Forumer you are complaining against: c.c.chong a.k.a mr_sekcee

Item being sold/bought: traded my e6750 + biostar i45 = p4 HT+intel faulty mobo+RM350

Original thread link: PM

Date of transaction: COD (21 June 09)

Details of the complaint :

We agree to trade the items as above, with no receipt, personal warranty of 1 week. And my lil bro with his fren also forumer, COD with this guy at the petrol gas station near Giant Batu Caves around 11 AM this morning. With no boxes, they exchange the mobo and proc. And my lil bro just randomly check as that guy assure me that his mobo is fine plus got manufacturer warranty.

My lil bro said that his fren(along with him today) used to traded with this guy, from far away he recognized that guy..warn my lil bro that this guy used to sell him faulty hardisk, but refunded. amount of deal is only RM15. so, my lil bro just pursue on with the deal.

On that case, to be specific on what happen, my lil bro fren bought a hardisk from him..and when reached home, suddenly realized its faulty after testing.
Then he called that guy asking for refund. At first, he does not agree as he claimed that my lil bro fren must have mishandled that HD. then talk after talk, he finally refund. (RM15, no big deal ha mister!!!)

On my case..he offered me to trade my proc and mobo for his proc and mobo + topup money. I agree as i really need to sell that mobo since not use anymore, but he convince me to trade also my e6750 with a great deal to seduce me. nice planning and move.

Well the COD when perfectly as deal earlier. but 15 mins after reach home, my lil bro tested that mobo, finds out that the mobo was indeed faulty. so he check all the connection, bla bla bla; and found that one or two capasitors 'patah' already. so he called bloody hel guy and ask to change the mobo with another one or atleast send to repair first. but that guy claim, my lil bro mishandled it. same bloody lame reason as the first case!! Well he got strong points though..

1st: He said that my bro didn't want to put that faulty mobo inside the box which he bring on that deal(the real story, that guy put my mobo on that box, so how my lil bro suppose to take that box??)

2nd: He said that this happen because that mobo was put in the bag, that might cause the damage. (FYI info mister, my mobo also put in the same bag with no box, and yet it still survive and damn your mobo capasitors are too high than the heatsink? as far as i know they are short enough that only 'patah' if directly contact!!!)

3rd: He claimed that the mobo was fine when he bought it from other forumer. (who da fu**n care!!!)

As such a rude, he blame my lil bro for damaging the mobo and refuse to refund/replace. He said that my lil bro macam lembu bawak barang, tidak pandai pegang same as my lil bro fren. after i see that mobo, i realized that so many repair marks on it. and i know i'd have been cheated. WELL DONE!

For now i didn't tested yet the proc since i got no mobo to test..maybe its also faulty..

Yeah mister..your trading with others are successfully done because u only buy from them, not trade.
I assume that his tactics are buying faulty craps, repair or atleast make it as in good condition, and trade.
And at the end of today, u got my 'baby', and i got your 'bab!'...nicely done.

Beware of this guy. I just want to clarify that this guy is not honest as he claimed from his PM with me.
Thanks for reading. Maybe i lose in this game, but i gain something important in my live. never trading again with anybody. if u want to sell it, just sell it.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 28 2009, 07:49 PM

if the mobo is under RMA why not u send it first la and give back to me..why i pula yg kne hantar? u said that u gib 1 week personal warranty..bodo.

do i giv u rosak punya mobo?? i giv u pure virgin maa!!!

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Added on June 22, 2009, 1:39 pmbut he is da same guy..and i can prove it. my database quite strong now.
and now maybe he is opening another account.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 22 2009, 01:44 PM

but this guy keep on repeating the same..he want me to send myself the mobo. wtf....

Thanks u guys out there that support me..obviously this guy never take any responsible at all. he doesnt want to solve this problem on table. just whining and claim that my lil bro mishandle it and giving ridiculous example(etc: bodo gile compare trading mobo with car)

it is so obvious that guy create situation here and he already prepare for his reasons.

and im still waiting....got 3 days left..

He already reply..but with stupid reason..

giving lame excuses lah..
he wants me to send the mobo by myself..
until now, no reply..

he now seldom online...maybe now he is using a new account.

This not about how serious of the broken.. the issue here is how responsible he is.. and i test the mobo, faulty. from my sight maybe the the cap broken, who knows other may affect the faulty? so how serious or not, he should send to the RMA, not me!!!!!!

suppose the proc and mobo itself cause around rm500++...so total lost is around rm150 sumthing..
im not gonna let our community destroy because this a$$hole mothaf**ka..

so help u guys..before he cheat again, i warned u not to help him grow his busines here..our beloved forum.

