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 LYN Gen2 Club V3, The Gen2 drivers online meeting spot!

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Dovienya
post Nov 28 2009, 10:02 AM

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Who in the h*ll pass sh*t to their loved one?
Please just sell the car at a lost, get some vehicle that you love(like) instead. No need to whine and let your "other half" suffer the "problem" that you faced.

If you wait one more day, the car resale value will drop to 10K. 2 day = drop to Rm1.00.
Later, sell for scrap also no one want.

QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Nov 28 2009, 09:52 AM)
I was forced to get Gen2 back then & left me no choice for cars at RM 60k region. So stucking with it now although still finding ways to dispose it. If no other way, I will treat this as a hefty lesson & just pass this car to my other half.
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post Nov 28 2009, 11:00 AM

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It will never happen. rclxms.gif
Bank will never be that stupid.

QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Nov 28 2009, 10:10 AM)
I am still finding ways to sell it off to the point at least I no need to top up.
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post Nov 28 2009, 11:45 AM

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Even if you wait halfway thru the loan, you'll still need to pay to release the car. The only time when you do not need to pay to release the car is when you do not have car loan.

Also, only people who love their car stick to their car. Rest will just sell the car and move on. So, please sell and go for your dream car instead. And please do not drive Gen-2 and spoilt the whole tree by being the bad apple.

QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Nov 28 2009, 11:32 AM)
In other words I need to stick with the car now ok, in contrast to your previous post advice. Who is willing to pay out few thousands to SELL a car?

It will happen but only I need to wait until like half way thru the loan.
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post Nov 30 2009, 08:26 AM

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edit: didnt read enough tongue.gif


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Dovienya
post Nov 30 2009, 10:18 AM

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30% below.. not below 30%
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QUOTE(ahlong @ Nov 30 2009, 09:04 AM)
below 30% blink.gif
gile ke weh doh.gif
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post Dec 1 2009, 11:59 AM

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Sometime, it's not the car. It's the driver.

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QUOTE(shazmn @ Dec 1 2009, 08:55 AM)
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and again whats with the Cam(tak)pro? did u know in cyberjaya drag i only lose to a heavily modified cps with bigger pistons and a management by half a body? sheeshhh get a life la... whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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post Dec 1 2009, 02:51 PM

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I think I would be able to driver faster if I have a gf that sit beside me . (more stressful laugh.gif )
QUOTE(kokkie @ Dec 1 2009, 02:24 PM)
i agree  tongue.gif

also, the state in which the driver is in. i don think i can drive 160kmh if my gf is constantly sitting beside me..ears cannot take it  brows.gif  brows.gif

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101kg = car more stable ma. laugh.gif
60kg = not heavy enough; so car "float" when at high speed. laugh.gif
QUOTE(shazmn @ Dec 1 2009, 02:48 PM)
101kg campro driver vs at least 60kg cps driver... icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Dovienya
post Dec 3 2009, 10:56 AM

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Wrong liao, dc....

The actual scenario:

Kereta is "biasa" (notice that "...." ? brows.gif )
Driver is "biasa", just abit on the heavy side laugh.gif (again, notice the "..." ? brows.gif )
Mindset = unknown.. laugh.gif
Experiences (skill) driving a Gen-2 = almost god-hood laugh.gif (if not mistaken brows.gif )



QUOTE(shazmn @ Dec 3 2009, 09:29 AM)
my car biasa2 oni XD
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QUOTE(darkcroation @ Dec 3 2009, 10:28 AM)
lol..tat 1 also can call biasa2 then our car is kereta kertas adiXD

i aso wana see his carXDrockssXD
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post Dec 3 2009, 04:02 PM

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450 = 1 side , or 1 set (both side)? drool.gif

will masuk air? JPJ approved (meaning wont kena due to h-light)?
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post Dec 5 2009, 07:54 PM

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Guys, ask something.

