Oh... didn't know that Elite indeed

I got it from the ebay seller called "though", the USPS EMS shipping cost is US$89, and it is damn fast, less than 1 week, the PJ is at my doorstep.

OT: AE-4000 price is lower now. It is below RM12K mark. RRP: RM12,999. Anyway, still hold on to my horses as am waiting to see how does the 3D FHD pj evolves in 2010.

Nearly 13k, very expensive hobby eh..

When originally launched, wasn't the RRP of the AE-2000 and AE-3000 also RM12,999?

Is it? I thought it was RM13,999 . Maybe my mem is failing me.

I think you're correct. So that means RRP for AE-4000 is only RM1000 lower than RRP of AE-3000. Yet in US, the RRP difference is USD1000 (USD2499 vs USD3499). So following that, RRP for AE-4000 in MY should be around RM10,999. Again looks like Panny Malaysia is having high mark up for the full HD pj.

This post has been edited by jchong: Feb 3 2010, 12:15 PM

What type of screen you guys use for projector...

Depends on your budget. Some people just use the plain white wall (cheapest). Some use a special paint on the wall. Some DIY their screen. Others will buy a ready made screen (Draper, Stewart, OS, etc).

For me I'm using a Carada screen.

I am on Draper Luma 92" HDTV screen.

what is the price for 92" Draper Luma..?Thanks..

Can share some review on Draper and Carada.

I had a Carada Brilliant white 1.4 gain screen. Fix screen is the best. So far I'm very satisfied with the screen.

Anyway, I'm selling my BENQ W6000 Full HD projector. Check out the link below:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1317355

Just do a google search, there are sites and threads out there which give reviews.

I'm quite happy with my Carada screen. I'm using the Brilliant White material.

pierreye,

Good greyscale tracking and on/off contrast ratio on the W6000. How do u find the black levels? Ur greyscale seems to be tracking better than the guys at AV forum review. Eye One Pro at low ftL is a pain. Plan on getting a C5?

The On/Off that you see on the chart is only with Dynamic turn off. The tuning need to be done with DB turn off. After the tuning, I turn on DB which help to improve the black level. Black level on dark scene is quite good with better gradient in dark scene. You can see the difference by turning off the dynamic iris to compare the scene. I'm looking to get an Optoma HD86.

If you are talking about Phil review from AV forum, I had to disagreed with him on the picture quality. He rated good for OTB picture and good too for after tuning. He also rated RS10 good for picture quality. I had to rate very good for W6000 for after tuning PQ. RS10 is not close to W6000 after tuning as I had watch the unit in my HT room. Also he mention that the iris is very noisy which I don't feel so. Can you hear the iris? Yes, if you display a total black scene then switch to very bright scene. If you are using test pattern in this manner, you can hear the iris noise. But normal movie session, the iris never move in extreme position so you can't hear the iris noise. Also, I had make some adjustment to iris max and min position to even further minimize the iris movement effect. I had watch dark knight SWAT team scene few times and I can't really see iris movement effect. But you know the iris is working as the dark background scene is very good. One advantage of W6000 iris design is it can open/close at multiple step. If you consider the default range +12 to +84, that's quite a lot of range to play around. HD82 dynamic iris is only either open/close (2 steps), but no intermediate steps. My friend own a Panasonic AE700 and he also confirm that AE700 dynamic iris is either open/close. Not sure on AE4000 but I believe should multiple steps as you need the multiple range to minimize the iris movement effect.

Now I'm tuning the CCA and based on my first run, although I can get quite a good CIE gamut at 75% brightness, 100% saturation, but after asking few ISF calibrator in AVSForums.com, they advice me to redo the calibration at 100% brightness, 75% saturation. Well, Calman 3.6 can't do this and according to the developer, they will release this option in ver 4.0. So now have to use a manual spreadsheet to calculate. The reason to go for 75% saturation is most digital display do not have a linear tracking from 100% to 0% saturation. And most of the movie doesn't display 100% saturated color. So it's best to get 25% to 75% close to the gamut than 100%.

If you are interested, here's the CIE gamut after tuning CCA based on first run.



This post has been edited by pierreye: Feb 4 2010, 02:10 PM

I agree that Calman really shd put the saturation patterns and the associated screens for measurement. This was one area where I used HCFR as they had this feature which I found to be very important. However, I stopped using HCFR some time ago, so I have not checked if they are any changes to HCFR. Why not check for it in HCFR?

Also 21ft/L with this greyscale tracking on a projector is impressive. Do you see any other downsides with the dyamic iris?

BTW : Can't wait for more LED based projectors to come out. The spectrum on the LEDs is awesome, colour accuracy is in another dimension, unseen from the DLPs.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Feb 4 2010, 02:46 PM

Didn't give much attention to HCFR. Will try that out anyway. The dynamic iris I don't see any issue except when it close down, the subtitle brightness will drop. I normally don't set subtitle at 100% white but at 60% white so it's not so obvious. Just get one 1080p that you can afford and wait out for 3 years for LED DLP to be affordable and mature.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Feb 4 2010, 05:55 PM

what LEDs to they use ? white LED or RGB?

PhatLight should use RGB LED as this eliminate colour wheel thus no moving parts = less problem. Also should eliminate rainbow effect for those who is sensitive. It can also reduce typical DLP noise as current technology use on/off mirror to simulate color gradient. LED brightness can be adjust in multiple step based on the voltage. But LED technology still in infancy so I expect at least 2-3 product cycle for a more mature and mainstream product. 30,000 hours lamp light should last you for more than 10 years. My dream is LED DLP with 3D technology at 1080p, 700 lumens at best mode, CMS, 1000 ANSI contrast and at least 15k contrast ratio.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Feb 4 2010, 07:25 PM