Forumer you are complaining against: c.c.chong a.k.a mr_sekcee

Item being sold/bought: traded my e6750 + biostar i45 = p4 HT+intel faulty mobo+RM350

Original thread link: PM

Date of transaction: COD (21 June 09)

Details of the complaint :

We agree to trade the items as above, with no receipt, personal warranty of 1 week. And my lil bro with his fren also forumer, COD with this guy at the petrol gas station near Giant Batu Caves around 11 AM this morning. With no boxes, they exchange the mobo and proc. And my lil bro just randomly check as that guy assure me that his mobo is fine plus got manufacturer warranty.

My lil bro said that his fren(along with him today) used to traded with this guy, from far away he recognized that guy..warn my lil bro that this guy used to sell him faulty hardisk, but refunded. amount of deal is only RM15. so, my lil bro just pursue on with the deal.

On that case, to be specific on what happen, my lil bro fren bought a hardisk from him..and when reached home, suddenly realized its faulty after testing.
Then he called that guy asking for refund. At first, he does not agree as he claimed that my lil bro fren must have mishandled that HD. then talk after talk, he finally refund. (RM15, no big deal ha mister!!!)

On my case..he offered me to trade my proc and mobo for his proc and mobo + topup money. I agree as i really need to sell that mobo since not use anymore, but he convince me to trade also my e6750 with a great deal to seduce me. nice planning and move.

Well the COD when perfectly as deal earlier. but 15 mins after reach home, my lil bro tested that mobo, finds out that the mobo was indeed faulty. so he check all the connection, bla bla bla; and found that one or two capasitors 'patah' already. so he called bloody hel guy and ask to change the mobo with another one or atleast send to repair first. but that guy claim, my lil bro mishandled it. same bloody lame reason as the first case!! Well he got strong points though..

1st: He said that my bro didn't want to put that faulty mobo inside the box which he bring on that deal(the real story, that guy put my mobo on that box, so how my lil bro suppose to take that box??)

2nd: He said that this happen because that mobo was put in the bag, that might cause the damage. (FYI info mister, my mobo also put in the same bag with no box, and yet it still survive and damn your mobo capasitors are too high than the heatsink? as far as i know they are short enough that only 'patah' if directly contact!!!)

3rd: He claimed that the mobo was fine when he bought it from other forumer. (who da fu**n care!!!)

As such a rude, he blame my lil bro for damaging the mobo and refuse to refund/replace. He said that my lil bro macam lembu bawak barang, tidak pandai pegang same as my lil bro fren. after i see that mobo, i realized that so many repair marks on it. and i know i'd have been cheated. WELL DONE!

For now i didn't tested yet the proc since i got no mobo to test..maybe its also faulty..

Yeah mister..your trading with others are successfully done because u only buy from them, not trade.
I assume that his tactics are buying faulty craps, repair or atleast make it as in good condition, and trade.
And at the end of today, u got my 'baby', and i got your 'bab!'...nicely done.

Beware of this guy. I just want to clarify that this guy is not honest as he claimed from his PM with me.
Thanks for reading. Maybe i lose in this game, but i gain something important in my live. never trading again with anybody. if u want to sell it, just sell it.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 28 2009, 07:49 PM

is this the person

mr sekcee

don juz frame dat ppl trade a faulty mobo wib broken capasitor, u check everyting b4 trade. may b u mishandling da mobo or wutever.
da mobo is still under warranty, can send to rma if anyting happen, but i never heard dat capasitor will broken itself, juz oni some itchy hand dunno how to handle a mobo.
if u send to shop, da shop seller will scratch his head becoz of broken capasitor.

TS not check the mobo before trade (his brother COD with u, not himself)

u already prepared the answer for this situation (still under waranty, can send to RMA), so u already know the mobo has broken & that 1 week personal waranty for what?

This post has been edited by leangle: Jun 22 2009, 02:46 AM

c.c.chong and mr_sekcee is the same person kah?I dono that..

btw if still got personal warranty,seller should be responsible and try to see what best suits both party in this case =)

arr jangan lah gaduh2 tau,no good wan if fight oso.. Peace

so first of all.I think seller and buyer need to be professional and go meet each other.Coz seller need to see oso what is faulty and buyer need to prove and tell what is faulty oso.So from here try to work out a solution and IMO since the item is still under personal warranty,seller need to play a bigger part in trying to repair the item..and if got warranty from shop,just send for RMA la ek..but seller oso have their rights in defending their dignity as a seller,and by helping their buyer to solve the matter thru the best possible method is the best practice to follow =).We all are grown ups so I do not need to elaborate on what I mean here

Did u see the item before leave?

c.c.chong and mr_sekcee is da same person?

c.c.chong suka suka beli beli barang other ppl with low low price...

mr_sekcee very da sombong 1 punye orang...

hahaha...

but i never tot dat 2 nick is belong to 1 person...

lols

what is the meaning of 1 Week Personal warranty ?

what is RMA ?


this 2 thing is diffrent , 1 week personal warranty , its mean you will take responsibility to help customer warranty .

