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about RM150 for 7.5kg bag^_^ Cat Lovers Version 5 ^_^, Fabulous Cats & People
^_^ Cat Lovers Version 5 ^_^, Fabulous Cats & People
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Mar 30 2010, 03:01 PM
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Mar 30 2010, 08:46 PM
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Where i can get it? Any supplier here in LYN?
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Mar 31 2010, 12:16 AM
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Mar 31 2010, 01:16 AM
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Now Im in Egypt. Will contact you in Malaysia
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Mar 31 2010, 03:44 PM
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dear all, my dlh is shedding a lot lately. even though i comb it everyday, feed it premium food(royal canin), and cod liver oil sometimes. it doesnt have ticks as well. :s everytime i carry it fur will get stuck to my clothes :S:S
my cat is 6 months old uneutered male, no sign of spraying yet. any advice on this? thanks~ |
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Apr 2 2010, 10:19 PM
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hi, i have some problems here. my 1 year old cat suddenly refuse to eat today. i bought a normal new pack of food yesterday as the old one finishes. but i changed from chicken to tuna flavour (scienceplan). she is still playing well, active but when she comes to her food bowl, she will smell a bit, then will walk off and play.. can flavour changes affect cat's appetite?
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Apr 2 2010, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(ssyy @ Apr 2 2010, 10:19 PM) hi, i have some problems here. my 1 year old cat suddenly refuse to eat today. i bought a normal new pack of food yesterday as the old one finishes. but i changed from chicken to tuna flavour (scienceplan). she is still playing well, active but when she comes to her food bowl, she will smell a bit, then will walk off and play.. can flavour changes affect cat's appetite? it's normal. certain cat. they can bear the starving-ness if they dont like that particular food. just give him a moment. myb 2-3 days. he'll start eating. no worries. |
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Apr 2 2010, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(yeepi @ Apr 2 2010, 10:23 PM) it's normal. certain cat. they can bear the starving-ness if they dont like that particular food. just give him a moment. myb 2-3 days. he'll start eating. no worries. ic.. im glad then.. actually, im not sure can use adult food or not cuz tis is da second pack of adult food, before i used kitten food which is softer.. |
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Apr 5 2010, 02:50 AM
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QUOTE(ssyy @ Apr 2 2010, 11:55 PM) ic.. im glad then.. actually, im not sure can use adult food or not cuz tis is da second pack of adult food, before i used kitten food which is softer.. Actually why do u need to feed with so complicated food ? get something good n grainfree..something thats got enuff protein for adults n kitten...i don have any hassle at all feeding my adults n kitten cos they all take the same foood as mine is all stages catffod vwith enuff protein n fat for all stages of cat..it contains fresh wildcaught fish n also fresh chicken not frozen ones with whole meat protein which is more than enuff for kitten n adults so u don have to buy separate kitten n adult catfood n its alll in one bag that is chicken n fish (salmon n trout which is very high content of omega 3 n omega 6 for their skin n coat). u can always pm me if u need more info... tq... we need to love our pets but make sure ur love don turn to pampering them.. |
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Apr 9 2010, 04:19 PM
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Apr 10 2010, 04:49 AM
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I am quiet agree with chinchilla about feeding raw..cat major nutrition is taurine and it contains the most in meat or fish..so why not kibbles? as kibbles is cooked in very high temperature which may cause most of nutrition is cooked away included the taurine...kibbles may contain protein, but it is lack of natural enzyme which is very crucial for cat to digest the protein so that it can be absorb properly in the body..kibbles is sold widely for people who do not have time to prepare raw meat...but if we wan the best for our cat, i am totally agree that raw meat is the proper diet. That's wat most of cat bring "home"..the dead rat or mice..and in the wild, mother cat will bring the "dead mouse" for its kittens..and yes, i have seen it by my own eyes...no offense ok... everybody has their own point of view..and i just wan to share with all cat lovers..and no need to say malaysia boleh lah, as all technology that we have now also following and duplicating western countries..so why not to just open our mind to observe n reseach more on raw diet, it might be what our cats need..
