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post Oct 22 2009, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(maxximus @ Oct 22 2009, 01:01 PM)
haha, cools powerful SUV u have there. 

Thanks for sharing, bro  smile.gif

Mind to share with me how much u pay for the LS2000 with the size 215/55/17 ? 

I was quoted RM503/= for both the LS2000 and Revspec RS-02
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I paid RM480 per piece at that size including install/balancing/alignment at Hup Shun in Sunway, Revspec is around the same price but harder, not such a comfort ride.

Depends what you want really. I would get FK452 over Revspec tho.

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post Oct 22 2009, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(ShaolinTiger @ Oct 22 2009, 01:14 PM)
I paid RM480 per piece at that size including install/balancing/alignment at Hup Shun in Sunway, Revspec is around the same price but harder, not such a comfort ride.

Depends what you want really. I would get FK452 over Revspec tho.
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wow that is good, at least better then what I was quoted. Will check out FK452 ... thanks
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post Oct 22 2009, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(maxximus @ Oct 22 2009, 01:20 PM)
wow that is good, at least better then what I was quoted.  Will check out FK452 ... thanks
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If you're interested I've just detailed my Tyre buying here:

http://www.shaolintiger.com/2009/10/22/pro...-airtrek-turbo/

For that range you can also consider Hankook S1 Evo, Bridgestone Adrenalin RE0001 and Toyo T1-R.
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post Oct 22 2009, 01:40 PM

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Adrenalin is just too expensive so do T1R...
i think Hankook S1 is a safe bet... cheaper... it's review by german car magazines also pretty good...

btw u have nicely written up there... smile.gif
if not mistaken Falken 452 is not that recommended as the grip is not up to some ppl levels...

I'm using Hankook V12 at this moment and it impress me... wet grip is comparable with PP2 (my previous set) and its braking distance also... or should i say most of the performance is good for occasionally aggressive driving... but u might need 1~2 days to get use to it's handling characteristic coz it is just 0.5 sec slower in response compare to PP2, i'm driving around 110km/h at tat time... it is because PP2 has a harder side wall but V12 have a softer which makes V12 has a lil more comfort... this is suitable for them whom wants grips and performance while it does not loose a lot in comfort... smile.gif I'm driving Vios only... but PP2 really not suitable with Honda's car if you wan a lil comfort...

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post Oct 22 2009, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:40 PM)
Adrenalin is just too expensive so do T1R...
i think Hankook S1 is a safe bet... cheaper... it's review by german car magazines also pretty good...

btw u have nicely written up there... smile.gif
if not mistaken Falken 452 is not that recommended as the grip is not up to some ppl levels...


Yah some other Airtrek driver is using S1 Evo, seems like a good tyre.

Never heard any complain on FK452 on grip, only that it wears down faster cos soft compound.

PP2 is good, but a bit expensive as well.
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post Oct 22 2009, 02:31 PM

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yea... actually too soft or not depends on individual... we duno... coz my fren say PP2 too hard... but for me still ok... on the boder line...
V12 is comfort... but handling a lil loose out... thats all... i think S1 also a lil softer than PP2... but not sure though since it have 17" and up... not for me then...
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post Oct 22 2009, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 22 2009, 12:26 AM)
after you use PP2 i doubt you will go back for NCT5

the difference is just too much.
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Ic. Thanks

QUOTE(Oly @ Oct 22 2009, 01:06 AM)
good choice...but now...u will go around 30k km oni...then the tire botak...laugh.gif
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What the ?

Dunno yet bro, let me test first ermkay ? tongue.gif

I'm not track 'kaki' like my friend tongue.gif . This year only, he already changed 3 sets of tyres. All this due to Sepang HPCs and Genting whacked out session.

QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 22 2009, 09:24 AM)
er.. not like that la... if you drive like normal then 40k ~50k... if you drive aggressively about 30k la...
but NCT5 u dare to use until left only 10%... i throw it away when 40% or more left...
u get better confidence in wet and also better handling... traction much more better than NCT5...
but in return of safety it will burn ur wallet a bit more... what size have u changed to and how much???
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I drive slow like an uncle tongue.gif

It takes skills and guts to handle NCT5 during wet and corner especially when the thread is almost thin. As far as I remember during using the NCT5, I had 2 times controllable skid during high speed. The rule of the thumb is never ever hit your brake hard when driving on wet or emergency braking. Try to control the accelerator first when slowing down and slowly pressing the brake carefully. When entering corner always practice brake first and enter and not braking during cornering. While cornering the only thing you have to do is control the accelerator carefully when taking the apex. Unless there is urgency to press the brake then you have to do so.

I'm using 195/55/R15. Bought it around RM225/piece with production date of 'Week 38 2009'.
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post Oct 22 2009, 03:49 PM

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I was using NCT5 on my previous car Satria GTi, worst tyre I've used so far. Damn noisy man.
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post Oct 22 2009, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:43 PM)
It takes skills and guts to handle NCT5 during wet and corner especially when the thread is almost thin. As far as I remember during using the NCT5, I had 2 times controllable skid during high speed. The rule of the thumb is never ever hit your brake hard when driving on wet or emergency braking. Try to control the accelerator first when slowing down and slowly pressing the brake carefully. When entering corner always practice brake first and enter and not braking during cornering. While cornering the only thing you have to do is control the accelerator carefully when taking the apex. Unless there is urgency to press the brake then you have to do so.

I'm using 195/55/R15. Bought it around RM225/piece with production date of 'Week 38 2009'.
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rm225/pc for 195/55/r15 NCT5??.... not expensive meh??... unsure.gif
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post Oct 22 2009, 06:05 PM

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really expensive...
falken 195/60/15 can get RM175... continental around that figure
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post Oct 22 2009, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Oct 22 2009, 05:45 PM)
rm225/pc for 195/55/r15 NCT5??.... not expensive meh??... unsure.gif
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huh??...pp2 i got it around RM210...at klang.. brows.gif
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post Oct 22 2009, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Oct 22 2009, 05:45 PM)
rm225/pc for 195/55/r15 NCT5??.... not expensive meh??... unsure.gif
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Looking back to the question raised by michael and my other previous post, I was referring to the pp2 and not nct5.

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 22 2009, 07:48 PM)
huh??...pp2 i got it around RM210...at klang.. brows.gif
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Good price you got there, can I know which production stock ? smile.gif

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post Oct 22 2009, 09:36 PM

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anyone noe where i can find Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 LTS for 185/60R14???
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post Oct 22 2009, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 20 2009, 11:18 AM)
what is your size??? as bro CheeAnn said... u never get wrong with the over priced Michelin PP2...
it is quiet... but if you can bear a bit of noise... try Hankook V12... it comes witha lil comfort also...
Softer pressure to get more performance???
if you have PP2 and ur fren have Primacy LC means same pressure to get same performance... ???
it is all depends on individual la isn't it???
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tis 2 tires will have their own pressure depending on da owner of da car using tis brand~
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 22 2009, 08:01 PM)
Looking back to the question raised by michael and my other previous post, I was referring to the pp2 and not nct5.
Good price you got there, can I know which production stock ? smile.gif
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week 26/09 bought around ending of july.... laugh.gif
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post Oct 23 2009, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:43 PM)
It takes skills and guts to handle NCT5 during wet and corner especially when the thread is almost thin. As far as I remember during using the NCT5, I had 2 times controllable skid during high speed. The rule of the thumb is never ever hit your brake hard when driving on wet or emergency braking. Try to control the accelerator first when slowing down and slowly pressing the brake carefully. When entering corner always practice brake first and enter and not braking during cornering. While cornering the only thing you have to do is control the accelerator carefully when taking the apex. Unless there is urgency to press the brake then you have to do so.

I'm using 195/55/R15. Bought it around RM225/piece with production date of 'Week 38 2009'.
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ok la... not too expensive... with PP2 straight line braking in wet is ok... not to worry about that... smile.gif
but during the rain always careful during cornering,very dangerous for emergency braking... for what ever tire u use...