RMA = Return merchandise authorization , means you will return the faulty thing to the shop you bought .

dont simply type 1week personal warranty next time , put in NO WARRANTY , i'll not responsible to any broken part on it

some of the people are selling faulty thing to customer , still wanna blame them... but not help them ...

I was about to buy a processor from him.

thank god I found this thread.

if the mobo is under RMA why not u send it first la and give back to me..why i pula yg kne hantar? u said that u gib 1 week personal warranty..bodo.

do i giv u rosak punya mobo?? i giv u pure virgin maa!!!

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Added on June 22, 2009, 1:39 pmbut he is da same guy..and i can prove it. my database quite strong now.
and now maybe he is opening another account.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 22 2009, 01:44 PM

personal warranty mean the buyer hv cover the product during the period
mean if the item got problem even under warranty,the buyer hv the right request 4 refund..

tat wat the personal warranty mean....
so sorry 2 hear tat...
sell item 2 him b4 but nvr buy from him...
hope the case will solve soon

but this guy keep on repeating the same..he want me to send myself the mobo. wtf....

personal warranty still have so seller responsible

bro what is the brand of the mobo.. just try to send yourself just can say u r bad luck lor. if not you can send it to me.. I help bro send lar.. but shipping bro have to bare lor. If bro really don know send lar.

personal warranty means, the mobo no display or everyting iinstall but not run, not a damge like broken capasitor
go to check some senior here, do they heard any broken capasitor b4, oni some ppl not good in handling dat means make dis happen, doesn't matter .. if someone said personal warranty include damage or wutever, next time in lyn will more mess cause v trade everyting muz include insurance ... must cover their mishandling, drop or wutever.
if anyone said personal warranty is cover by all dis damage, pls show up lol, i'll buy n den broken da capasitor n ask for warranty, use some head la.
if u & fren r not experience to bundle a pc, damages will happen.

This post has been edited by c.c.chong: Jun 22 2009, 10:49 PM

thing is, broken capasitor is also considered in personal warranty as TS STATED HE/SHE DIDNT MISHANDLED IT , so who to blame? obviously people will point to seller which is u right?



it make it more obvious for u to give an excuse when buyer complaint by stating the sentence above right?


and why u create duplicate accounts in LYN? hmm... ?

if u buy a car, u got an accident, izzit cover by warranty or insurance?

This post has been edited by c.c.chong: Jun 22 2009, 11:03 PM

what does it related to this?

hmm ur avoiding my Q hehe, seems i will make it BIGGER for u to see.

TS STATED HE/SHE DIDNT MISHANDLED IT

see it adi ah?

and i found out u avoiding answering my extra Q

But in this case its just like the seller make the car accident..
Who's fault?

i'm senior member so can ask me??hehe
1stly, both of u need to clear things out..
anyone can confirm that the item is ok at 1st?
seller need to provide good info for example cpu-z...
me owez do backup in trading...
for example, i sold many gc in this forum...so i keep d gpu-z profile and print screen it with LYN as d background plus the date and time...
so that is my proof that my hardwares is still working so if buyer try to con me, i got proof what...hehe
so in this case, seller need to provide somtng strong or else seller need to comply the 7 days personal warranty...TQ

i have deal with mr_skee before..i buy from him cm sphire.last month..first my impressions is he is very langsi man.but...the deal was sucessfully.because i have check it first then buy....

Dude what thing u buy from him?
U cant test/check a mobo and proc outside from home.....

Thanks u guys out there that support me..obviously this guy never take any responsible at all. he doesnt want to solve this problem on table. just whining and claim that my lil bro mishandle it and giving ridiculous example(etc: bodo gile compare trading mobo with car)

it is so obvious that guy create situation here and he already prepare for his reasons.

and im still waiting....got 3 days left..

which means after 3 days left both of his acc deserve "DISPUTE" tag....

Do anybody understand what is personal warranty?

It means if anything is wrong with the item within the warranty period, seller bear responsibilities la... Else why bother giving personal warranty? Dont want to bear responsibility? Then should state 'AS IS" basis... no warranty.

