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Kul | Mo0
post Aug 2 2009, 06:48 PM

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Seng_kiat : Come back , you know you want too. (: Yea waiting for a500/a550. (: If not as nice I'll just get a a700. (:
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post Aug 2 2009, 06:54 PM

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no one know what is the SPEC of A500/A550 yet...i'm also looking for this if this is something similar to A700 and with live view
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post Aug 2 2009, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Aug 2 2009, 06:48 PM)
Seng_kiat : Come back , you know you want too. (: Yea waiting for a500/a550. (: If not as nice I'll just get a a700. (:
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yup .. might be come back to sony .. with a budget of mine, I could get cz and 70-200 plus f58 .. all are high end d .. good enough i think .. wink.gif .. but still, i have to let go my current gear 1st .. biggrin.gif .. wink.gif ..
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post Aug 2 2009, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Aug 2 2009, 06:57 PM)
yup .. might be come back to sony .. with a budget of mine, I could get cz and 70-200 plus f58 .. all are high end d .. good enough i think .. wink.gif .. but still, i have to let go my current gear 1st .. biggrin.gif .. wink.gif ..
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jual bro...then we gonna shoot 2ghter......
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achew
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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 2 2009, 06:46 PM)
achew:

USD2500 = RM8750

We can definitely already get the A900 for less than that, in street price. Some have gotten theirs for RM7xxx. So the A850 should be cheaper than that!

The A850 has 3 FPS versus the A900's 5 FPS, and it has a better burst rate than the A900 (not too relevant for me.)

Yes, unfortunately, there is no pop-up flash, but the F20 is cheap (RM420 is one local quote) and it is both a flash that can bounce as well as a wireless trigger.

The A500/A550 might be worth the wait. We'll see.
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burst rate also not too concerning me..lol..
if i gonna upgrade..i probably choose FF if possible..so that it saves me some $ from gradual upgrading..as well as better usability if im getting one of the 2470/70200
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post Aug 2 2009, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(achew @ Aug 2 2009, 06:28 PM)
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i was just telling my gf that i might b getting this new FF soon..and she asked me..so whats the diff btwn this n a900??i said..almost same but with cheaper price...and she came out with a good question.."i thought that time u decided not to buy a900 due to the lacking of liveview..and since this is the same..whats the point to buy??u dont really mind on the price tag isnt it"  so now..im getting confused..lol...what makes me to get this one over a900...
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A850 got LiveView ya?

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post Aug 2 2009, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Aug 2 2009, 07:51 PM)
A850 got LiveView ya?
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i dont think so....its not stated in the manual.. sad.gif
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post Aug 2 2009, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Aug 2 2009, 06:57 PM)
yup .. might be come back to sony .. with a budget of mine, I could get cz and 70-200 plus f58 .. all are high end d .. good enough i think .. wink.gif .. but still, i have to let go my current gear 1st .. biggrin.gif .. wink.gif ..
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why u want to jump2 bro? 40D not enough ka?
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post Aug 2 2009, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(achew @ Aug 2 2009, 07:53 PM)
i dont think so....its not stated in the manual.. sad.gif
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I like LiveView sad.gif
Ive been thinking of getting getting an Alpha. Previously thought of getting the entry level (ie A330 or A380, due to having LiveViews) but an old school mate of mine (he's using Nikon D80 btw) urged and convinced me to skip the entry level and go for the (at least) mid level or higher. (We used to shoot photos during bording school time, me using Nikon FE2, him I cant remember).

If A850 has no LiveView, then maybe (hopefully) A5x0 has and would be my choice.

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yes... f42am can be triggered while on the air laugh.gif

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post Aug 2 2009, 08:18 PM

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Banzai_san: The A850 doesn't have Live View.

However, it is full-frame, just like your Nikon FE2. The A330/A380 will have a tiny viewfinder, while the A850 viewfinder is HUGE! (Only thing bigger than that, is the Canon 1Ds MkIII and the A900.)

