Yeah... agree with you Elfreakz. Even DLH now are selling at RM600 and above. No way you can get RM200 - RM350. Dragorc, why don't you try to visit SPCA as they sometimes have DLH for adoption. Fees are at RM150.00 if I am not mistaken.

Hi friendly peeps,

I need some advise and suggestions from many cat owners here. I have posted this in the "vet list" thread but just wondering if anyone here could share their experience with a good vet around KL. Some good reviews seems to be around Subang Jaya/Damansara and it's a little too far for my cats to enjoy...

I was quoted RM 200 (could even be more) to castrate my DLH male cat at Hayward Clinic, eventhough I have frequented his clinic for my other 2 cats sleep.gif

Usually his fees are reasonable, it's in Ampang so I expected it to be somewhat more expensive than other private vet clinics outside KL, but RM 200 for a snip for male kitty? Haiya... Dr Singam (I think that's his name) insist on blood work before castration.

I paid RM 180 (include 3 days 2 nights stay at his clinic to recoup) to neuter my female DSH stray I picked up (after her first on-heat session convinced us to take her to be spayed when she's ok to undergo surgery), thus I was expecting something less than RM180. That's why when he quoted RM200 really put me off a little bit...

I have read mixed reviews of Klinik Kembiri DBKL, eventhough it's uber cheap (RM40 for male) but heard of unfortunate pets that didn't make the surgery... so I'm not willing to go to a conveyor spaying facility for my kitty...

I need some advise from those who knows a good vet clinic recommendation around KL (I stay at Setiawangsa). I'd appreciate that you could share your good experience and the clinic's address & phone number, that would be great. I could call them myself for pricing comparison.

Thanks in advanced.

-Lex-

Hi there Lex,

I have never heard about unfortunate pets that did not make it during spaying surgery at Klinik Kembiri. Are you sure about this? As, there is a bunch of cat lovers from another forum usually send strays and their pets to Klinik Kembir for castration as well as spaying but have yet to encounter any problems.

I myself have sent several of my male cats for castration there and have NEVER experienced any problems at all. The vets and nurses there are very kind and helpful. The wound and stiches are very neat and the after care is very good.

There is however a so called petshop in Kota Kemuning that does castration by an uncertified vet (the petshop owner himself) that does the operation and the stiches on the female cat was horible! The poor cat was infected by the badly done job and the so called pet shop owner said that it was due to the cat excessively licking herself. So you better be careful.

For RM200 budget you can actually spay female cat. Male cat normally below rm130.

I did mine at Segar Vet, and Baby Pets vet. It is not at your location. Segar vet charge included over night (which is a good one since suit your budget and if you afraid of anything bad happen, vet will monitor your cat). While baby pets you can bring back you pets after the surgery if there is no complication.

i never tried klinik kembiri so far, since i do not feel like traveling that far. im pretty sure you do not have much cats that's why you dont mind paying rm200 right.

if im not mistaken segar vet has one vet in ampang area.

babypets vet is not for you, since you are in setiawangsa.. it is too far for you to travel to sri kembangan area.

i have been to UKAY ANIMAL CENTRE SDN. BHD. 6, Medan Damai Ukay, Jln Pinggiran 1, Ulu Klang, 68000 Ampang, before. but not for neuter/spay... last time they did mention rm150 for female.. so should be cheaper for male. you can ask them..

i never heard rm200 for male cat so far.. and the most charge for female cat is rm180, some where in cheras. and as for the blood checked up before surgery - never come across this one too.

hello and salam to you guys here..
i got a,em,big?ahh,not really kot but kinda a problem la.
so i hope u guys can help me out eh,since u guys kinda pro kan..

ok,my cat is a DLH (but the vet said there's no such thing? )
ah,dont mind him!
and she had fleas a few months ago and now it's okay although i still have one pipe left (in case the fleas dtg balik-i know the vet says it have to be finished all 3 pipes )

since that moment,i has changed her food to the better one-Science Plan aje (alternately chicken and tuna).
but now why is it her bulu gugur macam gila ah?(it's has been 1-2 months also)
actually tak teruk kot but still it's quite bothering me (since she's sleeping with me) and mostly dia lah!(mana tahu hair ball ke?!)
as for now maybe takde sign or i dont even know what the sign are? )

so the ques is:Can anyone suggest me what brand shud i change to maybe?for a better coat?
i've searched,even asked the pet shop owner,but i end up basic SP!
there's dozens of cat foods,u know...
i know,by bring her to the vet,and give her some vitamins for coat it'll help,but now it's about food.

please,please,please...help my darling!!
and thank you so much!