And where is the seller? TS PM him already? Then seller dont come and explain, then he is a CONMAN la...

He already reply..but with stupid reason..

what he said?

frankly say,personal warranty mean the seller hv 2 bear the warranty during the period
that wat personal warranty mean....if jz let the buyer claim,tat call manufacturing warranty...

giving lame excuses lah..
he wants me to send the mobo by myself..
until now, no reply..

he now seldom online...maybe now he is using a new account.

i buy cpu cooler cm sphire from him.last month. i cod with him with honda car.in outside from lowyat.he is very langsi man.always not negeo.but before buy i have checked nicely and buy...

Personal warranty by all mean, seller will take full response upon part/ hardwares he sold in period time. That the risk, you have to prepare with 1001 excuse from your previous buyer in that particular time. If the board still HAS warranty, seller shall help buyer to RMA & not the buyer go RMA themself. If you can't stand such situation, I really advise you not to do online trading.

Thats all..

TS can u put a pic to show us how mobo cap broken???is very serious???

This not about how serious of the broken.. the issue here is how responsible he is.. and i test the mobo, faulty. from my sight maybe the the cap broken, who knows other may affect the faulty? so how serious or not, he should send to the RMA, not me!!!!!!

this guy betul betul very 'pukima',rosak tukar baik....i don think handle can make the mobo broken,the guy already know mobo was faulty,then he want find a 'water fish'.very bad lucky lo u..

ohh well, if he still insist not to reply u, u can pm admins to check on his IP to check on his duplicate accounts that he has just created to ban the extra's to prevent him from scamming people again.

btw how much did u lost on this mobo ah?

i deal wif him b4 few times. ya he alway say no nego when i buy thing from him... but when he buy thing from me. giving alot of excuss as oil la . come here to trade far la .. alot reason ., and alway we agreed a price. he come to me cod and will change to lower price .. so i has put him in my black list long time ago

unless seller can provide the item before sent out was in good condition . if not ..seller have to take the responsible

TS, u take pic where the two cap broken la, if too "terselit jauh di dalam" we all know this trader/seller really irresponsible. & u also mention bout repair marks. see if he still can say it is ur bro fault or not

@trader/seller, if u don't want help TS send to RMA, give back his mobo & take ur faulty one & ur money la, he trade to use it, not for faulty collectible

excuse me..im the person which is the 1st prob shown in this thread(hardisk faulty)..im also a good frenz with TS..so the true itz,the same reason came out from the hell mouth..didn't handle carefully..but i want to prove sumting about the faulty hrdisk..the stories is,after i got refund from his hell bloody f**k..i find and got a 2nd hrdisk from my uncle..the hrdisk use to rpair my old pc..i bring my old pc to my frenz house at kajang(im now practical in here)..with the same motorcycle..1st point-no prob at all..then,i bring the my uncle hrdisk also with same method(cover and roll with clothes and put in under my motocycle seat) that i COD with mr_sekcee..2nd point-no prob with my uncle hardisk..and now my old pc can run as good as pentium 3 performance..conclusion is..all forumer can think how the same method i do,cannot make my uncle hardisk faulty at all(with along the road goes to kajang)..lu pikir la sendri..dont juz make a same reason la..lucky i follow my frenz..kalu tidak,lg terok la jdnye..

thanks for all forumer that support my frend..

This post has been edited by Sketel: Jun 23 2009, 07:27 PM

suppose the proc and mobo itself cause around rm500++...so total lost is around rm150 sumthing..
im not gonna let our community destroy because this a$$hole mothaf**ka..

so help u guys..before he cheat again, i warned u not to help him grow his busines here..our beloved forum.

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Added on June 23, 2009, 7:41 pm

U guys see and judge from what he claimed to be...





loyal & fair?? go to hel!!






he give me some proof that he actually a honest seller/buyer...bab! punya olang.


To all fellow friends...please beware of this man. he might strike again..!


later i post his real pic.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 23 2009, 07:41 PM

honestly i dealt with him several times..no prob at all...i sold him 2 boards and proc if my memory is good...and i willing to deal with him in future...he smsed me about this matter oso...he asked me if the motherboard can be repaired..and sending it to electrician..

good to hear that if its true..
he never SMS me..and said to be responsible. im not eager to see him again infront of my face!

to be honest, i can feel more easy going on this matter if he willing to send this board to RMA or he can swap it with another board.

now i ask u one thing, how did u feel if u trade a good mobo with faulty one ha...

personal warranty... its means da mobo not functioning well as a normal mobo, not included damages like broken capasitor or broken into 2 pieces.
now can u show some of the picture on which part da capasitor broken.
den oni v can hear some opinion from some other senior here, izzit can send it to rma onot, coz dis not a normal defect, dis is a damages.
i oso wana check wib those seller, who can gib warranty included damages, i think will noone here.
if da mobo not functioning without any broken caps, may b dis my fault.
if u can't see da broken caps, may b u oso can hear da sound someting is droping. correct ka.

