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post Nov 4 2009, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 4 2009, 11:33 PM)
I have seen it in the LCDs, I am not sure if it exists in the plasmas. If it does, leave it off when viewing 24p content.
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Is it 'BD wise'? Pardon me on noob question.
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Nov 4 2009, 11:39 PM)
Is it 'BD wise'? Pardon me on noob question.
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ronaldjoe,

Do u have a setting called CinemaSmooth? If u do, turn it on and it refreshes at 96Hz, if it does not look right to u, then turn it off.

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post Nov 5 2009, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 4 2009, 11:28 PM)
chewkl,

I cannot confirm that the S10 does not do 24p correctly. The X10 does not do it too great, from the ones I have seen.

AMP is Samsung's own algorithm for image processing, which in my opinion is flawed to 24p. Leave it at off. Might be good for 50Hz sports for LCD.

AMP- Auto Motion Plus.

It causes dropped/skipped frames when viewing 24p. The refresh rates and algorithms depends on whether u select Low, Mid, High.
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Currently I am using S10 and tried 24p with BD. So far the PQ is fine.
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Nov 5 2009, 07:16 AM)
Currently I am using S10 and tried 24p with BD. So far the PQ is fine.
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If u do not see any judder on the slow panning shots, then they shd at least be refreshing at 48Hz. Try the closing credits, or the Planet Earth scene that pans across the sky.
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Will give it a try to see if there is any judder.
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Just realise the 50S10 don't support Deep Colour (10/12-bit), but only support x.v. Colour. Anyone can explain the difference?

The 50S10 also don't support 24p Smooth Film, but can support "24p Playback"....what is the difference?

Digital Cinema Colour - No
Shades of Gradation 5,120 equivalent steps of gradation
Deep Colour (10/12-bit) - No
x.v. Colour - Yes
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Nov 5 2009, 12:22 PM)
Just realise the 50S10 don't support Deep Colour (10/12-bit), but only support x.v. Colour.  Anyone can explain the difference?

The 50S10 also don't support 24p Smooth Film, but can support "24p Playback"....what is the difference?

Digital Cinema Colour - No
Shades of Gradation  5,120 equivalent steps of gradation
Deep Colour (10/12-bit) - No
x.v. Colour - Yes
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more details here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Color

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XvYCC


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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Nov 5 2009, 12:22 PM)
Just realise the 50S10 don't support Deep Colour (10/12-bit), but only support x.v. Colour.  Anyone can explain the difference?

The 50S10 also don't support 24p Smooth Film, but can support "24p Playback"....what is the difference?

Digital Cinema Colour - No
Shades of Gradation  5,120 equivalent steps of gradation
Deep Colour (10/12-bit) - No
x.v. Colour - Yes
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So that settles it, same as the X10, some sort of pulldown is done and the refresh is most probably at 60Hz. Most people will not realise the difference unless ur are judder susceptible.

There is no source of deep colour anyway, however, if the device can do some processing and output 10 bit or 12 bit then if u have a display that is deep colour capable u shd see less banding.

The PS3 XMB Menu for instance is 12bit.

x.v. Colour is more of a colour gamut (in my opinion unnecessary for HD content viewing anyway) whereas Deep Colour is colour bits (depth).

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Saw in today's TheStar Panny roadshow at Bangsar Village showcasing the new V and Z series Plasma 60" and 54"
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Nov 6 2009, 08:48 AM)
Saw in today's TheStar Panny roadshow at Bangsar Village showcasing the new V and Z series Plasma 60" and 54"
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When is it TTDI boss? drool.gif This weekend?
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Nov 6 2009, 08:49 AM)
When is it TTDI boss?  drool.gif This weekend?
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Yup thumbup.gif Bangsar Village's concourse area
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Yup thumbup.gif Bangsar Village's concourse area
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Today got or not? I am in Bangsar. brows.gif
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Saw in today's TheStar Panny roadshow at Bangsar Village showcasing the new V and Z series Plasma 60" and 54"
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I thought Panny did not make 60in? I believe they were 65in, 54in correct?
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The other day in Panashop if not mistaken I was told it is RM24,999 and RM49,999 sweat.gif
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sweat.gif Then buy projector liao
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Nov 6 2009, 08:53 AM)
Today got or not? I am in Bangsar.  brows.gif
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Yup...starts today til next weekend icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 6 2009, 08:56 AM)
I thought Panny did not make 60in? I believe they were 65in, 54in correct?
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Sorry, my bad. Its 65" and 54" blush.gif


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QUOTE(chewkl @ Nov 6 2009, 08:58 AM)
The other day in Panashop if not mistaken I was told it is RM24,999 and RM49,999 sweat.gif
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But elites have deeeeeeeeep pockets ma whistling.gif

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 4 2009, 11:45 PM)
ronaldjoe,

Do u have a setting called CinemaSmooth? If u do, turn it on and it refreshes at 96Hz, if it does not look right to u, then turn it off.
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boss, while watchin my fast action cartoon on 24p setting out frm wdtv, without cinema smooth the motion judders abit. with it on, it's smooth sailing. but then the color seems to go off abit.. hope not my eyes playin tricks..


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Anybody can tell me where to buy this model in Ipoh? Please PM me.
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QUOTE(temppei @ Nov 6 2009, 09:28 AM)
boss, while watchin my fast action cartoon on 24p setting out frm wdtv, without cinema smooth the motion judders abit. with it on, it's smooth sailing. but then the color seems to go off abit.. hope not my eyes playin tricks..
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Japanese anime? Is it a mkv file?
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yep, a 720p mkv files. most prolly my crappy eyes hallucinating.

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