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post Jul 23 2009, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jul 23 2009, 12:29 PM)
A. When they deliver to the stated address, ANYONE can sign it.
B. If you collect from PosLaju Center because they failed A., you need to go collect it (cannot authorise other people to go)
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Side track to PosLaju delivery on CC.

Deliver to my stated address, i.e. home address. There are 2 check boxes. Someone already ticked owner recipient only. Even at home, must be me to sign and show IC.

QUOTE(groggysquirrel @ Jul 23 2009, 01:18 PM)
2. i just dont understand why some people in this forum prefer to ask people to not this to not that instead of providing a better advice? maybe i LOVE to be in debt? why dont u let me decide whether i should get a cc or so? and i dont understand if u can afford an item, why do u still need a credit card, go ahead pay check or cash settle the payment once, and eventually this thread will be useless whats the point?
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Dear... we are trying to provide reasonable financial advise and pre-empt people on credit card risk, trap, interest rate, etc. We don't want our forummer friends to get into debts, along, worry, etc.

I think the main point we use CC and pay back full in cast is to get the points and rebates. Why not utilise the cards in a positive way ?
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post Jul 30 2009, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jul 30 2009, 04:56 PM)
Simplified equation

Total Annual Income (X)
-----------------------------  = Exposure Ratio
Total Credit Limit (Y)

Exposure Ratio < 0.3 means Over-exposed (Bad)

Example

You earn RM150,000 a year and your total credit limit = RM100,000
150000/100000 = 1.5 (Well under exposed)

You earn RM36,000 a year and your total credit limit = RM150,000
36000/150000 = 0.24 (Over exposed)
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My number is 1.07 for all the different banks CC + combined CL. HSBC, Citibank, DA & MBB only.
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post Jul 30 2009, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(GHz @ Jul 30 2009, 05:20 PM)
You need to include any other loan you may have as well.
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Ok, include house loan full amount = 0.32 sweat.gif

Car already settled. No other loans.

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post Jul 30 2009, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Jul 30 2009, 05:54 PM)
So taking your case as an example, if you are to say buy another property, you may have problem getting a loan at good terms or higher financing margins etc. Can try and see and brief us accordingly
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No immediate plans for 2nd prop yet. But recently applied for separate margin financing to test and it is approved. Is that counted ? Then the number will drop from 0.32 to 0.23

Anyway, I did not sign it up. Just try only. laugh.gif
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post Jul 31 2009, 06:11 PM

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Wait till you buy house. Immediate ! rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 14 2009, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 14 2009, 04:59 PM)
Guys, can a bank actually charge us annual fee if we haven't received the physical credit card and to activate it ?

Here is the problem. My mom signed up for 2x Hong Leong credit card in early April. One Hong Leong Bank VISA Gold and one Hong Leong Bank Gold Mastercard. She only received the approval letter from Hong Leong Bank 2 months later. But then my mom wasn't interested in it anymore.

No one was home when the postman came. The postman did not give us any undelivered notice either. Instead we got an undelivered notice from Hong Leong Bank about 3 weeks after we got the initial letter from Hong Leong Bank that my mom's credit cards been approved.

Since my mom doesn't want the cards anymore. She decided to just ignore the notice. No one from Hong Leong Bank credit card centre call about the credit cards. So it's been more than 2 months now and just this afternoon we received a statement from Hong Leong Bank that they have charged my mom RM320. RM160 for each card.

So can they actually do that ? I mean we NEVER activated the card. We do not even have the cards. how are we supposed to activate it ?  rclxub.gif

By the way, both cards are **Free For life. Need to swipe twice on each card in order to get the annual fee waiver.
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I assume is PosLaju or some courier.

First delivery fail, they should leave a notice. Summary: No notice

PosLaju/Courier will normally keep the letter with them for 2 weeks. After that return to sender.

That is why 3rd week HLB send out notification.

Some/Most cards nowadays are automatic-activated or no activation needed.

Both your mom and you know well aware must swipe twice on each card for annual waiver. Yet decide to ignore the notice and not send a formal letter to terminate it or to pick it up from HLB to use it.

2-3 months later, since the swipe 2x for each card is not done, it is normal for billing department to charge it.

Problem:
1) Poslaju/courier notification
2) Most banks do not communicate well between departments. Obviously billing and card-collection are not communicating.
3) Ignorance is not bliss

Source of the problem is PosLaju, failed delivery notification. Subsequent problem is the ignorance and non-commucation between dept.

