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EdwinTan
post Dec 24 2010, 01:53 PM

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Hi all sifu, I got few questions. Current tyre size is 185/65/R14

1) Can I change to 195 or 205 to increase the grip?
2) Can I change to 60 or 55 to lower the car and less bumpy?
3) Which one is better? Michelin XM1 or Bridgestone Turanza AR10? ( reason comparing these 2 tyres is both about same price)
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post Dec 24 2010, 04:56 PM

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what is your ride?

1. 195 or 205 width of 14" is very rare. cost wise, it wasn't practical. perhaps, you should consider upgrading to 15". fc different is negligible if the changes
is less than 15%.
2. changing to lower profile of 55 will caused a bumpier ride but more composed handling.
higher profile tire provides more cushion when driving over the potholes.
3. both are about the same. different is unnoticeable on normal driving style.
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post Dec 24 2010, 05:48 PM

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Thanks yngwie for your comment. I just use for normal driving and just thought of wider the width for better grip.
1) Agree, found out don't have for 14" unless go for 15"
2) Noted
3) Ok, since I just use for normal driving condition then I will go for the cheaper one:)
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post Dec 24 2010, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Dec 23 2010, 10:33 PM)
if got find me sure no need to wait n jump Q~ thumbup.gif
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thanks... will look for you in the future... that day i went... i think i saw you...
doing the normal package (rotation and alignment) satisfy with the service... thumbup.gif


QUOTE(EdwinTan @ Dec 24 2010, 01:53 PM)
Hi all sifu, I got few questions. Current tyre size is 185/65/R14

1) Can I change to 195 or 205 to increase the grip?
2) Can I change to 60 or 55 to lower the car and less bumpy?
3) Which one is better? Michelin XM1 or Bridgestone Turanza AR10? ( reason comparing these 2 tyres is both about same price)
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well as bro yngwie said... that size is odd size, better upgrade to 15"... my old toy is using 185/60 R14 now, planning to upgrade too... smile.gif
yes and no... it will not lower the car by much maybe a few mm... less bumpy or not will depends on the tire's sidewall properties not the sidewall thickness (Profile)...
if you compare with the 2 i think i prefer XM1 for more comfort ride... it depends what you want from the tires also... the better choice is Toyo Teo Plus but it cost you above RM200 for ur size...
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post Dec 26 2010, 12:28 PM

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hihi, just went to a shop surveying tyre price ....
they offered me a set of original Honda fd1.8 of 16" and tyres together.... cost RM1.8k....

then trade my 17" rims only for rm600++ only rclxub.gif

haizz.... dunno which should i go... change tyre only to V12 or downgrade back to stock rim.... hmm.gif for comfort purpose.... laugh.gif which is better choice.. all sifu here pls advice... lolz.... notworthy.gif

my fd1 start to have sound at passenger door panel there due to heavy vibration when go thru rough road... malaysia road condition.... lolz...... cry.gif cry.gif
i dun wan to let my car vibrate too much alr after changing the new one...

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post Dec 26 2010, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(EdwinTan @ Dec 24 2010, 02:53 PM)
Hi all sifu, I got few questions. Current tyre size is 185/65/R14

1) Can I change to 195 or 205 to increase the grip?
2) Can I change to 60 or 55 to lower the car and less bumpy?
3) Which one is better? Michelin XM1 or Bridgestone Turanza AR10? ( reason comparing these 2 tyres is both about same price)
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1st of all,wat is ur budget? ?
da most u can go is 195/60-14 on michelin XM1~
if u dun have at least budget of rm210 per piece then dun even think of it n remain stock size for ur 14" or at least rm230 per piece for 15"
hope u can think more straight n carefully b4 u wanna upgrade cuz i jus got bang by sum stupid ppl driving a honda city wit 15" falken ze912 n couldn't stop in time n bang my ass~ vmad.gif


QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 24 2010, 11:27 PM)
thanks... will look for you in the future... that day i went... i think i saw you...
doing the normal package (rotation and alignment) satisfy with the service...  thumbup.gif
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oh,issit ? ?
how do i look like? ? unsure.gif
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post Dec 26 2010, 01:15 PM

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e_k1117@
if stock wheels is on 16", downgrading to 16" will return the stock performance, comfort and perhaps, more accurate speedometer reading.
you can always opted for a tires with softer sidewall but with some compromise in handling. also, make sure to pump at optimum air pressure.


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post Dec 26 2010, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Dec 26 2010, 01:15 PM)
e_k1117@
if stock wheels is on 16", downgrading to 16" will return the stock performance, comfort and perhaps, more accurate speedometer reading.
you can always opted for a tires with softer sidewall but with some compromise in handling. also, make sure to pump at optimum air pressure.
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what should be the most optimum pressure for my almost Botak PP2?? so far driving for half yr never go check yet... laugh.gif hmm.gif

btw, that shop also recoemmend me Hankook V8 instead V12evo ... hmm.gif and when i ask got Nexen 8000, he claim that the nexen will be noisy compare to V8 and V12 hmm.gif hmm.gif wondering he is bluffing me or not....