Hi there Mimzy,

Mmmm I used to have that problem with my DLH cats too when I fed them with IAMS. They shed a lot. Then I changed my cat food to Blackwood (Premium Cat Food from US) which a friend recommended to me. After changing to Blackwood, I noticed that my cats put on weight, tend to shed less fur and their poo poo less smelly compared to IAMS and RC.

Excessive shedding could also be caused by the weather since its very hot nowadays so it could contribute to your cat shedding more hair. You could also get salmon oil and feed it to your cat as this will help to maintain a healthy and shiny coat.

If you want to have BW food samples, feel free to contact me and I would be more happy to provide some samples for you.

First of all, please don't expect the vet to know about cats life eheheh.. what they learn in school is about sickness, disease and maybe surgery. they dont learn about breeds and etc eheheh... and there is one vet telling me, most of them very familiar with dogs rather than cats.

Secondly.. please don't blame the food in first place.

What you need to check is other reason why fur shedding...

Other reasons include:
- parasites such as fleas, ticks, lice, determites, mites, ringworm, fungal, etc... since you mention about your cat with fleas few months ago, make sure it is complete gone. try the spray type if your cat has a lot of fleas. if your cat is indoor cat, you are lucky.. but if your cat running outside the house - you will have non-stop problem.

- is your cat spayed/neutered? is your cat on heat (horny for sex) ?? if yes, that is one of the reason why your cat is shedding fur. get them neuter to have a beautiful coat. stress, moody, horny will make the fur shed and when it is time for sex, cat will less grooming themself - they look terrible when they are super horny

- weather.. yes its hot lately... cats do shed fur during this time. some even change alil bit color.. i mean from dark to bright...

- the nature... yes by nature all cat shed fur. depending on how much much they are shedding... like human, our hair drops, dead hair falls, new hair come out... a friend of mine last time involve with hair drop like a lot and he thought he is suffering from leukemia LOL.

- grooming? how many time do u groom your cat? lets make it into 2 category.. .dry groom and wet groom...
dry groom = how many times do u brush your cat fur a day? you must brush their fur everyday. that is what u need to do when you have long hair cat. help them to brush the fur, it will help u reduce drop furs around the house. if your cat recently has fleas.. go get fleas comb, you must comb the fur to drop all fleas eggs and dead fleas.
wet groom = if your cat recently has fleas, why not bath atleast 1 time a week with fleas shampoo? brush your cat fur before you bathm them...

- vet check up = i think u already did this right.. make sure everything is done such as skin check up. cat with sensitive skin will end up having bad skin which can't hold the fur.

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hairball is the ball come out during vomiting.. have u ever see this in your house??? if no, that means your cat is super lazy... if he/she groom him/her self, with the amount of shedding, your cat should vomiting hairball.

and again i would love to know the age... and see if he/she is currently in the mood of sex or laziness.

remember, help him/her to groom .. help brush the fur.

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do all of the above first, before you spending too much money changing food, and also making your cat stomach in pain. im feeding iams at the moment, have no problem with "too much fur shed", since they are all neutered. i feed SP before too, and never encounter too much fur shed as well...

don't easily get flattering with the sweetness offer by your petshop too. they are trying to make you buy eheheheh..

long time ago im one of the victim... if u ask me how many times of cat food i have tried? almost all... why? because of the same problem like yours, and sweetness offer by petshop i end up buying too many cat food LOL.

if you keep changing it, you end up do know which one is the best for your cat. by giving best food but your cat is not eating it equal too 0. go get food he likes the most, and wait for atleast 4 months before you see changes.. if you change every month, all food will be useless.

good luck

This post has been edited by elfreakz: Aug 1 2009, 12:24 PM

woww..elfreakz!i really don't know how to thank you for the help!
it really helps me a lots!
ok,gonna answer abt all the tasks u asked me to do before changing the food.
before that,im kinda surprise that vet know more on sickness,diseases,or anything related to medical than breed!LOLL!!!

