You were fasting for religious reasons? As I understand it, fasting deprives your body of needed nutrients, do it long enough and your body will go into "starvation mode", which makes the body prioritise fat storage and decreases muscle hypertrophy.

I'm also rather sceptical about your claims regarding your 'shoulders broadening out' and your 'triceps more defined' after just 5 days of lifting. Even BBers on juice would take some time to see any appreciable gains, let alone someone not on supplements. Got any before/after pics?

Hey this idea is pretty good actually. There is one article in T-nation saying about losing those bloated guts in a week. But the process aint very healthy for the weather in malaysia, sumthing like u got to stop taking water from 8pm onwards and bla bla bla.

lot101, I award you The Most Ignorant Poster 2009 award for the BB&ST board!

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Added on July 7, 2009, 4:07 pmI get the feeling you're one of those who bench press with your legs in the air (possibly while executing a bicycling motion with them) and who commit other atrocities of form which cause onlookers so much pain just to watch.

This post has been edited by kotmj: Jul 7 2009, 04:17 PM

fasting for other reasons. just take it I am one of those ppl who is constantly pushing the envelope on everything. yes I do the impact of such acts. done my research before moving forward. moving on.........

sorry no visual evidence. I am an on and off lifter due to my work schedule. shoulders get droopy if I dun lift. biceps become one smooth contoured lump I am not 'big'.

i have to confess its very difficult for me to make any gains. hence the on and off lifting yes tried everything to break the plateau. so just gave up and concentrated on lifting to failure on alt days if time allows it. other days would be reserved for running, cycling etc etc on the open road.

@kotmj

why you want angrydogs cup of tea ? ready to man up boy ?

This post has been edited by lot101: Jul 7 2009, 04:51 PM

I think we all need to chill forawhile . In the end, I think I'm lost about what we're discussing in the end.

Supplements, as iamyuanwu said, are just bits of food concentrated and processed into powder. They're not pixie-dust in a tub. 2 weeks is too short a period of time to see any visible differences. Strength wise, you might get a little gains, but they will be miniscule. A month or two is more or less bare minimum for one to see significant gains.

This post has been edited by -Dan: Jul 7 2009, 05:00 PM

Thanks ppl found my solution else where. going to eat clean its either baked, boiled or steamed .


@angrydog

cup of tea is real


@kotmj

really tired of your talk. back up those words boy.
PM me meet up in the ring (training purposes) I should be back in a month or two.
seriously I am not big.
I am very very small compared to darklight.


@-Dan

yeah I know that, all I was asking is that something to give me the extra edge so I can slap on another 10kg to my lift. but I am done here. thanks

This post has been edited by lot101: Jul 7 2009, 05:03 PM

you are not worth to compare with darklight seriously, by looking at your post and the knowledge inside it, you are just skinny.
you're just too stubborn and dont want to accept other opinion.. end of talk

not sure is it i hang out too much in H&F or what..but recently alot of new forumer..create this kind of topic..asking advise but nvr listen...maybe we shd just hit the report button to ask mod close thread

I'm more of a coffee drinker.

But I think you see the commonalities in the posts here: "Shape up" communicates neither your intention nor your starting point, two weeks is too short for anything, supplements are less miraculous than advertised, and your base of knowledge about BB and ST is next to non-existant; too little, in any case, to effect what you wish.

This post has been edited by kotmj: Jul 7 2009, 05:33 PM

obvious where all the nutrients have gone to..read the post properly.

@kotmj

waiting.

closing it myself, tiring.

This post has been edited by lot101: Jul 7 2009, 05:57 PM