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Apr 10 2010, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE(soekma88 @ Apr 10 2010, 04:49 AM) I am quiet agree with chinchilla about feeding raw..cat major nutrition is taurine and it contains the most in meat or fish..so why not kibbles? as kibbles is cooked in very high temperature which may cause most of nutrition is cooked away included the taurine...kibbles may contain protein, but it is lack of natural enzyme which is very crucial for cat to digest the protein so that it can be absorb properly in the body..kibbles is sold widely for people who do not have time to prepare raw meat...but if we wan the best for our cat, i am totally agree that raw meat is the proper diet. That's wat most of cat bring "home"..the dead rat or mice..and in the wild, mother cat will bring the "dead mouse" for its kittens..and yes, i have seen it by my own eyes...no offense ok... everybody has their own point of view..and i just wan to share with all cat lovers..and no need to say malaysia boleh lah, as all technology that we have now also following and duplicating western countries..so why not to just open our mind to observe n reseach more on raw diet, it might be what our cats need.. So, i just give my cat raw fish? Its fine but, raw meat and chicken fillet? |
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Apr 10 2010, 02:26 PM
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hye, just rescued a kitten about one month old.. what should i do? do i haf to bottle feed the kitten milk formula? help =(
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Apr 10 2010, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(soekma88 @ Apr 10 2010, 04:49 AM) I am quiet agree with chinchilla about feeding raw..cat major nutrition is taurine and it contains the most in meat or fish..so why not kibbles? as kibbles is cooked in very high temperature which may cause most of nutrition is cooked away included the taurine...kibbles may contain protein, but it is lack of natural enzyme which is very crucial for cat to digest the protein so that it can be absorb properly in the body..kibbles is sold widely for people who do not have time to prepare raw meat...but if we wan the best for our cat, i am totally agree that raw meat is the proper diet. That's wat most of cat bring "home"..the dead rat or mice..and in the wild, mother cat will bring the "dead mouse" for its kittens..and yes, i have seen it by my own eyes...no offense ok... everybody has their own point of view..and i just wan to share with all cat lovers..and no need to say malaysia boleh lah, as all technology that we have now also following and duplicating western countries..so why not to just open our mind to observe n reseach more on raw diet, it might be what our cats need.. Ya, Kibble(dry cat food) seriously is not cat FOOD. Is very obvious cat is obligate carnivore(100% hunt fresh animal meat to survive). Can you imagine, how fantastic science is that make people rather choose convenient over they cat good health, they never think that the manufacturer design the dry food from the starting point -->'fresh' ingredient --> high temperature cooking --> preservative --> transport from factory to store --> pet shop --> MANY MONTHS of shielf live--> cat user --> sustaining to export to other country -- oversea cat owner--> biscuit in the bowl --> MANY DAYs IN THE BOWL which wont spoil and go bad. Cat is design to survive on the protein, amino acid taurine and other vitamins mineral COME FROM FRESH meat (small prey, chicken, bird etc. NO grinding the meat and bone for still have plenty of teeth), not cooked meat and dry matter. Dry biscuit definately wont clean the teeth, infact building more problem for teeth to have tartar build up, later get rotten teeth. Sparkling white teeth can only obtain from cat chewing on raw meaty BONE. Preparing a raw diet is just as simple as 1,2,3 , the money involve is so cheap compare with what the 'premium' dry food price for and super good result for the cat over all health. This is another article written by an VET about raw diet http://www.catinfo.org/ plenty of info to study and learn about and MOVING ON TO 2010 raw feed cat, not dry feed cat! Added on April 10, 2010, 4:13 pm QUOTE(Cotton Diesel @ Apr 10 2010, 06:46 AM) No, you go with chicken meat for begining , not fish Like chicken fillet, definately a good start(you can't just feed meat alone, you need bone n organ to be complete). Feeding once a while fish is ok for cat, not everday, everymeal. In nature, fish is not natural food for cat as well, fish contains an enzyme that destroys thiamin vitamin B1 in cat(causing kidney problem). Where to get plenty of thiamin? FRESH RAW MEAT. You can slowly switch your cat from what ever you feeding them toward 100% raw feed, follow your cat pase, cause some cat may not know that that is they food, and take time to 'convince', some cat is instantly pick up that ideal. Because they been feeding dry biscuit for live, 'forgot' they are carnivore. You can read this --> http://www.rawfedcats.org/practicalguide.htm you will easily pick up the ideal. Once you move into raw, you will never look back, your cat will thank you for doing the right thing for him not for your self. The ideal for raw feed cat mixture is follow as close as possible to the ratio cat eat in the wild, one of the commend prey for cat is wild mice. Mice's build up is about 80% of meat, 10% bone, and 10% of organ meat(half must be liver). This post has been edited by Chinchillas: Apr 10 2010, 04:40 PM |
