Aug 11 2009, 05:39 PM
QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 11 2009, 12:27 PM)
Nice puny, at 1st i tot ur LM popped 
One glance ady know not wc, all same size
In fact none scorp shld be handle
Even a AFS are potentially to kill if ur highly allergic to it
Im sorry but i dun quite agree
Passion doesnt give u all the reason to own a deadly sp that fast
How long have he been keeping scorp? Few months and straight wan2 go for Hot sp?
No offence but he juz started with a potentially deadly bark scorp (T.Stigmurus) and im sure he have not fully understand how barkie scorp behave yet and he is going for a deadly sp already
U said we should give him a chance but bear in mind in the internet ppl can type watever they wan, eg: i will respect this, do this do tat, take precaution, in real life u dunno if he really mean it or nt
The chance u gave him might end up to be a ticket to hump angel at the heaven
There are so much of other choice available, EG: the shipment rafiqos is doing (Emperor, Desert Hairy, Flat rock etc) why dun ask him2 get those instead?
Arent those more safe for him? Unlike during my time where no choice at all, only LQ and YFT (And a unidentified parabuthus sp tat mistaken as YFT) available
Im not here to bring flame, im here to discuss bout it, i see it as a good topic to be discuss in this thread
Be frank of what u wanna say
Who is the one with large collection and think newbie as a noob here?
FYI i do not see any newbie who have small collection as a noob, in fact i respect them to take it slowly in the hobby
Ppl like Sam and Hyourin earned much respect from me because they dun rush to get new species b4 considering all the risk and research bout them even i offer them to get some sp from oversea seller sometimes
Very well said
Editted: My mistake the owner of T.Stigmurus is not kfai
yap .. i too do see this a good topic to discuss since it has been raised up with a good clause.. some of the pointers i do not quite agree too.. One glance ady know not wc, all same size
In fact none scorp shld be handle
Even a AFS are potentially to kill if ur highly allergic to it
Im sorry but i dun quite agree
Passion doesnt give u all the reason to own a deadly sp that fast
How long have he been keeping scorp? Few months and straight wan2 go for Hot sp?
No offence but he juz started with a potentially deadly bark scorp (T.Stigmurus) and im sure he have not fully understand how barkie scorp behave yet and he is going for a deadly sp already
U said we should give him a chance but bear in mind in the internet ppl can type watever they wan, eg: i will respect this, do this do tat, take precaution, in real life u dunno if he really mean it or nt
The chance u gave him might end up to be a ticket to hump angel at the heaven
There are so much of other choice available, EG: the shipment rafiqos is doing (Emperor, Desert Hairy, Flat rock etc) why dun ask him2 get those instead?
Arent those more safe for him? Unlike during my time where no choice at all, only LQ and YFT (And a unidentified parabuthus sp tat mistaken as YFT) available
Im not here to bring flame, im here to discuss bout it, i see it as a good topic to be discuss in this thread
Be frank of what u wanna say
Who is the one with large collection and think newbie as a noob here?
FYI i do not see any newbie who have small collection as a noob, in fact i respect them to take it slowly in the hobby
Ppl like Sam and Hyourin earned much respect from me because they dun rush to get new species b4 considering all the risk and research bout them even i offer them to get some sp from oversea seller sometimes
Very well said
Editted: My mistake the owner of T.Stigmurus is not kfai
here are my views.....
imo regarding these...
well passion itself i am pretty sure it would not be enough but i did mention too on the others like right attitude , right knowledge , right passion and right discpline .
personally i know junshern have been trying his best to help out k.fai on keeping of scorpions. helping him out in many ways as an mentor in this field.
it juz that nothing were posted here in the forum but does not mean nothing is begin done..
a statement like these i personally dun realli think it quite fair for the efforts they been putting in over at their side. well as we understand that there were many different kind of people and different way of expressing oneself..
maybe if we were to give others some time and understand others more, we would have a different view ????
i too understand that k.fai did make some mistake on the c.m scorpling earlier but advises were given to k.fai and he is doing better than before..
shouldn't we give chances to others when mistakes are make?
i make mistakes in my life before and i am glad chances were given to me .. if not i will not be of what i am today.
these message are for all............ i would like to bring out .. btw i not trying to change anyone thinking but juz hope everyone can sit back and think again ... Open for discussion sake..
if the concern were safety and accidents might happen to newbies which have not enough experience and have not gone thru from forest scorpion to bark then to desert scop ... newbies
should not keep any of thoses hot sp... i believe that none of us should be keeping scorpion at all then.. accident do happen to anyone be it experience or newbies. i doudt
a experience keeper can promise or warranty that no accident would happen.to himself.... an't i right to say that? or is there one hot sp keeper that can warranty that ?
like i mentioned, all scorpion should be treated alike with the upmost caution and respect, be it lvl zero scorpion or lvl 5 scorpion. if a lvl 0 scorpion is repsected aslvl 5 scorpion.. i dun see why or any differences in keeping a lvl 5 scorpion as comapred to a lvl 0 scorpion.. it all sums down to the right attitude , right knowledge , right passion and right discpline of the keeper imo.
maybe we should focus more and discuss on what should be the right concept ???
There were no true list or guidelines telling us first time is AFS .. then is emp .. then is bark.. then u got to wait for these or that before u are ready for that hot sp. ( is there ??? i not sure do correct me if i am wrong )
There were no seniors . telling me.. " yes lester ... now is time for bark ... u are done with afs.". or "you are ready for desert scopion " to be frank.. i am still doing afs research.as of now ....
they are my main experience topic till today.. even tot i have some desert scop.. did anyone of you have these treatment or guidlines?
It is more on self-confident and complete with the right attitude , right knowledge , right passion and right discpline imo.
Accidents will still happen to someone even tot he start from afs to emp to l.a then to bark and finally say the LQ imo if he were to take things for granted thinking well i have gone thru the phase i am experience and stuff like tat ...
If the above differ from your views guys... then i would like to ask
1) when can one be ready for lvl higher scoprion ...???
2) self confident or confirmation from others telling the person .. yes u are ready for the next lvl higher?
3) if we reali do need a confirmation from others before proceeding ... who can this person be to uphold this responsiblity ?
Who agree and who disagree ???
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