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Added on June 24, 2009, 6:29 amif any seller can give warranty wib damages or poor handling, pls show up himself, i'll gib u many many business

Aresz brother, if da mobo is not funtioning or wat, i'll send it to rma immediately n say sorry to u oso doesn't matter.
but dis case is differen, u juz put da mobo in ur schooll bag, but i dowan mention on it, coz tok many tings can't solve da problem
post da picture asap
show which caps broken at which palce of mobo

This post has been edited by c.c.chong: Jun 24 2009, 08:18 AM

A cap can be soldered back anyway. The blue colored test is considered back-mailing?

This post has been edited by SurpriseZZZZZ: Jun 24 2009, 08:50 AM

one question,

did u check the motherboard when he cod with u?

i heard u put the motherboard in ur sling bag..

btw, i guess its ur fault, if the board really had broken caps, and yet u walked away juz like dat...

i bet everyone will be extra careful when cod, coz it gives us opportunity to check the item we buy..

guess c.c.chong oso dowan to be in hot soup for selling u faulty motherboard...

if he wanna con, y wanna cod?

if he says ur tpower has broken caps, wat would u do to him?

show us some pics, with the broken caps...

caps can be soldered back..no big deal...soldered back, if kenot use, send go rma, den take it back...

irresponsible...
dont provide any personal warranty if u cannot bear the risk...
no point talk loud with ur blue wording la....

unless u can provide pic of the mobo b4 trade,u hv 2 bear the responsible
tat all....neither of u can provide who correct n wrong at the 1st place...
so still is the seller hv 2 bear wat he agree at the 1st place n cover the product during the period....

personal warranty not included physical damage la

This post has been edited by c.c.chong: Jun 24 2009, 10:12 AM

dude...i guess ur pointing finger at the wrong person, well...personal warranty is only applicable to the item where its not functional but no physical damage...tats wat we call personal warranty for speeding up the process rather than taking the item and rma it urself...without personal warranty, i bet TS just have to rma the board himself

the blue wording is to prove you all to be reasonable..physical damage and yet ask for refund or warranty? come on...if u were in c.c.chong's shoes, wat wud u feel? personal warranty can also mean refunding back if TS not satisfied with the item, WITH condition that the item has no physical damage..

buyer also must check the item properly b4 taking from seller...tats normal...as i say...COD gives us opportunity to check the item...all items i sold to seller, i will check b4 selling...and he has no complain and continue dealing with me...

seller did not say he did not agree to cover the product if the item is faulty, but there also got no prove to show the item is already physically damage during cod or b4 cod, or after cod...till now still got no picture from TS as prove..

no offence but if you put a mobo inside a sling bag, i doubt it would broke. sometimes i've even kicked my pc casing yet its still working lol

yea..tats show u duno how to handle pc hardware properly..

yeap, you got it, not into pc thingy though. i use it only for web surfing.

ya..me too..i doubt it would broke the capacitor if put inside a sling bag..unless they're many hard or solid things in the bag that can broke the capacitor when moving on..but again, i think it has low possibility..juz my opinion..i used to put mobo in bag also, never broken..

many ting will happen on his way back, dats call physical damages

any cpu-z screenshot as prove that the mobo stil functioning before cod?

da board back from intel rma
there's an orange sticker in da static back, izzit still nit any screen shot ?

This post has been edited by c.c.chong: Jun 24 2009, 11:32 AM

now, u put yourself in my shoe..
u confidently see the board as ok when COD. in addition that guy say it was from RMA. so, do u still want to check it properly when COD? the mobo is protected with plastic. the capasitor broke at proc and RAM area..which totally short2 caps. do u find its possible that the mobo will broke its cap in the bag? ridiculous.

as a proof, i will post the pic..but what for? still dont proof anything. that guy will still blame me causing the physical damage..as u said there is no proof to the item is already physical damage during COD, before, or after..am i rite?

now i am collecting money to buy new mobo..to test that proc. hopefully its not faulty too..and if it was, that guy still want to blame me for physical handling?? will see...