1) parasites:i am 110% sure she is completely gone from fleas,ticks,lies etc etc.when i brought her to vet for fleas prob the vet didn't even bother cause he says it not a major prob,as in not many fleas,but i insist to get the meds,and he gave me FRONTLINE COMBO SPOT-ON,then it all gone.
She's not really an indoor cat,i just lepas her,but ever since i just lock her in my room to keep me company what i noticed she's so rarely go outside,the farthest is on the balcony which is 10 steps away from my room.she'll ALWAYS sleep there on the cold floor but in the sunlight.
and i also notice that the fur shed more when she is lepaking at the window or balcony (hot and sunny plc-i am blaming the weather!huhu)..

2) Is your cat spayed/neutered?:To answer to this ques,I need to inform that she wasn't mine in the first place.She was my neighbour's (4 houses away).About 2 years ago she often came here to play with us,we kept on feeding her and at one time she didn't go to her owner at all!!
And seems like the former owner didn't bother at all and maybe they have a new one (i saw once their new persian or DLH outside their home wandering around the neighbourhood-damn!).If they really love her they'll do anything to find her right.So i dont find it's wrong for my family to keep her,since we also would do anything to her,and keep her save!
So,i dunno if she had been spayed.But i think she had. Because she didn't wandering around the house to menggatal and if the male come near her she'll ran away!She's scared to death to the male.And at one time that horny male trying to sneaked into my room maybe to check on her! Can this sign makes sense that she had been spayed??SHE JUST NOT INTO IT!and i found that she's really a good groomer.

3) weather:im totally agree with you on this.but what can i do,place her in the fridge?LOL! Even we human feel so restless with the weather right,apa tah lagi dia yg dipenuhi bulu-buluan?LOL!

pergh!Leukemia?that must've been a nightmare for him uhh!

4) grooming? :dry groom-i help her brush her fur about 10x a week like that?isn't that enough?Cause i was terrified looking at the comb there's thick fur of her stucked there! what if she get bold one day?and im gonna have like that fur-less breed of cat?!LOL!
wet groom-since the fleas are gone,i still bath her 2 weeks -one month once,depends on the smell and the dirt on her.even if she no longer have fleas i still use the medicated soap sometimes.

5) vet check up:yeah,i've done this.once i asked the vet,if there's an injection to stop the fur shed (i know it sounds silly ).i ask that cause my ignorance friend told me that the vet she met gave the injection to her cat!DUH!
i guess she must have been misunderstood what the vet has said!
and my vet said there's no such 'stopping the fur shed injection!!)

hairball is the ball come out during vomiting.. have u ever see this in your house??? if no, that means your cat is super lazy... if he/she groom him/her self, with the amount of shedding, your cat should vomiting hairball.

and again i would love to know the age... and see if he/she is currently in the mood of sex or laziness.

i don't have idea on how does the hairball looks like.and i've never seen it around my house,or maybe she had vomited outside of the house.BUT, recently she had puked ON my bed sheet,for God sake!
and apart from i think the digested Science Plan there something like ketul2 panjang looks like poo poo (how the hell she eats her own poo poo!!) and i now notice that it's the same colour as her fur!!
How i wish i take a pic of that thing,so i can show it to u! L.O.L!

and again as i mention before,i dunno her age,not even guessing and neither the vet can guess also her age.but from her canin,im afraid the vet said she's not so young..
im positive it have nothing to do with sex,but laziness?as in?playing or grooming?she's great and so rajin at both i can say!

wait,why do u say my cat is a super lazy if there's no hairball coming out during the vomiting?
So if the hair ball comes out,the cat is a super good boy/girl ehh?

if you keep changing it, you end up do know which one is the best for your cat. by giving best food but your cat is not eating it equal too 0. go get food he likes the most, and wait for atleast 4 months before you see changes.. if you change every month, all food will be useless.


This is actually what i am planning on doing.I know her stomach might be upset if i keep changing her food every month at least.That's why it's almost 6 months i've been feeding her with SP,that why im asking for a suggestion for any other brand (jgn la yg pelik2 sgt),so that i know which one the best for her kan?So far she loves Science Plan tuna flavour than Chicken!haha.

Eh,one more thing,since that she had puked and if that weird thing is hairball,does she needs IAMS HAIRBALL CARE or DIGESTIVE CARE? or that's normal?
Or any other hairball care from Royal Canine product??

