Catfish biz in Vietnam is striving and i know/seen biz there grew more than 10 in 3 yrs due to demand for fish fillet in EU.

Koi for eating? Have not heard of it, mostly for ornamental. Tasty or not heheh

There's not enough supply for fillet in Malaysia as it is, be it keli or tilapia etc.

I heard that there's not enough supply even for only the Malay community for keli. anyone can verify that?

i saw a 2 in 1 biz...rear keli and frog at the same time. dead frogs can be feed to keli and dead keli can be fed to frogs. no wastage.
they are doing in singapore ..

I've been saying that all along??

2 in 1, 3 in 1, 10 in 1 pun ada, no need to go to singapore, plenty in Malaysia.

Hi rafizi, Are you doing anything else except keli farming?

Some trading in agriculture produce but mainly fish/aquaculture

oh, What agriculture venture now? Speaking of which, Is clay soil suitable for plantation?

When there is sufficient demand and supply, i trade la hehe. Can be anything from sayur or fruits or fish. Is it really clay soil or because there used to be somekind of lombong there? Tanah lombong is considered OK for any kind of plantation but only if there is no other alternative or u can get the place for free IMHO. Really need to see the condition, if too sandy then u will have problem with baja, as it will not hold nutrients. If it used to be sawah padi, u will have problem with pH levels (usually too acidic), then u can buy zeolite to neutralise it from me heheh just kidding. My suggestion is leave the tanah naturally and rear fish/udang!

Hope we dont go off topic here

Technically speaking it is a Clay Loam type of soil. Does the type of soil affect aquaculture?

Hello Bro Rafizi finally managed to visit ur farm.. Hmm so good to see that..
I've started my catfish at Semenyih as well.. hehe in a single storey shop..
Can i Invite you to visit my place to get some advice from u ??So Far So Good..hehe..
Ur asst gave me a good speech n advice.. Hehe say thanks to him and send my regards.
Btw bro i still have alot to learn from u...

Hello 4lenAngel,

u rear keli too...how's the biz? tot wana ask u how do u start the biz at first? does it need a lot of capital for the 1st mth or 2nd mth?

Soil type in general does not affect aquaculture unless it already has an underlying problem (example certain land because of its history is too acidic for aquaculture or any kind of plantation). Because clay soil has good water retention it is easy to contain and control the fish rather than any plain soil.


The farm just entered its 2nd phase of construction so I am sorry if things were a bit messy. Sorry we did not get to meet but I am honoured you visited. Which part in Semenyih? Give me a call and I will be sure to drop by!

bro rafizi, is there any good suggestions/advices for student like me to actually make this a successful business? getting interesting here, as many are actually discussing more openly about this business. If possible, show some realistic steps for us to follow as well. I'm sure many are interested to know too! Thanks in advance!

Hi All,

I want to start bela ikan keli in my house garden. May I know where can i buy the canvas? My garden is about 50x100feet only.
Please advise the price and place to buy

Thank you!

Albumster

OK i give an analogy. U open one handphone shop. sell nokia, sony bla bla. each handphone maybe u can profit RM10 max. so u manage to sell 10 handphones in 1 day, ur profit rm100. Lets face it, that's not gonna make u a millionaire

it is the same with ikan keli. For those not in the know, ikan keli is amongst the lowest priced fish u can buy. It basically has no value. Go to indonesia and u will understand, keli/lele is considered ikan longkang. So to be realistic, something like this needs to be done in volume. Just like the handphone, u actually see hundreds of handphone shop in one place. But in reality they are all owned by 2 maybe 3 towkays. This is because they wanna focus on volume, basically handphone is no value item. Dont confuse with the RM3000 bling bling phones, those are niche targeting anak orang kaya.

I am not guru to show u step by step. I did not go to bling bling college hehhe. If u ask me, just like Nike motto, JUST DO IT. Then u will slowly learn the in and outs. But u already have the key, which is VOLUME.

Dear albumster,

I am not canvas salesman but u are free to visit my place to see how things are done. No obligation to buy hahahha.