Full-frame digital SLR viewfinder coverage:

Canon 1DsMkIII = 0.76x * 100% = 76%
Sony A900 = 0.74x * 100% = 74%
Sony A850 = 0.74x * 98% = 72.52%
Nikon D3x = 0.7x * 100% = 70%
Canon 5DMkII = 0.71x * 98% = 69.58%
Nikon D700 = 0.72x * 95% = 68.4%

If you put one camera to each eye, you can see the difference in size quite obviously.

kopitiam: That is too cute!
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post Aug 2 2009, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 2 2009, 08:18 PM)
Banzai_san: The A850 doesn't have Live View.

However, it is full-frame, just like your Nikon FE2. The A330/A380 will have a tiny viewfinder, while the A850 viewfinder is HUGE! (Only thing bigger than that, is the Canon 1Ds MkIII and the A900.)

Full-frame digital SLR viewfinder coverage:

Canon 1DsMkIII = 0.76x * 100% = 76%
Sony A900 = 0.74x * 100% = 74%
Sony A850 = 0.74x * 98% = 72.52%
Nikon D3x = 0.7x * 100% = 70%
Canon 5DMkII = 0.71x * 98% = 69.58%
Nikon D700 = 0.72x * 95% = 68.4%

If you put one camera to each eye, you can see the difference in size quite obviously.

kopitiam: That is too cute!
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hmm?? does the % represent the amount of % u see out of the whole picture?? i thought for a900 its like what u see is what u get..
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QUOTE(achew @ Aug 2 2009, 04:37 PM)
does a850 + 70200G consider expensive enough?? blush.gif

i need a good quote  smile.gif
but again..no liveview makes me hesitate a lil...sigh...
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yeah, usually items above 3K i can make reasonable profit for my time. I do get below the price that dealers get... smile.gif

lets wait for the a850 comes out shall we,,, i want to get hold of 1 unit myself... FF with SAL2470Z Carl Zeiss... wow...
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achew: Oops I mean:

Magnification * viewfinder coverage = multiplier of sensor

So, a 35.9mm x 24mm sensor like on the A900, will appear to have a 26.566mm x 17.76mm surface area after multiplying by the magnification and viewfinder coverage.

A Nikon D300 has 0.94x 100% coverage but the sensor is smaller (23.6mm x 15.8mm) so in the end it still looks smaller (22.184mm x 14.852mm).

Of course, the 100% does mean what you framed, is what you get.
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post Aug 2 2009, 09:20 PM

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albnok : Never failed to leave me stunned for while after your detailed explanations. LOL.
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post Aug 2 2009, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 2 2009, 09:17 PM)
achew: Oops I mean:

Magnification * viewfinder coverage = multiplier of sensor

So, a 35.9mm x 24mm sensor like on the A900, will appear to have a 26.566mm x 17.76mm surface area after multiplying by the magnification and viewfinder coverage.

A Nikon D300 has 0.94x 100% coverage but the sensor is smaller (23.6mm x 15.8mm) so in the end it still looks smaller (22.184mm x 14.852mm).

Of course, the 100% does mean what you framed, is what you get.
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haha..i understand...initially i tot all the while my concept about the 100% viewfinder thingy was wrong..lol..

QUOTE(MemorableStudios @ Aug 2 2009, 09:11 PM)
yeah, usually items above 3K i can make reasonable profit for my time. I do get below the price that dealers get... smile.gif

lets wait for the a850 comes out shall we,,, i want to get hold of 1 unit myself... FF with SAL2470Z Carl Zeiss... wow...
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when u get ur quote..let me know yea smile.gif
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very curious bout the A550 model... since i dont think is time for me to upgrade to Fullframe like the A850 yet...

Worry the A550 was the "cut-cost" version of A700 then i might as well better to get the A700 now when d price r on its lowest.

The fullframe even if its selling for 6k+ FF lens(still not too understand with the FF lenses...) its still far beyond my budget sad.gif
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Aug 2 2009, 09:20 PM)
albnok : Never failed to leave me stunned for while after your detailed explanations. LOL.
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hehe... ya loh... sometimes I have to read and reread his posting... so that I really understand. biggrin.gif
Thank god person like himself is here with us and actively posting rclxms.gif
Invaluable sharing of information and knowledge notworthy.gif
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post Aug 2 2009, 10:22 PM

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Actually its like a betting thing la. If a550 better than a700, a700's price will drop like mad. If a700 is better. It MIGHT increase abit. Dono la. Just think that way.
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