Ok.. will check it out later this weekend
9.1 still complain.. My 12-per-L also havent complain

I spent 350$ and changed... The PSC ppl say it's 4-year old rotation, so change once "should" last me another 4 year. Note that I use the word "should" loosely, very loosely.

You'll get new set of horn "button", instead of clockspring

This post has been edited by Dovienya: May 3 2010, 05:35 PM

Aircon Filter = 50$. I just changed it last service

waaa.. no filter okay one ah?

Nope, never changed it. Mine also got the sound; went to PSC for quotation and got shocked. .
End result: I switch my radio/CD volume higher, voila, no more sound from dashboard.

Fuel indicator = cannot help. I can only advice that you manage your right leg and try your best to maintain constant speed. Constant pickup (Klang valley famous for this), stop-go-stop-go, jam = root cause of the high fuel consumption for Campro-based engine.

The gear drop (also known as "shiftdown") is the standard (and I might add "prized") feature for Gen2. If you're not used to it, you'll be frustrated; but for those of us ( ) who got used to it (and maybe mastered it ), we can do alot of high speed turning and driving that other cars normally wont do.

Edit: if you really want to solved the "shift-down", you would need to change the gearbox and ECU.
This post has been edited by Dovienya: May 7 2010, 09:35 AM

Someone DIY It before. The screw is at the back of the vent, and hold the movable part together. One way of DIY is to put paper and stop the vent from moving. But I never try, so I cant help in this sense.

Your gearbox = 6000 KM ... new car ah? If new car, I donno how to help cause mine is about 6 years already and I've already missed a gearbox service .

I found the root problem to be design fault. After a while (wear-and-tear), the screw holding the vent in place become loose and cannot tighten the vent, thus the rattling sound. I was expecting somewhere betweeen 100$ ~ 200$ for a new screw and workmanship from PSC. But they quote me the entire aircond vent (costing more than 300$ )

To clsia1001,
My 6years old car also got it's share of problem; in summary:
Clockspring - 350$ , wear-and-tear
Power window - 100$ ++, (havent repair)
Timing belt - 400$++, wear-and-tear
Cabin roof cushion problem - 350$, minor water leakage
Brake pad - 50$? , wear-and-tear
Spring & Absorber - unknown$ , wear-and-tear (havent repair it yet)
others misc expenses

"unsolvable issue "
rattling sound in dashboard
rattling sound in back-passanger seat
rattling sound in driver door
wind sound in the car cabin


p/s: if you want to show it to techician, ask him to follow you go driving, and drive around bout 80km/h .. the sound will appear sooner or later.

This post has been edited by Dovienya: May 7 2010, 02:49 PM

As mention, solution is to either tighten (all) the screwS in the dashboard or change the aircont vent.
Option 1 = because technician need to dismantle the entire dashboard, they'll tend to charge quite highly on the workmanship and may take up to 1 whole day just to complete the task. Plus, if they "forgot", the sound will re-appear.

Option 2 = similar to option 1 but add the cost of a new air cont vent. My price is from PSC (original, cut-throat price), not from spare-part shop; that is why it is more expensive than normal.

The rattling sound at back is commonly found at the hock of the rear seat, but mine also come from the third brake light.
You are right. The downshift tend to raise the RPM even when it is not needed; thus lead to higher fuel consumption. Gen-2 (in my opinion, a.k.a current driving style) is not meant to be fuel effective but rather for optimized fuel-to-power ratio. So, even at stock (no money to "upgrade" ), my Gen2 is quite scary on the road.
Fuel consumption is very high for me (fully Klang Valley driver); averaging 10~11km/L ; full tank of 36L can drive me for about 280-300Km only.

This post has been edited by Dovienya: May 10 2010, 09:15 AM

Same price. Different brand* have different adaptive, or mixture-ratio; so some feel that certain brand is more powerful, burn longer (more fuel effective), etc etc.
This post has been edited by Dovienya: May 10 2010, 05:39 PM

I'm not a mechanic; thus I do not and can not confirm anything. What I can say is that when I went to PSC to check, they told me that they need to dismantle the dashboard first. Likewise, forumer here and in Gen2Club also mention something similar in this sense. There is no specific loose screw because it is wear-and-tear type of issue. Normally, all the screws need to be tighten.

If they damage the dashboard, you can actually ask them to pay back.. Where did you go? PSC or "outside" shop? Do they actually know how to solve the problem or not?

I know alot of shop and owner. Friend-friend ok, normal service ok; but sometime, I dont trust them as much especially when it come to car-specific or electronic problem (such as ECU or Gen2's rattling sound). I'm driving a year2004 Gen2, so I cannot compare my "wife" with your CPS edition. Maybe it is the same, maybe not. Only PSC or specialist can tell the differences

I read somewhere that the air-cond vent is bout 200-300$? Cannot confirm cause I check my price at PSC. You can go check price at spare part shop.

My suggestion is that since you're going to DIY dismantle the dashboard, then no need to buy air-cond vent. Because the vent is not spoil, just that the screw are loose due to vibration and wear-and-tear. Non-DIY style can bring to accessory shop and ask them to tighten it, but (till date) I didnt go get quotation from accessory shop

When I buy my 2004-Gen2 two year ago(4 year old car), the millage is only 40K km.
The salesman is a high-school friends of mine, and the owner of my "wife" is his wife's friend (ji mui).
She took the car to work only; weekends got BF to drive her around.
It's good (very good) to have "contact" with alot of people.
Power... I also only do 3-D-3-D (numbers anyone? ) ... But, ahlong, did you add GB cooler (the tube)?
They say our gearbox quite hot one if we play with gears alot. Also, your maintenance for GB is constant-on-schedule? Or you miss one-two schedule here-and-there like me?
Scary FC ratio....
This post has been edited by Dovienya: May 11 2010, 09:09 AM

Shazmn insaf oledi????
From the look of thing, the best Fuel-saving method is still speed-limiter . Maybe I should also concentrate on this method
*back to serious* each time u service ATF = how much ? my last ATF service cost me bout 200$++ already (if not mistaken)

Note to all: Dont FLY pass Speed BUMP

Scenario: Typical KL Driver... Full COMPLETE STOP AT ALL SPEED BUMP . Driving at 20-30km/hour. ; Just before peak hour, when rest of the world is rushing to avoid peak hour traffic jam. I got pissed and decide to overtake this Japanese car. This morning, no black oil indicator light up. Check = no black oil.
Check my parking lot = alot of black oil leaked out


Repair cost is going to kill. Anyone know roughly what is the root and cost?

money issue, bro.
If seal is cheap, can seal first (temp solution) until got money to buy new oilsump

How much is the price for oilsump (estimation) and for the sealing action?

Also, what is an oilsump?

ohh.. no wonder the mechanic say have to take out exhaust pipe as well..

your kaw er6n (donno what car/vehicle) is totally different from Gen2

I think it's Persona instead of Gen2

After register, you're allowed to public "area".
Then have to pay yearly fee to see the details "area".