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Added on June 23, 2009, 7:41 pm

U guys see and judge from what he claimed to be...





loyal & fair?? go to hel!!






he give me some proof that he actually a honest seller/buyer...bab! punya olang.


To all fellow friends...please beware of this man. he might strike again..!


later i post his real pic.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 23 2009, 07:41 PM

good to hear that if its true..
he never SMS me..and said to be responsible. im not eager to see him again infront of my face!

to be honest, i can feel more easy going on this matter if he willing to send this board to RMA or he can swap it with another board.

now i ask u one thing, how did u feel if u trade a good mobo with faulty one ha...

now, u put yourself in my shoe..
u confidently see the board as ok when COD. in addition that guy say it was from RMA. so, do u still want to check it properly when COD? the mobo is protected with plastic. the capasitor broke at proc and RAM area..which totally short2 caps. do u find its possible that the mobo will broke its cap in the bag? ridiculous.

as a proof, i will post the pic..but what for? still dont proof anything. that guy will still blame me causing the physical damage..as u said there is no proof to the item is already physical damage during COD, before, or after..am i rite?

now i am collecting money to buy new mobo..to test that proc. hopefully its not faulty too..and if it was, that guy still want to blame me for physical handling?? will see...

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Added on June 24, 2009, 12:58 pmIf u put the mobo in the box too, it might have chances the caps will broke..who knows?

There was nothing in the bag...empty. the mobo itself strapped with the bag.
so u cant blame my lil bro causing the damage..as u call him lembu, u too can be lembu.
as u both might have chances to broke that caps..

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Added on June 24, 2009, 1:26 pmAnd for u mister..u said like u can judge a faulty mobo with just a slightly look?? and who knows the caps is causing the faulty as from top they look like in good condition. i just said that i recheck again after i test it and i can see the leg is not touching anymore..there's one or two caps have that condition.

if he wanna con me why he want to COD???
what is your point? obviously he want to let go craps mobo and trade with a good mobo so that he can sell it in high price..

u can look on how i take care of that mobo..and i don't sell crappy stuffs!!


This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 24 2009, 01:26 PM

then what is your problem? did i ask your opinion mister? did i ask your trading history? im not the first who blaming people. he the one who accusing my lil bro..
now we talk about responsibility here..if he on the right side, and why didnt he the one who suppose asking me, not u..i rather settle this matter outside rather then whining up here..your deal with him successful, so just shut up and u can deal how many time do u like. in my trade, i felt cheated. so, this is my problem. stay out of it will ya..what makes me piss off is because he totally blame my lil bro..not responsible at all.


in PM he did mention if got faulty he will send to RMA. so now where is that word?
if my intention to spoil his name, sorry i got a lot of work to do. im opening this thread as im not satisfied with him. taking this as simple matter.
who cares if got lot money..i have money too. i can buy his mobo if i want. but as i said, i dun need it.

im opening this thread to alert people..what kind of guy he is. speaking of sending to RMA, i can even repair the board myself...this is just to show how responsible of him..doing business with no honest..

u can say that u will check if had opportunity..because it is not in your shoe now..its mine. if u in my shoe now, u will also defend yourself..can u accept a silly reason...the mobo caps broken because put in a bag..well mister, we can do a test to prove your assumptions. let me now carry the mobo on my back, and see whether the caps broken or not..LOL at yourself.

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Added on June 24, 2009, 8:36 pmthe caps not broke into two pcs...its still there..but not longer in contact..just a little lift off from the soldering. if we see from top, we cannot see its broken unless we see it from side. so if send to RMA, they will be laughing as it can be soldered back..the point is, if the faulty is because that caps, fine..but who knows if it comes from other parts. what is the purpose of me to lying? i traded my non faulty mobo and proc. do i need to create a story to get back my mobo? LOL.. i plan to let go of it as i need money to study.. and why i didnt sold the mobo rather than trading? is because my lil bro still need to use a PC at his campus. and what do i get? caps that are broken because put the mobo in sling bag..nice reason by the way.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 24 2009, 08:36 PM

If or not this case settle, i'll promise to close this thread when the personal warranty period is over..
and i do accept my lost..my attention is to alert others. to be extra cautions before deal with this guy.. that guy himself put his reputation bad on taking responsibility.