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Added on June 24, 2009, 12:58 pmIf u put the mobo in the box too, it might have chances the caps will broke..who knows?

There was nothing in the bag...empty. the mobo itself strapped with the bag.
so u cant blame my lil bro causing the damage..as u call him lembu, u too can be lembu.
as u both might have chances to broke that caps..

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Added on June 24, 2009, 1:26 pmAnd for u mister..u said like u can judge a faulty mobo with just a slightly look?? and who knows the caps is causing the faulty as from top they look like in good condition. i just said that i recheck again after i test it and i can see the leg is not touching anymore..there's one or two caps have that condition.

if he wanna con me why he want to COD???
what is your point? obviously he want to let go craps mobo and trade with a good mobo so that he can sell it in high price..

u can look on how i take care of that mobo..and i don't sell crappy stuffs!!


This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 24 2009, 01:26 PM

i feed this is con case,coz i don think handle become cap broken,i sell 2 set mobo to buyer v cod without any problem,then this is my experience, now i think best settle is is the guy take to RMA no TS...

ya..me too think that it is almost impossible to broke the capacitor just by put it in the bag..coz i did it many times, never broke single one..my old mobo also i put inside drawer with many hard and solid things like psu, hsf, old speaker and many other thing, always open and close the drawer..dont have any single capacitor broke..

so, i think it is better for both of you to post screenshot of cpu-z and the mobo to prove that you are right..also better hope that the proc is not faulty too..

lol..den its a funny case for u both...

well...if i were in ur shoes, i wouldnt wana open a thread like this firing ppl...and yet u bring up old matters like the hdd he sold u...well, even he refunded u, and yet u still nid to bring tat matter back?

tink it over..

if u asked me again, if i were in ur shoes, let me ask myself, wat would have happened till the 2 caps broke?

not to say a slight look, but to hav a proper look around...

aiya, come on...this guy got money...i noe him, i would have LOL'ed if he wana u because of the motherboard...ROFL if he uses this way to trade of old mobo to get ur mobo..

whether its from RMA or not, i still will check if i had the opportunity...

perhaps this c.c.chong guy hav some matter over his usage of his language which im concerned sumtimes, (manners, language, etc.etc) which might offended me sumtimes over the past deals..

con case will be like arumugham's, which i got conned RM500...deposit before COD..my fault...

i bet urs will be only misunderstandings which can be dealt out of forum rather than spoiling ppl's name...

me too man,
3 time buy mobo w/o box n put in beg oso no problem
takkan la bro ts so stupid one??

so now what c.c.chong..we can see yur honest after my frend and i test your proc with new mobo from shop..if the faulty aso..i think u are lembu..

If physical damage then personal warranty should no longer be valid i guess..? If you can see the broken capacitor then ur bro should have seen it during the deal.. That's what COD is for..

Im not siding any sides.. We don't know who is telling the truth here.. Best thing is to just meet the seller and go and claim RMA together..

if someone wanna trick ur eye,they will jz cod with u like it it ntg...
wat i mean is the capasitor might jz broken 1side but not totally...
frankly,no one can prove whose wrong n correct ..

but it kinda hard 2 say...
both the seller n buyer jz meet up n settle it la...
no point reply on the thread d on the way the seller respond...
it only hv 2 solution which is sent for rma o ask the seller 2 meet up discuss...

This post has been edited by Darren: Jun 24 2009, 08:13 PM

then what is your problem? did i ask your opinion mister? did i ask your trading history? im not the first who blaming people. he the one who accusing my lil bro..
now we talk about responsibility here..if he on the right side, and why didnt he the one who suppose asking me, not u..i rather settle this matter outside rather then whining up here..your deal with him successful, so just shut up and u can deal how many time do u like. in my trade, i felt cheated. so, this is my problem. stay out of it will ya..what makes me piss off is because he totally blame my lil bro..not responsible at all.


in PM he did mention if got faulty he will send to RMA. so now where is that word?
if my intention to spoil his name, sorry i got a lot of work to do. im opening this thread as im not satisfied with him. taking this as simple matter.
who cares if got lot money..i have money too. i can buy his mobo if i want. but as i said, i dun need it.

im opening this thread to alert people..what kind of guy he is. speaking of sending to RMA, i can even repair the board myself...this is just to show how responsible of him..doing business with no honest..

u can say that u will check if had opportunity..because it is not in your shoe now..its mine. if u in my shoe now, u will also defend yourself..can u accept a silly reason...the mobo caps broken because put in a bag..well mister, we can do a test to prove your assumptions. let me now carry the mobo on my back, and see whether the caps broken or not..LOL at yourself.

