QUOTE(hanz08 @ Jul 24 2009, 10:04 AM)
since like more people are aiming for the k40ab now huh.. 
That is good 
BTW what OS did you use?ASUS k40AB/k50AB: HD 4570 for just RM2K!, Light gaming on the cheap
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Jul 24 2009, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(hanz08 @ Jul 24 2009, 11:42 AM) yes yes indeed. I have Fallout 3 but I haven't install it, not at my laptop at least. I think I'm going to instal XP back till I got 4GB of RAM, plus I wanted to try ATiWinflash in XP since it won't work in 7 i'm using windows vista basic, i didn't know anything about the free upgrade to windows 7 until i bought my k40ab. well just my luck.  BTW do you have Fallout 3? I suffer from random lagginess when running on med settings, when changed to low its still the same.  |
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Jul 24 2009, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(InFe_eD @ Jul 24 2009, 04:57 PM) Please do realize that Compaq v3000 series heating problem have nothing to do with AMD, Nuff'said...... Thank you for replying to him, I got lazy with all this AMD-hot nonsense, I got tons of PM that I'm too lazy to reply regarding this. Simple answer to guys who afraid of heat-stroke, if you want to play game buy a desktop. Simple as that, buying laptop ALWAYS have a downside, I use my laptop to play old games that I loved, like Red Alert 2, Medal of Honor and Call of DutyAbout the processor, you can change it by yourself, if you can find where to buy, and voiding the warranty in the process  |
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Jul 24 2009, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Jul 24 2009, 07:52 PM) i m very sure it can run more than > medium setting for left4dead with AA off offcourse .since my hd3450 can at medium setting 1280x800 Yes I guess so, it can play modern games despite its puny memory bandwidth, it would be better if it got 256MB of GDDR3 memory working at 1GHz. But it did use Samsung memory module, which by my experience is great overclocking potential and usually can exceed its rating by up to 200MHz |
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Jul 24 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ Jul 24 2009, 10:04 PM) LOL epic QUOTE(Batusai @ Jul 24 2009, 10:25 PM) planning to get this laptop in da coming pc fair.. haha Why don't you read the first post, I put everything there including guide.so.. actually.. what guidelines should I folo when purchasing it? for the processor i certainly have no choice rite? its oni available in athlon. by comparison which shud be better between turion and athlon and their performance. and.. i've been viewing on this thread. and most ppl are undervolting to keep it cooler rite? do i have to use a specific software or just do it thru da bios? everest is mentioned in the posts. and its da oni software that i have. and about the HD3200 and 3450 thingy im still dont quite understand.. in how to make them show up.. and is it wise to install a pirated vista ultimate? since it comes in freedos.. thanks to the sifu-sifu in advance  Why bother with pirated Vista? Windows 7 is free |
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Jul 24 2009, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jul 24 2009, 10:39 PM) the windows 7 interface looks kinda complicated and hard to use actually.. from what i see lar.. LOL, Its easier than Vista, pretty much the same but I like 7 more. Its not just the appearance, its lighter and faster than Vista, and all RC is the Ultimate. but whats da additional stuffs in windows 7? jus a slight upgrade in appearance from vista rite? win 7 is free with home premium oni wert.. surely the seller will provide home basic i guess.. and if possible it comes in freedos.. i might be able to same some cash wert. I just say to the seller not to bother install anything, I can do everything on my own, even I myself ask so specific that he don't need to ask further question about it. Its your choice whether you need Vista or you can install anything to your heart desire. One thing I don't like when they install pirated stuff, is they put some unwanted stuff with it, plus I wanted to partition the harddisk to my demand, I usually have 3 partition for my stuff, and they charge extras for it  |
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Jul 24 2009, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jul 24 2009, 11:46 PM) oh.. cooll sumthing i learnt. Its limited to DDR2-667 because of Athlon X2, Turion can go 800, but the speed difference is insignificant. Mine comes with 800MHz, but you can mix memory speeds, which it will run at lowest speeds. You can either use CPU-Z or physically see the RAM modulewell how do we check the speed of the ram? and another question.. how do i make sure the windows given to me is the original one? Checking authencity of Windows? Usually they give the CD AFAIK, at least a recovery CD, but most k40AB is FreeDOS |
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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jul 25 2009, 12:01 AM) oh.. so.. the processor determines the speed.. well.. basically da turion will run better with the aid of faster ram but athlon processor runs faster but with a slower ram which makes them even? No, don't get mixed up, the Turion are supposed to be the 'Phenom' of the laptop, so they are better than Athlon, they have larger cache, more P-States to give better power saving and support for faster memory. Forget about it since it only comes with A64 X2 QL-64 anywaya recovery cd as in the windows one? well.. its most probably a freedos.. and when they install.. i wont know if its the ori or pirated one.. does purchasing the laptop come with the driver cd? Most probably they install pirated one, unless you asked for them for OEM one, I don't know how much does OEM costs, maybe RM300-400? Yes they do give the driver CD, everything comes with driver CD, they don't expect people especially people with zero knowledge of PC wandering around the web looking for driver |