as its not over yet, i still have my right to defend myself..i am his customer. i have a right to complain. and im not satisfied with his act and responsibility. we all know how sensitive of electronics peripherals are..but your reason of accusing my lil bro is not acceptable..i often get that kind of reason. a lame reason to be precise. u see the opportunity to create the reason as my lil bro put the mobo in bag, while u put in a box. if i in your place, i will came out with that reason as a way to not take any responsible. but we all have brains and knows how to handle that thingy even if we put it in the bag..my lil bro put that tpower in the same bag..travel from Ampang to Batu Caves..takes 30 minutes travel..does it have broken caps? while your mobo put in that bag, from batu caves to sri gombak...around 10 minutes travel..u figure it out yourself..logic thinking la..

i know that u will also lost if u take the responsibility..but same goes to me..now, i felt lost too. if i just accept that reason, and sitting down watching that faulty mobo, does the mobo will 'heal' ? this is my action to atleast get something that can cover my lost and your lost too. we can avoid this by handle this matter together. but why do u just put this matter on my shoulder?

i expect the mobo is not faulty same as mine. and u suddenly blame all this matter to my lil bro..so is that fair?
do all you guys out there will accept broken caps is due to the mobo put in bag?

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Added on June 24, 2009, 9:21 pmthats true.. if the leg is bended or the caps was totally tercabut, it is obviously by itchy hand or must have directly touched. but the caps are still there, straight leg..minor lift from side, just few millimeter and can see non contact..it can be soldered back. but whats the point..i still cover up the cost.
if the caps was damage due to the sling bag issue, the caps will totally missing from that board. tercabut terus. but the caps are still there. proof to me that it was in that condition before i test the mobo. that is why i dont accept the lame excuses.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 24 2009, 09:21 PM

so u want me to send to RMA? do u want me to look stupid? why not u send it on behalf of me..cannot rite? because u 100% blame the faulty on me..go ahead. i dont mind..but if u want this case solve, then atleast show your responsibilities!!

if i snap it, it won't be clear..i got no SLR. see the mobo yourself..and send it to get fix. i dun want your money. i want the mobo operated. after that i will satisfied. and im willing to spend the cost to post the mobo directly to you as long as u can fix it. that makes us 50-50 responsible.

This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 24 2009, 11:05 PM

what advantage do u mean? now you care about my avatar pula? wtf..

stop minding others..will ya..the problem is not settle yet..

and why me? why not u..u wanna let go off your hands is it?

I will only allow him to see the board himself. I don't want any assumption from outsider. But it looks like he don't want to cooperate.

Caps #1 Side View and Top View








Caps #2 Side View and Top View


As I said, my phone cam is bad. the blurry images can't see the true condition unless see it with your own eyes..
If u guys notice from the top, it seems like nothing faulty. but if u take a look at side in real condition, u can see clearly the caps are no longer in contact/touch.

honestly and swear i didn't touch any of the components on board after i test it. just take a deep look to detect, and i found two caps as above. and i just made a presumption that the faulty was caused by that two caps. i'm also not sure, but if we logically think, we can say that the mobo was faulty because of that caps. after that i 'quarantine' that mobo to avoid more disaster. and just now i took it off from safe place to snap pics.

and this is obviously nothing to do with the sling bag issue as claim by that guy.

it might be directly contact (etc: itchy hand) or a setup by that guy to hid it from detected by slightly vision.
yeah, probably my lil bro take a look from top, it seems like nothing faulty..who knows the caps will broken? if he knew it, he wouldn't take the mobo home.

Now after i snap the images for you guys to judge(sorry for bad images), u can come to Ampang to see its true condition.
But still that guy don't want to be responsible. I realize that he make nasty replies in order to make me felt fed-up and lastly i drawn the issue to be settled. Well, to be clear, the personal warranty he provides me in our deal will end this sunday.

So got 3 days more until i close down this thread. by now felt like useless talking to that moron.
What is the point to show prove if he doesn't show any responsible..he still want to put this on my own.

He doesn't came out with any solutions (unless the lame old solution: send to RMA by myself)

If u guys think that this man deserve to do trading in our beloved forum, pursue on. Do it on your own risk. No offense from me. I will still doing trading, and watch out for my siggy. I will completely ban him in my entire life!!

I had enough of cursing people. If is true he in the right side, he should dare to see the mobo himself. And i already offer him. to spend the cost to send the mobo by parcel in front of his door as long as i got the mobo repaired.

And honestly, i still don't want to accept the reason of the mobo is damage due by sling bag..childish reason for a grown up man.
wait until somebody smack up your face with that mobo. i am not blackmailing. one day..but not from me. maybe others who are totally piss off with him, will teach him a lesson. swear to God, if i hear it, and i will join the forces too.