THANK YOU so much for that help,and maybe it would be easier if we talk in private (PM)?
Ahh,but in that way others can't give their opinion..

P/S:Maybe all this excessive fur shed is actually normal for them,it's just me the owner is over-worried about it?

Don't get confuse between veterinarian and zoology.... zoology is the course that study about animal behavior, breed, etc.

- 110% sure no fleas. then that is ok.. have u check for earmites? dusk mites? lice? you cannot see all this with your eyes. fleas are bigger so you can see them clearly. Clean the ears.. if you see black brown spot in the ears (look like wax) that is knows as ear mites.

- she seem to be boring eh? like lock in the room and sleep infront the balcony..

- im not sure how long is the fur... have u try grooming your cat at the petshop? last time i have cat that has very thick fur, and end up shed alot too... bring her up to the petshop grooming, and the shop trim her undercoat. after that she look find, does not look thick...

- im pretty sure your cat is 2 - 3 years above? since u mention your come to your house 2 years ago. so estimated she is fully adult. horny cat will normally scream out loud. making this loud annoying sound calling for male / female cats. the only way to check if that cat has been spay is to ask your vet.. maybe they need to shave the fur on her stomach. else u go to your neighbor house and pretend to ask bout their cat. if they dont know anything about spaying, basically their cat that has been staying with you is not yet spay/neuter. some cat do not show any horny sign during mating season.. some cat do. the more they interact with horny male, the faster the female turn on. horny cat normally will have sensitive back part (near the tail), if you rub that early, they will show up their butt.. this is one sign their still have feeling of sex LOL..

- lol if you put your cat in the fridge you end up not having a pet anymore ... its enough to have alil bit of natural air from outside, and also maybe a fan.

- 10x a week dry grooming should be ok... how bout try to get deshedding tool for your cat. it is not the normal comb/brush.. on the pack it mention de-shedding, it wont make your cat botak, it will just trim and remove dead fur...so your cat fur wont be too thick.. here is one famous tool, maybe you can try find something similar to this:
http://www.furminator.com/ = its very hard to find this one here in KL..
as for me im using Bamboo Care - cat de-shedding comb, i bought it for RM36.90 at Petsmore petshop, below is the photo of it.:


- ok the one you see that look like stool in your cat vomit is = hair ball... this means your cat is cleaning herself. now u need to see how frequent she vomit, if everyday then you are in red alert mode. everyday hairball is not a good thing to see...
when cat cleaning themself, they lick the fur.. fur go inside them.. hairball will be produce. if they dont have hair ball.. basically they dont really groom themself. horny cat is lazy, when the mating season come, they eat less, they groom less, all they know they want sex more. typical animal behavior.

- my cats love SP tuna and chicken too.. and they have no problem with iams chicken. last month i tried the iams tuna they love it too...

- having fur shedding is normal if you have cats in the house. all cats shed fur. just need to see how bad it is. if your cat shedding like the amount of 10 cats. than there is some wrong.

- many people feed fish oil to their cat, as fish oil is rich with nutrition for the fur. i never tried any oil... since i dont have much problem with extreme de-shedding problem...

- if you have tried SP for 6 months, i bet now u can try a new one.. try super premium like orijen or innova evo.. its expensive ehehe very expensive.. 4kg is like RM70.. but worth it.. if i have money i will go for this.. i did try feeding orijen to 1 cat for 4 months, that cat look 100% different from other cat that did not eat orijen. especially fluffy shiny fur.

- SP and Iams is the reasonable price and easy to get. others will be much expensive than SP and iams, such as Royal Canin and etc. if you do not want to pay that much, u can try blackwood which was recomment by CutiePie before. You can PM her directly.

hi all,

I am looking for a pet cat. indoor one coz I am staying in a condo. I am first timer and new on cats so will need sifu here for some advice

1) what kind of cat suitable for indoor and preferable dont simply pee and poo

2) what age should I buy? since i do not want them to mengatal all the time so I prefer them to sunat.

3) can I buy cats? but i went to pets wonderland, their cats is 3k wtf..

pls help

hello sabaiwin2k3 yes you can have cats in your condo.. as long as you keep your house clean so they will be no complaints. and also, spay/neuter your cat early so they won't come to "on heat" situation, on heat / mating season will make your cat scream calling for sex partner, which will so wake up your neighbor. So neuter/spay your cat early to avoid mating seaspn.