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Jul 25 2009, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ Jul 25 2009, 07:27 PM) Athlon is 512KB only la... Clock to clock the Windsor is faster, since it has lower CPU cycle to fetch data from L2 cache, it only took 12-13 cycle tested using CPU-Z latency check, anyway, for K8, it's the speed that matters, the cache doesn't help much... if u notice, the 90nm Windsor K8 has got more cache than the newer 65nm Brisbane K8, but for the same model number, Brisbane is 100MHz faster... Turion x2 Ultra mainly is to refine the production process to push the speed further... only when u go into K10 with shared cache then it's good... Brisbane is supposed to have larger cache than Windsor in the first place but somehow they don't implement it, maybe the performance difference is not huge. When I check the QL-64 latency it reaches 20 cycle  I've play a bit with k50AB just now, spec is the same but its way too big and slightly too heavy for me, and the IQ is not as good as the 14". Price is the same, I guess they cut LCD quality to maintain same pricing as k40 QUOTE(sheikomatic @ Jul 25 2009, 07:45 PM) I'm not asking the RAM, I'm asking about the type of VRAM on the 4570.. Its DDR2, with 500MHz (1GHz effective) speedis it DDR2, DDR3 or GDDR3.. its depends to the manufacturer to choose which one.. anyone knows about the type of VRAM on the k40ab? This post has been edited by Najmods: Jul 25 2009, 07:49 PM |
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2GB is sufficient, unless you multitask (opens boatload of programs at the same time). I got not enough memory at one time, when I open 50+ tabs in Firefox and decided to play Crysis while the browser is still in the background, during the game, it gives lack of memory. I doubt you'll do what I do, but if you does, buying 4GB now is a good bet, since DDR3 is becoming mainstream and DDR2 prices will going to raise because of it
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Jul 26 2009, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Jul 26 2009, 07:59 AM) im surprise to read tat I've got used to open so many tabs for years now, with Tab Mix Plus its easier, but of course you need a mouse, touchpad would be PITA isn't it kinda difficult to change tab when u have open many tabsbtw, for me 2GB ram enuf 3GB ram useful when u suddenly multitasking 4GB, basically the extra 1GB useless unless u go for 64bit & other heavy application Going for 3GB is silly, since the price of 2GB RAM is cheap why settle for 1GB? Plus you have slight speed boost because enabling dual channel when run 2x2GB |
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I don't think Turion makes such a huge difference, maybe the Ultra gives a bit advantages on cache dependant application. Most of the time you won't notice any difference
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QUOTE(Phantom_KiD @ Jul 26 2009, 10:51 PM) najmods... want to ask...why when im installing seven to k40ab,have problems when playing games... If the game doesn't natively support widescreen, you can go here on how to enable widescreenthe screen shrink....not fullscreen...tho im using DNA driver,asus web driver,n the other 1,forget where did i download from...still not fullscreen...plis help me...tq.. |
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QUOTE(positronmaster @ Jul 26 2009, 11:35 PM) that mean....... Powerplay still there, but not powerXpressafterthat.......  i cant use the powerplay.....????? |
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Jul 26 2009, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(positronmaster @ Jul 26 2009, 11:42 PM) that mean... no more powerxpress if using dna driver...??? NO, I never mention anything like so. Just disable the onboard GPU and use the HD 4570 instead, you free up some system RAM too, the HD 4570 saves a lot of energy too when idle, the clockspeed and its voltage is very low in desktopQUOTE(syahpian @ Jul 26 2009, 11:38 PM) i think what he mean is the games he play cannot full scaling on win 7.. cause ati have some problem in scaling for full screen gaming in the new windows version. Yeah I got that too, but its better to have it run on its aspect ratio than have it stretched and looks ugly |
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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jul 26 2009, 11:50 PM) meaning not to enable HD 3200 at all using the DNA driver? Whatever the driver you use, I advise you to disable it IF you got problem with switching between GPU. There is not much point using it too, apart from reduced power usageQUOTE(syahpian @ Jul 26 2009, 11:51 PM) yup.. its true.. but if you want some solution, here is the link. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1022386 Oh thank you, I'll put that guide on the first page QUOTE(positronmaster @ Jul 26 2009, 11:56 PM) its DNA is better than stock driver...???? Not reallyThis post has been edited by Najmods: Jul 26 2009, 11:59 PM |
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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jul 27 2009, 12:00 AM) hold on.. Both, astria already say what I want to sayin post 430 "NO, I never mention anything like so. Just disable the onboard GPU and use the HD 4570 instead, you free up some system RAM too, the HD 4570 saves a lot of energy too when idle, the clockspeed and its voltage is very low in desktop" so.. which actually saves power?? the onboard or the 4570? QUOTE(positronmaster @ Jul 27 2009, 12:02 AM) so as a topic mod here.......aka sifu..... Currently I use the driver from the CD, I've tried DNA before, not much difference. It supposed to have some tweaks over official driver, but the main reason why I put it there is because the official driver from ATi/AMD DOES NOT support Mobility cardsu use DNA or stock.......????? n bnefit of DNA |
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QUOTE(astria @ Jul 27 2009, 12:08 AM) try the Win7 driver... they work, but u need to install Asus' one then AMD's will recognize the GPU... So you mean I don't need to remove the previous driver? Alright thanks |
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QUOTE(jackng @ Aug 1 2009, 12:28 PM) need caution at thne bios setting for format xp or vista rite?? Yes, particularly on AHCI setting, I got BSOD or that NTLDR error when I changed the setting. I wanted to install XP once, but it gives BSOD, when I changed the setting I can't copy the file to harddrive, I'm too lazy to create slipstream to include AHCI driver to XP so I use Windows 7 instead |
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QUOTE(sidefeast @ Aug 1 2009, 04:32 PM) U made it pretty simple compared to the salesperson hehe. Thanks. So here it means that the dedicated card will only perform if i'm running programs with high graphic details, while the rest of the time (while surfing, chatting, etc) it will just idle? Yes, but the onboard graphics uses system memory as buffers, I hate that so I disable it entirelywhat about the heating issue? Heat? All small laptop are hot, no heat issue. Laptop counterparts are made to handle higher temperature than desktop parts while still drawing as little power as possible. If anyone else ever mention about heat issue supposed to get their head cut off, and I serious about that, itrs being mention countless times that still people mentions about it. I going to put this info on first page for people to read about it |
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