I agree,.. wht u've said juz now.. think for long term..

long term = investment
short term = trade

try this Rajawali marketing for more info..

this is another good strategy to sustain your biz. A good integrated farming I have seen is Cendawan->Cacing<-Pisang. All 3 products and their by-products are not wasted at all. In fact in countries like India where organic farming is huge, cacing farming is not done on its own but rather a side income to process their waste, usually they will have banana/mango etc plantations. So raw material is never purchased but found in abundance. Very few people startup businesses solely for rearing cacing n produce fertilisers. Thats why in Malaysia many cacing farmers bungkus because they rely on 3rd party for raw material, and they are usually expensive. I have seen people selling 1kg vermicompost for RM5. Come on, u wanna compete with chemical-based and trusted products with that price????? Aiyoh off topic already heheh but just hope that what I've written maybe of some use.

4lenAngel: Rajawali looks like a good company. Focusing on branding and packaging eventhough their products are available elsewhere. This is the way we should think. They are based in JB so I smell something big heheh. The fact that they have been highlighted in this forum shows potential.

Yes i agree with you. Infact buying from supplier for food from worm is a no brainer. Take a look around your neighborhood market. They are literally throwing out food for your worm . Just look at the amount of vegetable discarded per day. If they are smart, they would have already tie up with restaurants to obtain those vegetable from them. I have done this when i was doing garbage enzyme where i politely ask a restaurant to supply me those discarded limau and they happily comply with my request

anyone know where can i get African Nightcrawlers? btw, there are too many earthworms available everywhere..haha..perhaps rearing them can earn profit too? these worms are not just for vermicompost purpose, those who love fishing will be interested to buy these worms as baits too as these worms are the universal baits.. but, can earthworms be well-marketable as well?

IMHO, the earthworm market and its byproduct is getting too saturated . Everybody is trying to jump into this bandwagon now

are regular earthworms OK for composting, IINM the earthworms are 'burrowing' type of worms, so you will have leftover 'uneaten' medium on top. There could be a market for earthworms, but you will really have to tie up with kedai pancing/kolam pancing as they are the only consumers i can think of.

There a specific type for earthworm. Some are either surface eater or burrowing type. Well if you want to compost you can use any of them but of course some would say that this is better than other. Information on the web are widely scattered and inconclusive.

Hmm, no more questions about keli? Not lucrative or too risky??

lol..rafizi are you doing this business currently? how consistent is ur earning then?

rafizi..will get back to u...interesting to know more about this keli thing....

it seems that this keli business is getting known to many and many people are doing this business already. I think within a few months it is going to be a very competitive business..lol..

rafizi..can i come to your farm and learn how u do it?
i can give u cheap labor for 1 month also lol

@rafizi: may i knw wer is ur pond location?currently keli market ard how much per kg?

of course I am doing this la haha, my intention is to share info on keli and aquaculture in general but looks like this thread a bit cold, so i cucuk a bit hehe. Even if I say I am earning RMxxxxx where is the substance in just typing in this forum. Anybody welcome to my pond in Semenyih. Just PM me to get my phone number. It has already been a very competitive business because keli is a hardy fish, not manja like saltwater fish or some freshwater ones like ketutu/soonhock. So u see many people 'jumping' into this line. But jumping and surviving and jumping then dying are 2 diff things Also, the selling price is not as attractive as other high value fish. That's why production planning and volume is important, I myself make mistakes even today I missed a 200kg shipment because overlook my capacity and orders.

x13u5t3r: u serious aaa heheh. can come to my farm no prblm, free labour have to think first, maybe u spy from other farm want to kacau hahah just kidding.

eprince: main production in Semenyih but I have friends around Selangor that welcome u to visit too. market price i think mentioned before, but roughly RM3-3.50 borong for good quality ones. Below that....there is something wrong watchout

ps: those wanna visit should do early next month, bcos I will not be in Malaysia nxt week until end of month.

Hey bro Rafizi apart from doing keli.. we're planning to do ''Puyu'' (no idea wht its pronounced in english..) as well.. and wht we got to know is ROI is higher thn keli.. But lots procedures to be done such as water treatments..
U have any ideas how this goes ??
Well as wht i learned Keli - 1 kg = rm 3
Puyu - 1 kg = Rm 10 ??
Hmm guess no harm trying..

Ok. Anyone here want to borong my friend keli, can do that by calling him at 012-6065357. His name is Adi. He can support 1 tan a day. The price is RM 3.40 for 1 kg. His pond is in Merlimau, Melaka. Anything to ask, call him tapi cakap melayu, he cant understand english much. Huhu.

This post has been edited by yestrdy: Jul 13 2009, 11:52 PM

Ikan Puyu.. in english called Climbing Perch @ Anabas testudineus

can google to see the pic of the fish..

But i heard this puyu takes time to grow up.. any advice ??

Puyu is another attractive option, but needs about 7-8 months to mature! Considering that, many people prefer to rear higher value fish such as ketutu(soonhock), the ROI will be higher. Some of my friends started doing ketutu on the side since late last year already rubbing their hands waiting for CNY heheh wang mariiiii.

Porkism: The market is sophisticated nowadays. There is no value for fish being fed with chicken/pig insides (yes for the muslim readers, there are keli being fed pig insides). It is also easy to spot fish being fed with fish pellet or animal insides, just take a look at the belly, if it is yellowish then something is not right.