just went there last Wednesday.. quite a smell
MOTORCYCLE TYRES: WHICH IS THE BEST ?, Let's discuss which tyres are best !
MOTORCYCLE TYRES: WHICH IS THE BEST ?, Let's discuss which tyres are best !
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Oct 4 2010, 08:51 PM
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did you know that Michelin, Bridgestone, Goodyear and Continental get their SMR 10 and SMR 20 from Malaysia's very own Felda? Mainly from Lurah Bilut Rubber Factory, Pahang.
just went there last Wednesday.. quite a smell |
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Oct 4 2010, 11:43 PM
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Actually there are only 4 rubber factories in malaysia that we can buy SMR10 and SMR20 from. All factories that use rubber will have to buy from them unless they buy from other countries. Many other brands of tires also buy SMR from malaysia. Yes the smell stinks like hell !
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Oct 11 2010, 11:56 PM
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Thx for sharing, didn't know anything about SMR before.
@lewatmalam: since you know so much about Farrelli, how does the process to make them compared to branded ones like Michelin and Bridgestone? Is there silica compound added to the tires to improve wet handling and heat resistance? |
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Oct 12 2010, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 11 2010, 11:56 PM) Thx for sharing, didn't know anything about SMR before. The process of manufacturing Farrelli Tires are actually the same as FKR, Duro, Dunlop and Michelin which is pneumatic while Bridgestone is using Zero Degree. As for silica compound, all tires actually have this compound, it's the quantity that is mixed into the whole compound that differs. There is a minimal quantity that SIRIM checks for before approving a tire to be deemed safe for road use so if you use tires that are SIRIM approved, you need not worry. Most China and Vietnam tires do not have the minimum quantity needed for a safe ride hence they will not be able to get their tires approved by SIRIM. Furthermore, those tires normally last only 3-4 months maximum. Less Silica, less grip and durability. Ever notice Racing Slick Tires which is like "botak" ? Those tires give you hellalot of grip even when "botak". This is because they use a very high silica compound. Higher silica would also mean more expensive tires as silica isn't cheap.@lewatmalam: since you know so much about Farrelli, how does the process to make them compared to branded ones like Michelin and Bridgestone? Is there silica compound added to the tires to improve wet handling and heat resistance? |
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Oct 23 2010, 12:03 AM
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zero degree tires... hmmm. Googled a bit and got some idea. So, Bridgestone tires are steel belted? The pneumatic ones are nylon belted then?
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Oct 24 2010, 02:53 PM
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Oct 24 2010, 03:46 PM
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I was using a dunlop tt900 i think ,for my front wheel , the threads almost ran out (in some areas got less than 1mm groove left) and i almost lost control of my bike , over some slightly wet surface. I'm using a fz150i
Anyway , i went to a motorbike repair shop , went and touched some rubber. The shop owner recommended me farrelli , then i was thinking , eh , FERRARI tires ?? XD Pirelli knock offs? He showed me the tire , it is the F1800 80/90x17 TL tire. I touched it and it was pretty good , slightly softer than my old tires , but i think thats a good thing cause maybe it provides more grip? It has much more grooves/threads anyway , so i just say yes. Real question here, he put a tube in , so is it really tubeless? Then what is the speed rating for this tire? 130 and above is too much or what? i paid rm68 for the tire and rm8 for the inner tube. This post has been edited by calvintang: Oct 24 2010, 03:49 PM |
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Oct 24 2010, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(calvintang @ Oct 24 2010, 03:46 PM) I was using a dunlop tt900 i think ,for my front wheel , the threads almost ran out (in some areas got less than 1mm groove left) and i almost lost control of my bike , over some slightly wet surface. I'm using a fz150i First and Foremost, i can assure you that if you indeed bought F1800 80/90x17, it is truly a tubeless tire. Does the sidewall have F1800 Silverace written on it ? That is the basic confirmation on whether that tire is a tubeless tire. Are you using sport rims or spoke rims ? We also do have F1800 275x17 which is tube type but some bad ethnics workshops out there will sell them as tubeless. Do let me know where you bought the tires and which shop name if you would like me to check. Our tire speed rating is P which is 150km/h, this means that the tire can withstand the heat generated by a constant speed of 150km/h. If you push your tires above that speed then it is dangerous.Anyway , i went to a motorbike repair shop , went and touched some rubber. The shop owner recommended me farrelli , then i was thinking , eh , FERRARI tires ?? XD Pirelli knock offs? He showed me the tire , it is the F1800 80/90x17 TL tire. I touched it and it was pretty good , slightly softer than my old tires , but i think thats a good thing cause maybe it provides more grip? It has much more grooves/threads anyway , so i just say yes. Real question here, he put a tube in , so is it really tubeless? Then what is the speed rating for this tire? 130 and above is too much or what? i paid rm68 for the tire and rm8 for the inner tube. P/S We're certainly not Pirelli knockoffs or any type of knockoffs. In fact, our brand has been in the market for more than 10 years. We're 100% Buatan Malaysia and SIRIM Approved ! |