1) what kind of cat suitable for indoor and preferable dont simply pee and poo - find kitten/cat that has already train to use the litter box. so you need to buy litter box and litter for them to poo and pee


2) what age should I buy? since i do not want them to mengatal all the time so I prefer them to sunat. - get a kitten if you want them to attach with you easily. buying kitten from another owner is proven train to use litter box. normally buy kitten age 4 months above. or u can get younger one like 2 months above since at this age they already know how to eat by themself. you can spay/neuter that kitten after age 4 months - 6 months to avoid menggatal

3) can I buy cats? but i went to pets wonderland, their cats is 3k wtf.. - You can buy this kitten at 3k price as long as it come with breed certificate. Don't waste money buying Domestic long hair or Domestic short hair cat with that price. its too expensive and not worth it. DLH means a cat come from mix breed. they are not pedigree, so dont waste money. you can simply get a pedigree cat with RM3000 from breeder. many seller advertise their cat as Persian, but when you ask for pedigree cert they don't even know what that is. So that cat for sell is not pedigree although they look like persian. Only certificate can confirm they are pedigree. without it, they will automatically become DLH. DLH should cost you around rm800 below.

What El said its true. But you better be careful also when buying cats on the net. Some people will try to con you and say that its persian or mainecoon breed but actually its not. There is a lot of people trying to scam people nowadays. I would suggest you bring someone who at least have some experience in cats when you go shopping.

thanks a lot for the advice. Do you know any owner or cattery which is trustworthy ? or does it worth to buy from cattery? i saw someone even willing to let it for adopt for free but i think i need something special one

I have found some in petfinder :

1) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/6331/



2) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/6330/



3) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/6392/



4) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/6391/




can help me see worth or not or the price too high ?

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Added on August 3, 2009, 5:58 pm5) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/6390/



6) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/5727/



This post has been edited by sabaiwin2k3: Aug 3 2009, 06:04 PM

agree

the best way to adopt cat

some people may want extra looking cat, what im trying to say, not typical short hair cat. there's nothing wrong if you dont like short hair.. some people may want a long hair type of cat. its alright, get it from someone you know... like friends.. rather than buying it online. like what CutiePie mention, "scam".

Beside if you buy from friends or people you know, it would be a good advantage to see and get to know the kitten first. like human, not everybody born 100% healthy.

Lastly, you can kaw-tim with your friend eheheh.. can get good price, rather than buying from scammer saying their cat is the best cat in malaysia with the last price RM3k

I will pity busy can that cat.. kesian kena tipu, and kesian for that cat become money making machine.

please help my cat keep on sneezing i think he got flu...wat shld i do..

1) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/6331/



Ok this one is not persian, although it mention persian. like i mention just now, no cert no pedigree. this kitten is Domestic Long Hair... he/she come from mix breed. As for RM700 NEGOTIABLE is ok.. nego till the last price u can ehehhe

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2) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/6330/



Ok this is not scottish fold.. obviously from the ears... SF should not have that kind of ears. and again, the seller mention MIX SF. again as for the price, nego till the last price you can RM750 is too expensive for mix breed. Don't waste too much, remember you need to buy some other stuff for your kitten new home.

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3) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/6392/



this is a good example of DLH price.. kinda cheap and affordable..

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4) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/6391/



same as above, same seller, i think the kitten is from the same family. its in penang, if u r in kl, u need to consider transportation cost as well.

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5) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/6390/



selling 1 month old kitten is not a good idea.. too small...although the price looks OK

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6) http://www.petfinder.my/pets/5727/



this is not persian... its a domestic cat... seller mention medium fur.. meaning it could be semi long fur type of cat.

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and again, it would be better to buy from someone you know. small kitten won't look the same when they grew up. they may look like having this long fur, but when they grew up, then you can see the exact length of the fur.

if u have other cat at home... separate them.. flu can go from one to another..

bring to vet for check up. he/she might end up sick/fever.

wow meow.... i have a cat too

This post has been edited by eviljonz: Aug 3 2009, 08:27 PM

thanks a lot elf, too bad no friend who ada cats wanna buy scared kena chop as u all say..

thanks elf...will send him to the vet asap..
another thing is my cat is an indoorcat but i duno y recently the fur behind both of his ear seem to become botak..i apply some fungal cream on him but still botak...can help??