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Added on June 24, 2009, 8:36 pmthe caps not broke into two pcs...its still there..but not longer in contact..just a little lift off from the soldering. if we see from top, we cannot see its broken unless we see it from side. so if send to RMA, they will be laughing as it can be soldered back..the point is, if the faulty is because that caps, fine..but who knows if it comes from other parts. what is the purpose of me to lying? i traded my non faulty mobo and proc. do i need to create a story to get back my mobo? LOL.. i plan to let go of it as i need money to study.. and why i didnt sold the mobo rather than trading? is because my lil bro still need to use a PC at his campus. and what do i get? caps that are broken because put the mobo in sling bag..nice reason by the way.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 24 2009, 08:36 PM

use logic, the cap's leg (i think 1 of the legs) not in contact, but still in it place (not bend or whatsoever), so if the leg broken coz by itchy hand (like our loyal & fair trader say) it must be bended.

If or not this case settle, i'll promise to close this thread when the personal warranty period is over..
and i do accept my lost..my attention is to alert others. to be extra cautions before deal with this guy.. that guy himself put his reputation bad on taking responsibility.

as its not over yet, i still have my right to defend myself..i am his customer. i have a right to complain. and im not satisfied with his act and responsibility. we all know how sensitive of electronics peripherals are..but your reason of accusing my lil bro is not acceptable..i often get that kind of reason. a lame reason to be precise. u see the opportunity to create the reason as my lil bro put the mobo in bag, while u put in a box. if i in your place, i will came out with that reason as a way to not take any responsible. but we all have brains and knows how to handle that thingy even if we put it in the bag..my lil bro put that tpower in the same bag..travel from Ampang to Batu Caves..takes 30 minutes travel..does it have broken caps? while your mobo put in that bag, from batu caves to sri gombak...around 10 minutes travel..u figure it out yourself..logic thinking la..

i know that u will also lost if u take the responsibility..but same goes to me..now, i felt lost too. if i just accept that reason, and sitting down watching that faulty mobo, does the mobo will 'heal' ? this is my action to atleast get something that can cover my lost and your lost too. we can avoid this by handle this matter together. but why do u just put this matter on my shoulder?

i expect the mobo is not faulty same as mine. and u suddenly blame all this matter to my lil bro..so is that fair?
do all you guys out there will accept broken caps is due to the mobo put in bag?

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Added on June 24, 2009, 9:21 pmthats true.. if the leg is bended or the caps was totally tercabut, it is obviously by itchy hand or must have directly touched. but the caps are still there, straight leg..minor lift from side, just few millimeter and can see non contact..it can be soldered back. but whats the point..i still cover up the cost.
if the caps was damage due to the sling bag issue, the caps will totally missing from that board. tercabut terus. but the caps are still there. proof to me that it was in that condition before i test the mobo. that is why i dont accept the lame excuses.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 24 2009, 09:21 PM

i said the board is still under warranty, juz in case anyting happen u can send to rma but now is differen, not da mobo not functioning, caps broken



This post has been edited by c.c.chong: Jun 24 2009, 10:33 PM

so u want me to send to RMA? do u want me to look stupid? why not u send it on behalf of me..cannot rite? because u 100% blame the faulty on me..go ahead. i dont mind..but if u want this case solve, then atleast show your responsibilities!!

u show da picture first

if i snap it, it won't be clear..i got no SLR. see the mobo yourself..and send it to get fix. i dun want your money. i want the mobo operated. after that i will satisfied. and im willing to spend the cost to post the mobo directly to you as long as u can fix it. that makes us 50-50 responsible.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 24 2009, 11:05 PM

aiyo TS bring out old cases to show how not-good this seller is ma.

who cares c.c.chong got money or not, cheating still is cheating, who will wanna throw away a faulty mobo and not to get some profit out of it by trying their best to cheat ppl pulak? even a rich man will definitely find ways to maximise his profit right? including a bad seller like c.c.chong

and i guess, u must b his friend bah, helping him so much

and he still never reply regarding duplicate accounts, why? if try to scam adi, just log off change IP and log in new account again ah? lol

u oso his fren izzit, or he upload a gal's picture so get more advantage
duplicate account, one for buy .. one for sell, whats wrong ?
so no complicated

This post has been edited by c.c.chong: Jun 24 2009, 11:08 PM

what advantage do u mean? now you care about my avatar pula? wtf..

hahaa...i m not his friend..he is my customer and i m his customer..tats all..