Rafizi,

Thanks for the invitation. May i know where your farm is? I will drop by to check out your place.

Woo! Max RM10 profit for each phone? Bro,i am not trying to argue with you but i just want to tell you that it's not the case.I'm not sure how come u said that but i have been in handphone line for 9years+ now. It's very true that handphone business nowadays is really bad bcoz it's like everywhere also got handphone shop. Too many competitor. But,it's not until like i can get MAX RM10 profit only.That's ridiculous isn't it? The current lowest profit margin phone is Nokia 1202 which i am selling at RM99 and i get RM14 profit.This is a very basic and low end phone so of course the margin is low. But let say if i sell higher end phone like maybe Nokia E71, SE W995 etc i can get profit at least around RM50-RM70 for each phone.If it's not very branded like LG,i-mobile etc the margin is even higher.
Some places they might mark-up around RM20-30 only bcoz there are too many competitors in their area BUT,sadly to say that some of them will change the accessories in the package for example they change the battery to non-original one.And why they do that?See below;

Non-original compatible battery selling for RM15-20+
Original battery selling for RM70-100+

If the seller change the battery and sell the original battery for RM80,the seller get another RM50-60 profit from it.This normally happen at shopping malls bcoz those area have too many competitors and the rental is very high so in order for them to survive they do that.
(so for those who planning to get a phone,try not to get the cheapest one and just make sure the package is all original stuffs.)

Ok let's talk about SURVIVE.IMHO,in most of the business if not all,VOLUME is the key to survive and to generate profit.Same goes to handphone business. But tell me,there are so many handphone shops around,it's everywhere..so how many phone can one shop sell? Even if u sell it dirt cheap like what u said MAX RM10 profit, do u think it will attract a lot of people to buy? No i don't think so. It's not something that everyone buys every week or month.Even if u can sell it more by getting RM10 profit, it's not a KEY to survive.Why?
For example,a brand new E71 cost is RM1125.Then u sell it for RM1135 and get RM10 profit.Imagine,u have to pay the cost of RM1125 in order to get RM10 profit.I don't call this a business.The margin is not even 10%.
IMHO,the biggest KEY for handphone business nowadays is repair and service.U don't get to sell 10 handphone in a day but u can repair at least 5-10 handphone in a day but of course u need to know how to repair it.The margin for repair and service handphone is fairly good and it depends on ur skill as well.The more u know how to repair,the more u can get profit from it.For me,i think in business,service is always the biggest profit margin.
Secondly,sell accessories.People don't buy handphone everyday but every single person have a mobile phone or two.So u can imagine that how many accessories u can sell and then profit margin is pretty good too.Just try to sell more accessories.


Anyway,no hard feeling bro.Just my 2cents. Cheersss...

[quote=rafizi,Aug 21 2009, 10:30 AM]
OK i give an analogy. U open one handphone shop. sell nokia, sony bla bla. each handphone maybe u can profit RM10 max. so u manage to sell 10 handphones in 1 day, ur profit rm100. Lets face it, that's not gonna make u a millionaire

it is the same with ikan keli. For those not in the know, ikan keli is amongst the lowest priced fish u can buy. It basically has no value. Go to indonesia and u will understand, keli/lele is considered ikan longkang. So to be realistic, something like this needs to be done in volume. Just like the handphone, u actually see hundreds of handphone shop in one place. But in reality they are all owned by 2 maybe 3 towkays. This is because they wanna focus on volume, basically handphone is no value item. Dont confuse with the RM3000 bling bling phones, those are niche targeting anak orang kaya.

I am not guru to show u step by step. I did not go to bling bling college hehhe. If u ask me, just like Nike motto, JUST DO IT. Then u will slowly learn the in and outs. But u already have the key, which is VOLUME.


thanks alot for that advice. and you are right, the idea and the key word is the one i am looking for.

thx bro rafizi.... i visited his farm 2 days ago...it's amazing to see his farm. i get a clearer picture now about the obstacles and hardship he faced as well...he explained to me a lot. thx again.. need to find water source for it if i want to start that biz..... heh...