So, summary is, due to the ignorance of not informing the bank with a simple letter to terminate the card since non-delivery and no more interest, it is now more headache to send the simple letter and also request for waiver. doh.gif

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post Aug 17 2009, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 14 2009, 07:26 PM)
The card we're talking here now is Hong Leong Bank credit cards. And yes, Hong Leong Bank credit cards need to be activated. I still have the letter from Hong Leong Bank telling us that the credit cards need to be activated over the phone. I'm going out soon, will scan and post it here later tonight  sweat.gif
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In that case, you have a point to bring the case up. Check if any very fine-prints or T&C (in the undelivered CC mail) that states if user did not activate within 7-14 days, it will automatic activate.

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post Aug 17 2009, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 17 2009, 02:16 PM)
Have checked all the details they sent to us. No fine-prints about automatic activation after certain days. Anyway, even if there is a rule about automatic activation, how can the cards be activated since we haven't even received the card yet ?  rclxub.gif  It looks to me Hong Leong Bank is forcing us to use their cards  shakehead.gif  But i can confirm that there is no mention of automatic activation in all the letters they sent to us.
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laugh.gif I was in a bit similiar situation before. I apply and received CC from a very orange bank. I feel like don't want to use it and did not activate it. Two weeks later, the CS called and informed me, activated ohmy.gif 1-year later canceled it.

Perhaps in your case, call up the CS to ask for waiver and try to swipe X times for 1 yr waiver. Else, inform them about not receiving the card and terminate it with waiver.
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post Aug 17 2009, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 17 2009, 05:08 PM)
The orange bank we were talking a while ago ?  laugh.gif 
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Yes laugh.gif

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 17 2009, 05:08 PM)
But at least EON Bank had the courtesy to call you to inform you that your card's been activated  smile.gif
Thanks for the advice. Anyway, we went to a Hong Leong Bank branch just now. A customer service personnel called their credit card centre in KL. She told the guy on the phone about my mom's situation. Then the guy request to speak to my mom directly. The conversation was something like below :
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He promised my mom to change the fee waiver rule. Now the annual fee will be waived for both cards once my mom swipe twice on each card in 45 days. We shall find out what happens next in about a month time.
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Ok lah. Waive the AF, then swipe 2x per card within 45 days. Hold for 6-12 mths, then cancel it.

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post Aug 19 2009, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(WoodStock @ Aug 19 2009, 02:16 PM)
finally, my Amex gold credit card appeared in my maybank2u.com, obviously maybank had approved my application on Amex gold credit card..
but i havent receive the card yet..

i tried to pay bill with the Amex.. but the pay bill "from account" options dont have option to choose Amex gold credit card, the options are only my current credit card..

is it because i need to receive the card and activate it before can use to pay bill?

or Amex gold credit card cannot use for maybank2u to pay bill??
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Most of the bills in Maybank2u online can only use Visa/Master or cash from account only. So far I did not see any bills that can pay using Amex, except register to Auto-pay (direct debit).
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post Aug 24 2009, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(fauzistt @ Aug 24 2009, 04:00 PM)
.. i really dont know when to receive the physical card, coz it just appears in my M2U today...
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If delivery by mail, should be within 1 week. smile.gif

winner is not going to be very happy sweat.gif Refer post #2011 here
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post Sep 9 2009, 03:11 PM

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viqq,

Option 1:
Call up the officer, tell him frankly you want to meet up to settle it.
1) Cancel and terminate the CC. Transfer the balance to a personal loan. It is lower interest than CC.
2) Pay monthly installment to settle the personal loan. No minimum payment, is a fixed monthly payment like paying car loan. Hope you do not default on this.

Option 2:
Find AKPK

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post Sep 9 2009, 04:57 PM

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viqq,

Google for AKPK. It is something similiar like turning into personal loan, but worse effect as they will highlight to all banks/etc to blacklist you until you settled the loan. But useful if you have discipline issue to commit monthly payment without fail.

Suggest to negotiate (write proposal letter) with the officer to lengthen the personal loan installment and reduce the monthly payment. Tell them frankly you can't afford and worse case is lapse payment or bankruptcy. The bank may consider it. But you yourself must commit to pay e.g. RM500 every month without fail. This is your last chance, unless you plan to run away or file for bankruptcy.

This post has been edited by cute_boboi: Sep 9 2009, 05:01 PM
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post Sep 11 2009, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(arvil22 @ Sep 10 2009, 07:47 PM)
How About HSBC ,Citibank or UOB?  hmm.gif


Added on September 10, 2009, 7:51 pm
Still Got 1 More Name China Union Pay(中国银联)
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