Anyone change their door handle (driver side) before?
roughly how much is the cost?

mine broke cry.gif
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post Dec 6 2009, 12:00 PM

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In the meantime, i notice the 2 hole in the door panel. Should I take some plastic and cover them first?

QUOTE(yuszairi @ Dec 5 2009, 10:35 PM)

Added on December 5, 2009, 10:45 pm

dont buy from sc. they dont keep stock of such spare. they gonna order from proton part centre first,  then u pay their runner and their margin..it gonna be 4x the the actual price exclude instln.
if u dont mind, buy from proton part centre in glenmarie first, then take to sc to install.
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post Jan 22 2010, 08:30 AM

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I'm also using a year 2004 Gen-2 (first batch version with the "original" ECU) brows.gif
I bought it about 2 years ago under second hand.

Maintenance wise - 200$ per service (spare part, bought from shop; service at Proton Authorized centre)

Problem till date: roof, fuel pedal, wiring, horn.
Most of the problem is due to wear and tear (except the roof vmad.gif ). Will repair the roof later tongue.gif
Other than that, some of the cost come because of ichy hand laugh.gif

There is no such thing as "zero problem" and there are also no such thing as "alot of problem". The key to buying a second hand car is to ensure that the car is in relatively good conditions before you purchase it.

QUOTE(emkay_2020 @ Jan 20 2010, 05:46 PM)
Hi gen2 user's , i'm planning to buy second gen2 year 2004/2005 but i heard most gen2 owners having a lot of problems with this car . Is it true gen2 caused a lot of problems and maintenance quite high?
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post Feb 2 2010, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(shazmn @ Feb 2 2010, 08:01 AM)
ur car ecu 2004 ah? dont want pingking? swap ecu with me want? if its a 2004 ecu, the pingking sound caused by the advance timing ke hapa ntah which gives more spark in the engine...better torque compared to other batch of ecu...there is a way actually where sa can reflash the ecu to latest mapping but sayang lor...the ecu is a rare germ...oh but that is only if ur ecu is the 2004 ecu la hahah
elongated version of gen2...handling almost the same i guess but persona got bontot wan...hmmmm hmm.gif
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I'm also using year2004 ecu, but no pinging sound hmm.gif .
Is it just me ; or I do not know how to listen? blush.gif
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post Feb 3 2010, 09:41 AM

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What is the adv. timing setting for the ECU?

I'm quite consistent in maintaining a 3~4k RPM whenever I'm driving. Is this the reason why I dont hear the pinging sound?
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 3 2010, 12:10 AM)
well i don't know why FC increase.

but here are some timing basics

The spark plug needs to be fired a few degrees before the piston reaches top dead centre (TDC, the maximum stroke before the piston descends), the spark comes early because petrol burns slower than we think so igniting early allows combustion to build as the piston is traveling upwards and reaches maximum burn exactly when the piston is at TDC giving maximum power as the mix expands pushing the piston downwards capturing all the chemical energy into mechanical force.

Advancing timing means firing the plug earlier before TDC and retard means firing nearer to TDC.

For the campro first batch 2004 the pinging is happening because of advance timing, what happens at low speed is the maximum burn is achieved before piston TDC hence the downward expanding mixture collides with the upward moving piston hence the metallic ping noise. But at high speeds the timing becomes just right, reaching maximum burn at exact TDC, giving maximum power. this is why people say ecu 2004 early batch was most powerful.

New batch have no ping but less powerful because the timing is retarded = firing the plug closer to TDC, which causes the piston to pass TDC before reaching maximum burn so the energy from expansion is not fully transformed into energy pushing the piston down because there is more volume already.
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post Feb 3 2010, 01:56 PM

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hmm...

Possible mine is not the "original" ECU.
Manufacturer and deployed on the road in Dec 2004.

QUOTE(eng98 @ Feb 3 2010, 01:21 PM)
what years is ur car? gen2 which after 04 or build in 2005 has the ECU remap....

