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 Micro Four Third (m43) User Thread V1, Panasonic G/GH/GFx & Olympus E-P/E-PLx

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post Jul 14 2009, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(KittyKat @ Jul 14 2009, 11:35 AM)
Got good meh???
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post Jul 14 2009, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(KittyKat @ Jul 14 2009, 12:39 PM)
In some sense yes, but in some other sense, not really leh. The AF isnt that perky, especially under poor lighting, IMHO lar...

Tried the E-P1 yesterday also, quite impressed with it. AF quite fast, completely usable up to ISO1600 if not pixel peeping. Operation's quite slow though and not very used to its interface. But one thing's that the silver body very "bling-bling" leh. Mnayak action one if found using it.
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wah, if E-P1 AF is as good or better than LX3, then E-P1 is good enough for casual shooter who demand
control, IQ and DOF. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 14 2009, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(KittyKat @ Jul 14 2009, 01:49 PM)
Big/bulky also leh, for casual shooting. But small and awkward at the same time when talking about handling its zoom lens.
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true la. hopefully e-p2 will be even smaller and come with built in flash
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post Jul 14 2009, 05:07 PM

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laugh.gif Just now someone PM wanna buy E-P1 from me.

Anyway, a lot of good thing being said about E-P1:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...thread=32394350

But I think a lot of people not jumping in because its quite pricey and most of the people who wants a dSLR still think only Canikon can produce great IQ.
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post Jul 14 2009, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Jul 14 2009, 09:47 PM)
sry no news on the canon or nikon on coming with PEN or slr size sensor camera in a compact body..better luck in year 2011
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Samsung NX will come out soon with 1.5x crop sensor. So noise should be better controlled?
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post Jul 14 2009, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(xandman @ Jul 14 2009, 10:12 PM)
this little thing has caught my interest since its intro...
but only now i noticed...it reminds me of my ex-M8! cry.gif

this is not a good sign!

i can use back my fav lense...Summilux-M 50!

but but but...

can anyone help me regarding the focusing?
is there a way to do manual focus on this little baby?
i'd do anything to have M8 performance...on a cheaper body!
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Some one did use it:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/sho...?threadid=76608
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post Jul 15 2009, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 15 2009, 01:47 PM)
Thanks. I can finally say I've found the lowest denominator in the human evolution cycle. Simply put, he's an idiot.
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I think he is just joking. He really wants to buy E-P1. But other side of him tell him not. So he try to find
reason not to buy E-P1.

QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Jul 15 2009, 02:07 PM)
would you please clarify your statement? most noob here would not know the real con of this PEN and i just share those info..so what the matter with that? unless u are not smart enuff to diff between fact n fiction between those line from my blog.
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I think he thought the blog is someone else. If he know its ur blog, I'm sure he won't comment is that way...

Cool guys.... E-P1 is just a camera... sweat.gif


Added on July 15, 2009, 2:21 pm
QUOTE(seaotter @ Jul 15 2009, 01:41 PM)
You should read dpreview for the leica lenses info
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1041

Because i have read people using zeiss, leica, volt, nikon AND canon lenses on the E-P1.
Manual focus apaprently is a dream on the e-p1
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dream means what? Its good or bad? Hehe.. I can read it as "dream on la if you want to manual focus with E-P1".
But for so many thread I read, Manual Focus is one of the best out there for E-P1.

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post Jul 16 2009, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(ae8za @ Jul 16 2009, 07:00 PM)
Officially a Pen owner, truly CAN'T resist the temptation...  doh.gif
Got the Silver E-P1 with a Silver 14-42mm... DAMN SEXY!!!  wub.gif  Now to sell my E-420+25mm Pancake... wink.gif
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Wah congrats... I think I need to update first page for owner....
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post Jul 17 2009, 11:55 PM

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Owner pls PM me what you bought (color etc) and price so that I can update the front page.


Added on July 17, 2009, 11:56 pmBy the way, seems like all owner haven't post any pic here.. laugh.gif

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post Jul 20 2009, 10:28 AM

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I've changed the title to Olympus E-P1 and Panasonic mFT user at the request of Harrychoo and also the fact that dpreview did the same due to avalanche of E-P1 thread in Olympus FT forum. tongue.gif

Any new user for any mFT can PM to add in to user database smile.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(seaotter @ Jul 19 2009, 04:34 PM)
http://www.memerang.com/Photogallery/index...=bon-odori-2009

Have some pics from last night Bon Odori.

No other post production done other than resizing.
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You pedo little girl:
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post Jul 24 2009, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(xandman @ Jul 23 2009, 08:22 PM)
rclxms.gif

now i can officially join this thread!

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silver unit!
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congrat! u only got 14-42mm? is it silver color too?