well, if i refund u back the faulty item, u still wanna say i not good? LOL

who cares i his friend or not, thing is, look at everybody's reply, all not song with u, why? can't b we all hate u caz u kill our family right? its caz everybody knw how sucky u r as a trader that don even wan to admit wat u hv did wrong.

i believe rules in every forum said that we don need duplicate accounts right? for what one for sell one for buy? hmm let me correct for u, one for scam, one also for scam nice try for giving such lame excuse

it is to proof he is a bad seller that has bad rep, and also to proof he rude and not recommended to trade with, its to warn ppl

FiF2, i check ur previous thread record, u r not a trader or buyer here

stop minding others..will ya..the problem is not settle yet..

lol don need change topic lo u hehe, hmm if u wan, i can send u a list of all my megaupload customers names to u and also some customers YM and MSN if u wan

why? wanna challenge me ah? i not scared de, caz...i never scam or trade with ppl with any faulty items

u can try call intel or email intel wib da serial no., n tell wut's ur problem now
see whether they can accept da mobo onot

and why me? why not u..u wanna let go off your hands is it?

LOL ... if seller want to let go off his hand as u claim ... then he wouldn't waste his time to reply u here.

As I understand that ALL SELLER here can provide personal warranty and off course depends on situation ...As for your case .... is capacitor leg broken and can be consider physical damage... so from this point .... who seller can give such a personal warranty ??

Furthermore the capacitor leg is very difficult to break or even notice so how do u confirm and pin point that is that particular capacitor create problem.... so to be fair for both part is better TS go get a snap of the pic and post it here so that all the expert can really see the defective part..

i agree with TS that he want to lett go off his hand..bcos if not, he will do as his claim that he will send RMA if got faulty.but he didnt..he juz tell TS to do so by himself..
if reply here, it juz an easy task to do and juz take few minutes..

so how about the processor?it is in good condition or faulty one too?i wonder..what excuse will he give this time if the processor is faulty too..put in the bag..or put in pocket..

if his eyes very sharp n can discover whereabouts da broken caps witout any tester, i'm really appreacite on him

This post has been edited by c.c.chong: Jun 25 2009, 08:29 AM

da board is not in me n i haven see any picture yet
if u don touch da caps, do u can discover whereabouts a broken caps?

This post has been edited by c.c.chong: Jun 25 2009, 08:47 AM

Yup Bro .... I think everyone should just save thier comments and stop pointing finger whos wrong and whos right .... let TS snap the pictures and have it post on here ...

I will only allow him to see the board himself. I don't want any assumption from outsider. But it looks like he don't want to cooperate.

no offense aresz, but you already did that when you decide to file a dispute against the accused here in the first place. so why not post the photos for all to see and be done with it?!

anyway, the ball is in your court.

Yo Bro just post the picture. IF so claim "I don't want any assumption from outsider", then why are you creating this dispute tread? You want to let public know your situation yet you don't want to fully cooperate for us to assist you. Picture tell a thousand of words so better for you to get a camera phone or camera, snap it and post it here so that taiko-taiko here can help you

This post has been edited by lingloong: Jun 25 2009, 02:21 PM

yes me too
i also put him in my blacklist seller
mr_sekcee "suka putar belit cakap"
1st deal harga lain,last deal (final) harga lain & at thread harga lain "cakap tak serupa bikin"
so many reason contoh petrol charges so he markup the price when we start to pay him
i never deal with suck seller like this before
pls everyone beware


why he register new nickname?cover bad record bcoz nickname mr_sekcee dah buruk kan?

if u still want cari makan in lyn pls settle the problem.

Dear TS
Please put seller nickname at title

This post has been edited by marinara: Jun 25 2009, 03:04 PM

Caps #1 Side View and Top View








Caps #2 Side View and Top View


As I said, my phone cam is bad. the blurry images can't see the true condition unless see it with your own eyes..
If u guys notice from the top, it seems like nothing faulty. but if u take a look at side in real condition, u can see clearly the caps are no longer in contact/touch.

honestly and swear i didn't touch any of the components on board after i test it. just take a deep look to detect, and i found two caps as above. and i just made a presumption that the faulty was caused by that two caps. i'm also not sure, but if we logically think, we can say that the mobo was faulty because of that caps. after that i 'quarantine' that mobo to avoid more disaster. and just now i took it off from safe place to snap pics.

and this is obviously nothing to do with the sling bag issue as claim by that guy.