Dovienya: u won't hear the ping sound in higher range RPM which around 4 - red line..... only lower range the sound is damm obvious... especially after bump!!! lol

want to ask u guys 1 more thing... any u guys using 4300k HID for gen2 projector?
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post Feb 4 2010, 02:36 PM

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One of the relay is not working already. You might need to get it replace.
I got this problem before, but cant be sure which relay needed to be replaced.

Your aicond valve produce white smoke is because it is too cold. In the long run, it is bad as the air will condense in your "aircond pipe" and "corrode" the pipe.

In another note, how do you know which temp is the coldest, and which is the hottest?
The knob is a clockwork type with Min--->Max.


QUOTE(Blue_Diamond @ Feb 4 2010, 02:19 PM)
hello guys..

Last night my Gen2 aircond developed some kind of problem. Firstly, the aircond blew freezing cold air eventhough i adjusted the temperature knob to the hottest while driving.

When i reached home and shut down the engine. I realised that my fan is still spinning. After 1 hour, it's still spinning until i on the engine then on the aircond then off it. Then only the fan stopped.

Then this morning, i switched on the aircond while driving to work. Still blows freezing cold air no matter how i adjust the temperature knob. After that, stopped by and shut down the engine to pump petrol. Fan still spinning. rclxub.gif

On engine again and switch on the aircond. White air or should i say "smoke" came out from my aircond vents. Similar to when i open the freezer. The air was freezing cold. rclxub.gif

Is it my aircond system kong aldy?
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post Feb 4 2010, 03:04 PM

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*Time to spam tongue.gif *

Anyone changed their tyre recently? If yes, what is the cost?

More interested in the choices... would you go for tyres that are aim more toward comfort, or aim toward performance (a.k.a grip?) ? Why ?

I think it's about time I change my tyre. Getting hard to brake after 110km/h.
Add note: My driving style is more of a fast-driving (aiming for consistency of 80km/h ~ 110km/h whenever I drive; which is why I hate traffic jam).

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post Feb 4 2010, 03:27 PM

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I've been playing it safe all this while by placing it at 12-oclock direction (pointing north; 50-50)
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QUOTE(kokkie @ Feb 4 2010, 03:13 PM)
what i believe is what you have mentioned, eg: e.g. Min -> Coldest, Max -> Hottest. my aircon has no problem, im keeping it slightly below btw 23-24degrees most of the time, ie with the knob pointer a slight degree towards the left.

no such problems as what you have reported. maybe u can send to proton edar to check?
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post Feb 5 2010, 09:52 AM

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Torque drip is still around.

CPS did "technically" solved this problem; but it is more of a design fault. So, to say that CPS solve it is abit far-stretch. What I would say is that CPS did minimize the drip (due to the IAFM module integration).

CPS actual utilization is in the higher torque powerband. Comparing CPS to normal ver, CPS give more power at the upper powerband.

Also, when you ask opinion (other than this tread), do you ask them if they owe or drive a Gen-2?
Because when I asked (last time), 90% of the reply comes from member who "hear-say" about Gen2.


As a Gen2 driver, I'll say this as well.

PRO:
It is a Proton car, so spare part and maintenance is easier compare to foreign car.

CON:
It is a Proton car, so fuel consumption is not as good as foreign car (especially cars like Vios and City; reason = vios/city is built for fuel-consumption while Gen2 is built for power).


PRO:
The handling is tuned by Lotus (not sure about CPS version), so the car is more agile and have better control.

CON:
I feel that I need the power to assist in control. Feel rough at turtle speed; but almost no control problem if I driver at my normal speed (avg 2~3k rpm).


PRO/CON (you decide):
It is very fuel consumption in a fully 100% city driving (such as KL); my average is 34L (64$) for an average distance of 300KM. This is because I am attempting to drive consistently at 100Km/hour even during 5.45pm (traffic jam period) tongue.gif
Also Known As: With great "Power", come great "Sacrifice" laugh.gif

Summary: test drive and see if you like the feel of the car.
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post Feb 5 2010, 12:24 PM

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Because CPS come default with IAFM and IAFM "solved" torque drip laugh.gif

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