QUOTE(ShaolinTiger @ Oct 22 2009, 03:49 PM)
I was using NCT5 on my previous car Satria GTi, worst tyre I've used so far. Damn noisy man.
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not only noisy man... no grip (for me la) during wet after 50% of usage... sweat.gif it activated my ABS most of the time when i brake a lil hard during declining a hill... gripping also not that superior... most of the AW forummer call it the tire to kill... haha

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 22 2009, 07:48 PM)
huh??...pp2 i got it around RM210...at klang.. brows.gif
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yea you can get it at that price in Klang... smile.gif in PJ around RM240... i got my Hankook V12 for only Rm180 a lil more comfort compare to PP2 but handling about 0.5 secs slower... but other performance is comparable with PP2... not bad... this tire good for ppl which have hard suspension setup... coz it is a UHP tire wif a lil comfort... smile.gif

QUOTE(benmah @ Oct 22 2009, 09:36 PM)
anyone noe where i can find Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 LTS for 185/60R14???
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er... Advan 07 i think mostly sold out... 08 is here... sorry can't help... call up quicksave +603 5636 0917 for info...
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post Oct 23 2009, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:43 PM)
It takes skills and guts to handle NCT5 during wet and corner especially when the thread is almost thin. As far as I remember during using the NCT5, I had 2 times controllable skid during high speed. The rule of the thumb is never ever hit your brake hard when driving on wet or emergency braking. Try to control the accelerator first when slowing down and slowly pressing the brake carefully. When entering corner always practice brake first and enter and not braking during cornering. While cornering the only thing you have to do is control the accelerator carefully when taking the apex. Unless there is urgency to press the brake then you have to do so.

I'm using 195/55/R15. Bought it around RM225/piece with production date of 'Week 38 2009'.
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LoL
the moment the vios arrive at my house, i junked the NCT5 and throw in T1R...
laugh.gif

actually u can try trail braking into corner its nice if done correctly... ... but only for the new dugong vios... because the new dugong vios can downshift and hold 3rd gear which is just about the nice balance between weight shift and power to throttle out of trouble if arises...

the older vios is either u maintain D (if GB maintain on 4th gear, u are screwed if obstacle come up) or stick the gear to 2 and u get too much power if u decided to throttle... lol
a cheat way for the previous vios is to disable the O/D ratio but somehow it is not the same as the dugong vios... lol

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post Oct 23 2009, 10:53 AM

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i recall u sed trail braking is crazy -.-" sweat.gif

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QUOTE(kcng @ Oct 23 2009, 10:04 AM)
LoL
the moment the vios arrive at my house, i junked the NCT5 and throw in T1R...
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actually u can try trail braking into corner its nice if done correctly... ... but only for the new dugong vios... because the new dugong vios can downshift and hold 3rd gear which is just about the nice balance between weight shift and power to throttle out of trouble if arises...

the older vios is either u maintain D (if GB maintain on 4th gear, u are screwed if obstacle come up) or stick the gear to 2 and u get too much power if u decided to throttle... lol
a cheat way for the previous vios is to disable the O/D ratio but somehow it is not the same as the dugong vios... lol
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Nevertheless, I'm seldom trash my daily car because it serves its own purpose and wouldn't burden my pocket for petrol as well.
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post Oct 23 2009, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 23 2009, 10:55 AM)
ok la... not too expensive... with PP2 straight line braking in wet is ok... not to worry about that... smile.gif
but during the rain always careful during cornering,very dangerous for emergency braking... for what ever tire u use...
not only noisy man... no grip (for me la) during wet after 50% of usage... sweat.gif it activated my ABS most of the time when i brake a lil hard during declining a hill... gripping also  not that superior... most of the AW forummer call it the tire to kill... haha
yea you can get it at that price in Klang... smile.gif in PJ around RM240... i got my Hankook V12 for only Rm180 a lil more comfort compare to PP2 but handling about 0.5 secs slower... but other performance is comparable with PP2... not bad... this tire good for ppl which have hard suspension setup... coz it is a UHP tire wif a lil comfort... smile.gif
er... Advan 07 i think mostly sold out... 08 is here... sorry can't help... call up quicksave +603 5636 0917 for info...
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it's not sold out but it's no longer in production for malaysia~
if can get also old stock

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