The question should be, what have you tried to overcome it?

That is lame, really if they only change that. QL64 and QL65, you know the difference between those? Only 200MHz HyperTransport speed increase, I was thinking at least 100MHz clock speed increase to 2.2GHz or maybe DDR2-800MHz support but I don't think this 'new' so-called K45 is going to be any faster

EDIT: I don't even believe it called K45, because at different place the CPU is different, look at the K40AB specs all around, they even got Turion X2 Ultra selling somewhere

This post has been edited by Najmods: Oct 9 2009, 08:50 PM

I got that sticker, it wrote some date, maybe the date it made

This kind of offtopic question that drags this thread to V2, why the hell did you need to find the HD4570 chip inside it? You want to change the cooler?

I wish I have post deletion power. Seriously I want this thread clean and easy to access, for people to do references and troubleshooting.

Yes exactly, its buried under the black heatsink fan at the back of the laptop

Check out the first page. 'I know nothing' is not an excuse, you can read so start reading. Sorry for being harsh but I don't like spoonfeeding too much. Everything you need to know about undervolt is on first post

CCC means Catalyst Control Center and ATT is ATi Tray Tools

EDIT: Guys, maybe tomorrow I'll make a new thread, I'll tweak the first post info so it would be better and I'll include overclocking HD4570 speed in it too

This post has been edited by Najmods: Oct 11 2009, 03:18 AM

Its easier said than done, you will feel what I feel if this were your thread. Even if I do so, people will still ask the same thing over & over again. I plan to do FAQ on V2, maybe you guys could help do some set of question to help me

I don't use 64-bit Windows 7, there is no point using 64-bit for laptop anyway. I use 32-bit build 7100. Who cares about WEI anyway, I put it because some people nags I put it there, but then they compared to other more expensive laptop like Studio 15 claiming this lappy sux just because they have the same GPU

Maybe, my desktop have 4GB but I still use 32-bit. I tried it before 64-bit with 6GB on my desktop, but I don't like it. That much RAM but no program can utilize it, I find no reason to stick with 64-bit. So I remove the extra 2GB and use 4GB with 32-bit Windows instead. The 4GB RAM limit issue is not bothering me, as no program I use lags because insufficient RAM yet.

Yeah, can you give full WEI score? Maybe tomorrow I'll make new V2 so I need it for some braggin But still I don't know what to put on FAQ.

AFAIK this forum also have term and condition regarding it, and that is no product promoting, unless you are the customer

9600M got 32 stream processor & 128-bit memory, while 9800M got 96 & 256-bit respectively. Compare that to 80 (16x5) with 64-bit memory. This laptop is entry level, I thought someone with Elite tag on Mobile Computing and Hardware would be at least knowledgeable in this, no offence, so the performance difference should be obvious

I'm all ready for V2, I'll lock this thread myself once it reach 2500 post. The only reason I keep it going is because to let all the spammer do their thing so the V2 will be cleaner

And please john_jay2, don't post anything not related here. Those are considered useless post that not related to this thread

On a side note, I found that the new MSI Afterburner software can monitor temperature, it based on RivaTuner. Although it can detect temperature, it can't overclock it but that is AMD GPU clock tool duty

It have reach 2500 post, time for V2, see you guys there