The selling price between fish from pond and fish from river is the same rite?


Look interesting.

river ones more expensive

How can you know the different if they the seller didn’t tell you?

if you look at the fish I doubt you can see the difference, but if you're pemborong then you collect from the cage you can see for yourself its from the river.

But I think most supplier are long time bizman, they will tell the truth unless you simply buy here and there, its quite competitive biz so if you cheat you wont get biz from that restoran in future. Most establish restoran are honest, coz customer go there enjoy the food, normally those small small tai chow are the ones who dont care, most important is cheap cheap.

If you remember last time jln peel has a famous place call chui mau (drunk cat), they used to serve very nice stim baung, but lately this few years I never go their shop coz they stop taking river baung but replace with mudpond, taste horrible. Another one is the famous tilapia restoran in SS19 roadside, last time very quality but nowadays also replace with low quality tilapia. Biz is just as good as last time coz famous already, many ppl cant tell the different, they see so jam pack they continue to go. Shop also knows not many ppl can tell the different, river and mudpond, only those really into fish will be able to distinguish.

Theres another trick very famous, ppl buy those adult tilapia from mud pond, then keep in cement pond for 3 weeks or so and sell them as san sui fei chow (clear water tilapia), the fish will have less mud smell but still cant compare to those like from semenyih dam type. But I cant really tell the different for tilapia as I hate the fish.

Thanks for the informative information about the different between river fish and mud pond fish.

Can you recommend me the best restaurant to eat freshwater fish? I want to try it because normally I eat salmon, pari and tenggiri. I’m newbie for freshwater fish.

Maybe I want to try the place that you mention before this. So, I can know differentiate the taste. So, I can compare the taste.

Really good ones are mostly at small town like raub, lipis, bidor and grik, In KL so far I think the best you can find for good quality fish and expert in steaming is at selayang tokyo restoran (patin) and another one at tmn miharja (baung) the restoran next to the hardware store.

haha.. I didnt know so much chinese youngsters are so into this fish business. =)
Better buck up guys because the fish farming business is being dominated by our malays friend. =) I am from Subang Jaya . If you guys interested to take fingerlings but usuall need to take in bulk , so drop me a mail k then maybe we can share buy. Antonio_Kane@Hotmail.com
Good Lucky Guys.. BTW Tilapia dont have much different , if u are well knowledge to settle the muddy taste then its ok ad. Go check out carrefour for life fish. haha , its not easy to make it into this business without knowledge , and very deep one. All the best guys =)

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Added on December 11, 2009, 10:42 pmhahha.. yeah.. river one more expensive.. coz its rate =.="" unless u plan to get from klang river.. haha
Its not that hard to tell the differences between a fish from farm or from river.. U just need to put more time n money .. haha
knowledge doesnt come free rite =)
But it'll take u less than 3 days to learn that for most fish.

This post has been edited by AntonioKane: Dec 11 2009, 10:42 PM

Hie,

A friend of mine in Johor asked my help to sell of his keli. He estimate he got at least 500kg for sale right now.

Mind PM me any buyer?

Side note: Anther friend want to sale around 100kg of Lintah... any buyer? PM or email me at bertuahagroorganics@gmail.com.

THANKS!

if its 500 kg i guess better approach those rests n at market or pasar malam..
GOod returns..

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Added on January 6, 2010, 7:36 pmHello ??

This post has been edited by 4lenAngel: Jan 6 2010, 07:36 PM

long time no look in here, sorry for any PMs or questions left unanswered. Busy with farm expansion. Welcome to visit and ask Qs.

well.. im back.. eh i want to know anybody who have ventured into this fish business and didnt make it?..

jz wanted to know what is the problems tht u guys face until have to close business?..

Must be there is no buyers or not enough buyers. I still wondering about the demand of this fish because I rarely see people eat this fish.

This post has been edited by POYOZER: Apr 7 2010, 10:56 AM

Try wondering near malay restaurants, look out for it, it is usually the most affordable fish for lauk. Mingle with foreign workers (indonesian/bangladeshi) and ask what fish they usually eat. Mind you their population is about 2-3 million in Klang Valley alone.

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Added on April 12, 2010, 11:34 pmThe people that I know who have closed shop or about to close shop, the reasons (from most common to least common):

1. Lack of knowledge and thinking it is SIMPLE to do
2. No commitment and treat it as get rich quick scheme, leave job to workers to do without supervision
3. No effort to market product, thinking market is so easy and will MAGICALLY come to them, that's why you see so many conmen with so called 'buy back offer' making quick bucks out of naive businessman
4. Sabotage, yes unfortunately this does happen for a few reasons but usually related to reason no. 2 because you leave everything to your worker and they dont really care. People come in and steal your fish right under your nose and you don't even realise.

That's mostly it, I think the reasons apply to any business in general. Also most people who do this biz are ones who have a bigger business and treat it as an 'investment'. Unfortunately fish biz is serious biz and need you personal attention especially in the early stages.

This post has been edited by rafizi: Apr 12 2010, 11:34 PM

rafizi, do you feed your fish with palette or other else?

Hi, found this forum today. Just finished reading page 1 to 9 and this is my 1st post.

I'm interested to learn how to start keli biz. Hope sifu here can share and mentor newbie.

Sifu Rafizi, can I meet up with you in your farm? I guese this should be a good starting point in my new venture.
T.q. Regards.

Hello jabz, sorry for being away from the forums. yes my fish are fed with pellets manufactured on my own. thank you

yes i have given u my contact details

Hi... Can give me your contact? Im interested into keli business. Tq

Hi Rifizi,

I have an uncle who would like to know more about this business. Mind if I have your contact and arrange a time to visit your farm?

I know this question was like almost 10 years ago but i hope it help those who still searching for the answer.

Usually catfish are called Nian Yu (鲶鱼) in Mandarin but Malaysian Chinese only call a type of catfish, Wallago attu and Wallagonia leerii (species) or known as Helicopter catfish in English and Ikan Tapah in Malay (Ikan Tapah are native to South Asia e.g. India and Southeast Asia country and China is East Asia) as Nian Yu (鲶鱼).

"Pak Sou Gong" in Cantonese refer to another type of catfish which is the Asian Redtail Catfish (Hemibagrus nemurus). Sometime they called the Two-spot Catfish (Mystus nigriceps) as "Pak Sou Gong" too. It is known as Ikan Baung in Malay.


While "Tho Sat" in Hokkien are the same as "Tong Sat" in Cantonese. The name refer to another type of catfish which is commonly known as Walking Catfish since it can live out of water and walk on the land like a snake. Usually during drought season when the pond or lake it live in are dry and it need to move to somewhere with more water. It is known as Ikan Keli in Malay.

Clarification and naming are different among different language especially when it come to fish.

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