it might be directly contact (etc: itchy hand) or a setup by that guy to hid it from detected by slightly vision.
yeah, probably my lil bro take a look from top, it seems like nothing faulty..who knows the caps will broken? if he knew it, he wouldn't take the mobo home.

blurr la ts

TS already state he don't have SLR, so TS & fair c.c.chong must meet to settle this. see now c.c.chong, the caps not broken into pieces coz by itchy hand, standing still at their places cap 1 & 2 also at two different location, come to think, if u have already broke 1 cap then ur hand still itchy to touch another cap? & if it coz by sling bag (naughty sling bag ) the caps must at least bent a little (the cap legs is short one la, can't easily broken when put in a sling bag)

the pic cannot see clearly lar....maybe get a cam tat can do macro shots?
or a webcam....last time I manage to get my prolink webcam to focus till can see my pimples clearly..(yuck) .

wat about the repairs u claim he did to the board which u suspect of?

can snap and highlight it? let us judge on tat.If u r willing to tat is.

Now after i snap the images for you guys to judge(sorry for bad images), u can come to Ampang to see its true condition.
But still that guy don't want to be responsible. I realize that he make nasty replies in order to make me felt fed-up and lastly i drawn the issue to be settled. Well, to be clear, the personal warranty he provides me in our deal will end this sunday.

So got 3 days more until i close down this thread. by now felt like useless talking to that moron.
What is the point to show prove if he doesn't show any responsible..he still want to put this on my own.

He doesn't came out with any solutions (unless the lame old solution: send to RMA by myself)

If u guys think that this man deserve to do trading in our beloved forum, pursue on. Do it on your own risk. No offense from me. I will still doing trading, and watch out for my siggy. I will completely ban him in my entire life!!

I had enough of cursing people. If is true he in the right side, he should dare to see the mobo himself. And i already offer him. to spend the cost to send the mobo by parcel in front of his door as long as i got the mobo repaired.

And honestly, i still don't want to accept the reason of the mobo is damage due by sling bag..childish reason for a grown up man.
wait until somebody smack up your face with that mobo. i am not blackmailing. one day..but not from me. maybe others who are totally piss off with him, will teach him a lesson. swear to God, if i hear it, and i will join the forces too.

isn't intel 945GNT???

intel dp35dp

uish bro....lu punya mobo tu original intel kan? barang baik tu bro.waranti 3 tahun.tapi bab patah tak tahu lepas ke idak....tu mahal tu dulu.rm 300++..generasi sebelum P31.pastu version P bukan G.barang baik nih..

Waa... Hope everything will be fine aresz.
Sorry I had to cancel our deal as you dont want to post your mobo.

c.c.choong be responsible la for what u`ve done. Dont just give your lame excuses/reason.
Better you meet her to solve this. Talking here is just a waste. How does it feel if someone do this to you choong?

MMM ... bro I think is not fair that you straight point the finger to c c chong .... as you can see that those pics is broken capacitor so is consider physical damage ... so how do you (as a seller) to provide Physical Damage warranty to the goods ?? Another questions is why TS know that two(2) particular capacitors caused that mobo fail to start ?

Sorry TS nothing personal here .... if I just brought this mobo and found that it cannot start i will inform seller that this mobo got problem but would not know whats the actual causes ... BUT in your case you inform seller and complaint that two capacitors broken ... ( come on .. logically u will just mention that board got problem but you seem to know more ...like what causes the mainboard failure )

So now is better not to point finger to who wrong or right but rather how to fix that mobo .... so if we keep complaint who is wrong or who is right then at the end ... the mobo still not fix...


P/S ... to all master sifu ... who saw the pic and have any good idea how to fix that board please comment

u just think logic la..how the small kapasitor can broken with itch hand..the heat sink is higher then kapasitor and don't think la TS want to touch the mobo saje2 jew..if the kapasitor in good condition and we touch it,it cannot broken ma..just bending and we can straight back..itz juz my logically thinking and basic teory..luckily TS check the mobo after test..if not,maybe c.c.chong or mr_sekcee can give another reason that the mobo failure..i know this guy when i cod buy hardisk with him..a person who want blame his customer..

This post has been edited by Sketel: Jun 26 2009, 05:27 AM

i think la, i think, seller sell faulty item to u, then blame buyer, standart la seller like this, hak hak hak tuihhhhh!!!!!

I think you better learn understand my explanation. As I said from the previous pages...I just suspected that the two caps are causing the faulty. not that I confidently said it was caused by it. and if i just mention the board was faulty, then he will give a reason that this mobo was ok with him.

Aiya...cakap orang putih pun tak paham2...cakap melayu la macam ni.