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Oct 24 2010, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(lewatmalam @ Oct 24 2010, 04:03 PM) First and Foremost, i can assure you that if you indeed bought F1800 80/90x17, it is truly a tubeless tire. Does the sidewall have F1800 Silverace written on it ? That is the basic confirmation on whether that tire is a tubeless tire. Are you using sport rims or spoke rims ? We also do have F1800 275x17 which is tube type but some bad ethnics workshops out there will sell them as tubeless. Do let me know where you bought the tires and which shop name if you would like me to check. Our tire speed rating is P which is 150km/h, this means that the tire can withstand the heat generated by a constant speed of 150km/h. If you push your tires above that speed then it is dangerous. yeah it has silver race written on the side. I think it is sport rims , see the following link.P/S We're certainly not Pirelli knockoffs or any type of knockoffs. In fact, our brand has been in the market for more than 10 years. We're 100% Buatan Malaysia and SIRIM Approved ! Hmm , i don't want to trouble you , but here are a few pictures. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Oct 25 2010, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(calvintang @ Oct 24 2010, 05:17 PM) yeah it has silver race written on the side. I think it is sport rims , see the following link. That is indeed our Tubeless tire. I'm not sure why would the mechanic put in a tube apart from his inability to inflate the tubeless tire (Some mechanics take too much short cuts so they can't inflate our tires). It's best you go ask him why he install a tube into a tubeless tire which is also fitted into a sport rim.Hmm , i don't want to trouble you , but here are a few pictures. |
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Oct 25 2010, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(lewatmalam @ Oct 24 2010, 04:03 PM) P/S We're certainly not Pirelli knockoffs or any type of knockoffs. In fact, our brand has been in the market for more than 10 years. We're 100% Buatan Malaysia and SIRIM Approved ! I agree. I`ve used Farrelli tyre long ago when still with my Kriss. For me, its still the best (non race) tyre for the road. Good grip during wet, too.But kinda hard to find it at shop nowadays. |
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Oct 25 2010, 07:13 PM
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Oh alright, thanks again for the information.
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Oct 25 2010, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Oct 25 2010, 07:00 PM) I agree. I`ve used Farrelli tyre long ago when still with my Kriss. For me, its still the best (non race) tyre for the road. Good grip during wet, too. If you ever need a place to get our tires, just pm me and i'll get the info to you asapBut kinda hard to find it at shop nowadays. |
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Oct 28 2010, 04:33 PM
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I asked to change to F1800 70/90. The shop charge RM60+ including labor. Mahal nie.
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Oct 28 2010, 05:43 PM
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Oct 28 2010, 05:51 PM
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Between the F1000 and F1800, other than the apparent tread difference, are they the same material?
What about Michiyama? |
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Oct 29 2010, 01:17 AM
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Oct 29 2010, 07:30 PM
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Just change to Maxxis tyre MA-3D 70/90 17. It is very nice tyre but a bit pricey. Maybe the shop that change for me charged very high. Tyre only RM 105 + RM 5 valve. Burn RM 110.
Suppose to look for Farrelli tyre but hard to find. Last bought the F1800 also purposely back to Ipoh to get it. |
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Oct 31 2010, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(investor @ Oct 29 2010, 07:30 PM) Just change to Maxxis tyre MA-3D 70/90 17. It is very nice tyre but a bit pricey. Maybe the shop that change for me charged very high. Tyre only RM 105 + RM 5 valve. Burn RM 110. Actually you can buy direct from me or get the list of dealers in your area from me too.Suppose to look for Farrelli tyre but hard to find. Last bought the F1800 also purposely back to Ipoh to get it. |
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Nov 24 2010, 01:56 PM
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bro, tgok link mcm mati tp xpe la, nk tny jgk. tire farrelli ni ada waranti ke? sy bru pkai 2 bln, dh rosak (bengkak).....
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