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QUOTE(Chinchillas @ Apr 10 2010, 04:03 PM) Ya, Kibble(dry cat food) seriously is not cat FOOD. Is very obvious cat is obligate carnivore(100% hunt fresh animal meat to survive). Can you imagine, how fantastic science is that make people rather choose convenient over they cat good health, they never think that the manufacturer design the dry food from the starting point -->'fresh' ingredient --> high temperature cooking --> preservative --> transport from factory to store --> pet shop --> MANY MONTHS of shielf live--> cat user --> sustaining to export to other country -- oversea cat owner--> biscuit in the bowl --> MANY DAYs IN THE BOWL which wont spoil and go bad. well i think lets not argue about whats good or not good for ur cats ok ? lets be practical... i think u ppl must be either student or maybe housewives having all ther time in the world to go looking for raw meat but i can tell u this ... in malaysia especially iun kl there is no fresh raw meat.. cos what u buy is either from the markert or from hypermarket ...do not compare urself with those westerners cos they really go get their raw meat fresh n they really treat their cats n dogs like their children...do u have the time to do that if u r working n having a family to take care of ? thats why the kibbles come into the picture n not all kibbles r that bad quality... i think u should study the ingredients of the kibbles n also their manufacturer first b4 u comment on anything.. don just bla bla if u don really know all the brands in the market...study it first b4 commenting..u can feed ur cats with raw foood or whatever but u got no right to give bad commments on kibbles cos u know nothing about kibbles that r very high end n grainfree with frsh caught meat n fish like salmon n trouts...why argue so much about kibbles when the percentage of ppl giving kibbbles is at least 90 ? ppl don have the time to go shopping for the raw meat u mentioned n also they r educated n know whats goood for their cats....not just simply buy things like friskies n whiskas...most of them go for premium foood n super premium food....i don see any cat dying cos they take kibbles....i don see any cat fall sick due to taking kibble..lets be practical la ok ? u can feeed ur pets with anything u wan but pleaseee do not talk bad or condemn kibbles just bcos u feed with raw meat...i know cats r canivores but in this society we r trying to make them feed kibbles cos its already millineum year n we gotta move forward n not look back at those were the days.... we r moving into an advanced world now not those olden days whereby we don even have a proper running vehicle n needs horse n camels n also cows to pulll our vehicle in order to move...we have now turbo charged cars...we r eating polished rice...brown rice....beras wangi n what do u have those olden days ? cats r forced to be canivores cos there were not much kibbbles in the market n even if got its too expensive n lots of ppl cant afford it so they give whatever leftovers or whatever meat or fish th3ey have at home to their cats..we r living in advanced world now n the kibbles r produced n manufactured in a very hight tech manner with fresh caught meat with no preservatives n also with the proper nutrition n omega essential oils...u might have all the time in the world to do what3ver u wan but think of those working ppl ... they cant afford to take the time to do what u can...ok so lets not argue n condemn anything... feed what u wan with ur pets but try ur best to give them goood n nutritous foood whether its raw food or kibbles .... vmake sure u read the ingredients b4 u buy... thats alll i wanna voice out n i hope we look into the futuristic world n don be lookingf into the aboriginal age... thank youCat is design to survive on the protein, amino acid taurine and other vitamins mineral COME FROM FRESH meat (small prey, chicken, bird etc. NO grinding the meat and bone for still have plenty of teeth), not cooked meat and dry matter. Dry biscuit definately wont clean the teeth, infact building more problem for teeth to have tartar build up, later get rotten teeth. Sparkling white teeth can only obtain from cat chewing on raw meaty BONE. Preparing a raw diet is just as simple as 1,2,3 , the money involve is so cheap compare with what the 'premium' dry food price for and super good result for the cat over all health. This is another article written by an VET about raw diet http://www.catinfo.org/ plenty of info to study and learn about and MOVING ON TO 2010 raw feed cat, not dry feed cat! Added on April 10, 2010, 4:13 pm No, you go with chicken meat for begining , not fish Like chicken fillet, definately a good start(you can't just feed meat alone, you need bone n organ to be complete). Feeding once a while fish is ok for cat, not