV....plan to keep it for a long time (fingers crossed)

So, it is save to purchased B650 now?? Bulk buy in penang anyone??

BTW, I haven't even got any chance to see the display yet..

Get from commontan. Her price is considered bulk price.
How much can it be lower 100 to 200 perhaps if bulk.
A lot of ppl still hesitant to get one, i guess

Main issue fr this B650 is still the reliability issue, others are minor.

Commontan price is the best at this moment. Definitely will buy from her.

Ronald, yrs is 5 yrs warranty?

I need 5 yrs warranty so I got from Best.

Hi all,

I received my Samsung Plasma B850 (similar spec to B650 except slim factor) on Saturday.

Been playing around and have 25 hours usage in the weekend.....happy with it overall....colors are nice and bright, picture is sharp, motion is good, no picture noise....black is pretty black in bright lighting (though not as black as the Sammy LED screens) but better than the Panny S10.

IR is there, but goes away after changing source. buzz is there but I dont hear it that much so it does not bother me. So no issues of this sort.

But my main concern is black level....I have a Sony LCD V400 for upstairs room for comparison. And when comparing the black levels on this plasma and the Sony LCD...they are about equal??

What gives, thought that the Plasma would have deeper black levels?
I have not calibrate it of course, and contrast is set low at 50 to avoid excessive IR....but during night sequences in dim lighting, black level is lacking.

I dont think I have a defective panel since all other things are fine. I dont think contrast/brightness is the factor since I played around for it for a couple of minutes to see whether I can improve the black but nothing changed....so what am I doing wrong?

Is it because the plasma cells have not aged yet? will the blacks be better when I get to 100-200hours usage?

Anyway, happy with it, but the blacks are below my expectations for a plasma....perhaps with more hours with it....

Any other samsung plasma owners can share answers? thanks.

Seems we have no chance to see it in action.