I wonder why so many people get E-P1 silver. I thought white will be the order of the day hmm.gif
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post Jul 29 2009, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(ZhaoYun @ Jul 29 2009, 12:10 AM)
Fully agree. EP-1 as a backup maybe, but no way it is going to fully replace a DSLR. With a lens of f/3.5, you lose the bokeh and control of DOP.
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As you are a d700 user, I don't get why you said lens of f/3.5 blah blah blah. You know E-P1 lens is interchangeable right? And
Panasonic is coming out with 20mm f/1.7.

The only reason I can think of why E-P1 is not able to fully replace dSLR yet, is because the speed and some people like to use OVF.
Besides that, I think every other feature of E-P1 is same as lowest end dSLR. Of course its not comparable to D700.
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post Jul 29 2009, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jul 29 2009, 08:57 AM)
Heck some even think F2.8 is not good enough. brows.gif
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wah, are you saying ZhaoYun's Nikon D700 - Nikkor 24-85 f/2.8-4D, Nikkor 70-200 F/2.8 AF-S
cannot have bokeh and DOP? whistling.gif

Anyway, E-P1 kitlens have f/2.8 la. I think the 17mm is f/2.8. brows.gif Does that means E-P1
is equivalent to D700 due to E-P1 having f/2.8 as ZhaoYun's D700???? flex.gif rclxms.gif drool.gif

This is E-P1 bokeh with kitlens 17mm f/2.8:
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post Jul 29 2009, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jul 29 2009, 01:11 PM)
I mean some... some... hehehe biggrin.gif Bokeh depends on subject positioning. A lens at tele and focusing to a close subject with the background far away will also become very blur... Round diaphragms will also give nice bokeh. Optical characteristic will also give out soft focusing which is very pleasing to the eye and dreamy.

The people I know, thinks 2.8 is not blur enough unless you try hard. Like how the picture you show is focused close while background is far far away. Its easy to get a blur background. But the degree of blur is very subjective. Some go to extends of F1.2. You get what I mean?

But bokeh should not be the only thing we should strive for. Not everything must be blur. That is not the only thing in photography. Thats very amateur. Anyone with such a lens can produce such an effect. Proper use of bokeh requires creativity and the use of right equipment. Now that is a difference.
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Walaoyeh. Just now say ZhaoYun's f/2.8 cannot get bokeh. Now you his concern about bokeh is very amateur... laugh.gif
Cham lor you. Later he come back shoot you liao sweat.gif

Anyway, the example of bokeh I give is very terrible. Very distracting bokeh. rclxub.gif
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post Aug 7 2009, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(seaotter @ Aug 7 2009, 03:14 AM)
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/rumored...-gets-pictured/

Oooh. Panasonic just stepped into the ring again!

I still like my silver E-P1 but damn....that looks good...

(hotshoe EVF like the ricohs and a possible flash. Going to be weak but its there)
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http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...thread=32610745
1. It will be almost the exact same dimensions as the EP1. “E-P1 is 121mm (W) x 70mm (H) x 36mm (D), 119X71X36.3mm for the GF1.”
2. It will have a pop-up flash.
3. It does not have an EVF but it appears that an external one can be used.
4. It has a dedicated movie record button on the top right of the camera.
5. It has HDMI output.
6. It uses the AVCHD- Lite format which means 720p(1280x720) but we don’t know the frame rate.
7. It has a single mono microphone on the top of the camera.
8. It will have 20/1.7 and 45/2.8 macro lenses available. However, we don’t know if they will be bundled with the camera.
9. It has a hot shoe.
10. It has a widescreen LCD.
11. It does not have in body image stabilization.

I wonder if B substitute with 11 is a good thing. Got flash but lose body IS. Some
prime don't have IS.

AVCHD-lite is a good thing too. Can take video with smaller size.
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Aug 18 2009, 08:57 AM)
a shop in klcc offers me RM3600 for the E-P1 body and pancake lens, and that's it. Seems to be pretty expensive, but whaddaya think?
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Check out my first post in this thread. It supposed to be E-P1 + 14-42 + 17 = RM3300.
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post Aug 21 2009, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(navilink @ Aug 21 2009, 08:54 PM)
rm2k? i would be among the first users then laugh.gif i dont think the camera priced around 6K la.. it defeats the purpose of 'EP-1 killer' tag..
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Olympus and Panasonic are working together. I doubt they want to kill each other..haha...

Anyway, EP-1 and GF-1 is quite a different product. One is with IS and one without but with flash. Hard to choose liao.
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QUOTE(navilink @ Aug 22 2009, 01:23 AM)
but most the lens if not all comes with IS now? why pana don't put in their latest tech, the Power OIS..
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All I know is Pana lens come with IS. I think got very few lens for mFT from Pana.
Oly kit lens no IS one. IS useful for tele lens. So most tele lens have IS. But
pancake lens and WA lens will not have. I'm quite a ardent fan of body IS. So I will
only buy camera with body IS.

Pana got power OIS. That's the one with the lens lor... smile.gif
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QUOTE(perfect10 @ Aug 24 2009, 12:27 AM)
how good is ep-1 is???
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