everday, everymeal. In nature, fish is not natural food for cat as well, fish contains an enzyme that destroys thiamin vitamin B1 in cat(causing kidney problem). Where to get plenty of thiamin? FRESH RAW MEAT. You can slowly switch your cat from what ever you feeding them toward 100% raw feed, follow your cat pase, cause some cat may not know that that is they food, and take time to 'convince', some cat is instantly pick up that ideal. Because they been feeding dry biscuit for live, 'forgot' they are carnivore. You can read this --> http://www.rawfedcats.org/practicalguide.htm you will easily pick up the ideal. Once you move into raw, you will never look back, your cat will thank you for doing the right thing for him not for your self. The ideal for raw feed cat mixture is follow as close as possible to the ratio cat eat in the wild, one of the commend prey for cat is wild mice. Mice's build up is about 80% of meat, 10% bone, and 10% of organ meat(half must be liver). |
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Cat lover, this is another site that can use for reading,and learning some new thing, however I am not agreed with the grinding and putting vege into the recipe, but good for reading. --> http://www.catnutrition.org/index.php
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Apr 11 2010, 02:42 PM
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we did not argue..i dun have any poblem with feeding kibbles...yup, i know there are super premium quality kibbles like orijen which is free-grain..but that's not the point,, it is known that..we never eat anything that can stand for more than 1 month..kibbles can last for more than 1 year or even 3 year..is healthy food can last for that longer? I have a furkid which was consumed super premium kibbles, but he was allergic with kibbles which ended up with a lot health issue..but after i switch with raw, he is now healthy with no health-issue..so, it's up to u..we r here to share..and do not claim that natural prey like mouse is more "fresh" than supermarket meat..in fact, those street mouse which is consumed by stray cat is contained a lot lot more parasites compared to supermarket meat..but, those stray cat seems juz fine...what i said before that natural enzymes can be burned all if the meat cooked by high temperature like in kibbles...so high protein+lack of enzymes which is premium kibbles will be equal to kidney failure or other health issue...again, we dun intend to argue, but by saying that ppl who gives raw meat is "free" people, u are wrong...i am university student,part-time worker, plus i have more than 1 pet..those who knows me, they know what i mean...and i have tried and known a lot kibbles brand more than u do, including american,canada, japan, or even korean brand..so please be opened minded...
anyway, just let's other readers to choose wat is the best for their furkid This post has been edited by soekma88: Apr 11 2010, 02:48 PM |
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QUOTE(soekma88 @ Apr 11 2010, 02:42 PM) we did not argue..i dun have any poblem with feeding kibbles...yup, i know there are super premium quality kibbles like orijen which is free-grain..but that's not the point,, it is known that..we never eat anything that can stand for more than 1 month..kibbles can last for more than 1 year or even 3 year..is healthy food can last for that longer? I have a furkid which was consumed super premium kibbles, but he was allergic with kibbles which ended up with a lot health issue..but after i switch with raw, he is now healthy with no health-issue..so, it's up to u..we r here to share..and do not claim that natural prey like mouse is more "fresh" than supermarket meat..in fact, those street mouse which is consumed by stray cat is contained a lot lot more parasites compared to supermarket meat..but, those stray cat seems juz fine...what i said before that natural enzymes can be burned all if the meat cooked by high temperature like in kibbles...so high protein+lack of enzymes which is premium kibbles will be equal to kidney failure or other health issue...again, we dun intend to argue, but by saying that ppl who gives raw meat is "free" people, u are wrong...i am university student,part-time worker, plus i have more than 1 pet..those who knows me, they know what i mean...and i have tried and known a lot kibbles brand more than u do, including american,canada, japan, or even korean brand..so please be opened minded... Well said soekma. |
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Here is one of the deep study of cat on COOKED meat and raw meat, those interested to study deep, can get this book to read, very details of Francis M.Pottengers doing 10 years of research. Highly recommended for Cat Breeder and Vet. (Not available in Malaysia book store)
http://www.amazon.com/Pottengers-Cats-Fran...70968978&sr=8-1 |
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anyone here have articles or opinion on cat's behaviour?.. i found it quite hard to understand my cat's behaviour. sometimes it meows a lot but her food is not empty. how do we recognize what actually our cat wants?
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