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post Dec 26 2010, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(e_k1117 @ Dec 26 2010, 12:28 PM)
hihi, just went to a shop surveying tyre price ....
they offered me a set of original Honda fd1.8 of 16" and tyres together.... cost RM1.8k....
then trade my 17" rims only for rm600++ only  rclxub.gif
haizz.... dunno which should i go... change tyre only to V12 or downgrade back to stock rim....  hmm.gif  for comfort purpose....    which is better choice.. all sifu here pls advice... lolz.... notworthy.gif
my fd1 start to have sound at passenger door panel there due to heavy vibration when go thru rough road... malaysia road condition.... lolz......  :
i dun wan to let my car vibrate too much alr after changing the new one...
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IMO .. if u want comfort then downgrade and use v12 tires , hehe

QUOTE(e_k1117 @ Dec 26 2010, 01:41 PM)
what should be the most optimum pressure for my almost Botak PP2??  so far driving for half yr never go check yet...    hmm.gif
btw, that shop also recoemmend me Hankook V8 instead V12evo ...  hmm.gif  and when i ask got Nexen 8000, he claim that the nexen will be noisy compare to V8 and V12 hmm.gif  hmm.gif  wondering he is bluffing me or not....
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IINM v12 offers better performance , but v8 is quieter
they recommend v8 probably bcoz u want comfort

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post Dec 26 2010, 05:14 PM

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well V12 also not bad in comfort...

BTW downgrade to 16" and use V12 is the best choice... smile.gif the stock 16" tires should be 205/55 R16... so at 55 series u still can use a lot of performance tires...
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but 16" 5 holes RIM is very seldom and not common... not much choice .... sad.gif
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post Dec 26 2010, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Dec 26 2010, 01:05 PM)
oh,issit ? ?
how do i look like? ?  unsure.gif
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i think you are around 25~30... dark skinny around 5'4".... am i correct???

QUOTE(e_k1117 @ Dec 26 2010, 05:41 PM)
but 16" 5 holes RIM is very seldom and not common... not much choice .... sad.gif
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well find la... survey nicely... BTW bro PP2 has harder side wall so it is quite bumpy...
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post Dec 26 2010, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 26 2010, 05:46 PM)
i think you are around 25~30... dark skinny around 5'4".... am i correct???
well find la... survey nicely... BTW bro PP2 has harder side wall so it is quite bumpy...
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noted... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif btw, the shop recommend me to put 215/50/R17 so that less bumppy... but price wise quite pricey.... laugh.gif

roughly how much improvement comparing with 215/45 and 215/50??

will change soon --- >>>EITHER V12evo or V8(claim that more comfort) or lastly nexen8000 (get to know from autoworld forum-quite comfort and silent)

pls help me to choose lor... i not so believe those shop's recommendation..... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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V8 is old model... V12 performance is better too...
Nexen 8000 is good according to user...

If you really want comfort then really 16" is nice... 17" might not as comfort as you want no matter 50 series... it depends on the tires also... Hankook V12 Evo it is comfort on 195/55 R15 while PP2 is not at all... i used both tires, now on PS3... if you want comfort y change to 17" wheels???

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 26 2010, 06:46 PM)
i think you are around 25~30... dark skinny around 5'4".... am i correct???
well find la... survey nicely... BTW bro PP2 has harder side wall so it is quite bumpy...
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then i think u got d wrong guy~
i'm 5'7'' laugh.gif


QUOTE(e_k1117 @ Dec 26 2010, 08:26 PM)
noted... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  btw, the shop recommend me to put 215/50/R17 so that less bumppy... but price wise quite pricey....  laugh.gif

roughly how much improvement comparing with 215/45 and 215/50??

will change soon --- >>>EITHER  V12evo or V8(claim that more comfort) or lastly nexen8000 (get to know from autoworld forum-quite comfort and silent)

pls help me to choose lor... i not so believe those shop's recommendation.....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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no choice if u wan less bumpy then dun upgrade to 16~
if u insisting of upgrading it,then better make sure it's correct size which is 215/45-17 n if u wan can try using 215/50-17 for better comfort but only thing u'll sacrifice is ur fc n love letter due to oversize tire will give higher chances of getting speed traps~


QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 26 2010, 08:53 PM)
V8 is old model... V12 performance is better too...
Nexen 8000 is good according to user...

If you really want comfort then really 16" is nice... 17" might not as comfort as you want no matter 50 series... it depends on the tires also... Hankook V12 Evo it is comfort on 195/55 R15 while PP2 is not at all... i used both tires, now on PS3... if you want comfort y change to 17" wheels???
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sum ppl have a very stupid mindset of upgrading rims for more comfort which is totally so wrong~
all they get for upgrading rims is to get better handling on da road n get more bumpy on da road as well due to bigger rims n wat more even worst then wan it to b dirt cheap like 14" or 15" tires~ shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Dec 26 2010, 08:45 PM)
then i think u got d wrong guy~
i'm 5'7''  laugh.gif
no choice if u wan less bumpy then dun upgrade to 16~
if u insisting of upgrading it,then better make sure it's correct size which is 215/45-17 n if u wan can try using 215/50-17 for better comfort but only thing u'll sacrifice is ur fc n love letter due to oversize tire will give higher chances of getting speed traps~
sum ppl have a very stupid mindset of upgrading rims for more comfort which is totally so wrong~
all they get for upgrading rims is to get better handling on da road n get more bumpy on da road as well due to bigger rims n wat more even worst then wan it to b dirt cheap like 14" or 15" tires~  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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hmmm... hehe i duno la... coz i when there got 1 guy talking with frens... and his fren drive the Van like crazy fellow... hehe...

ya... a lot of ppl thought they upgrade for Look or Handling but in return u need to sacrifice the comfort and also your wallet... mostly nice 16" and 17" tires will be priced around RM300 and above...
and u can see a lot of "Cheapo" whom upgrade with big rims using Cheap tires...
of course there is ppl can buy a car with nearly RM100k and still do not want to spend RM1k for tires which can last them 1~2 years or even more for some ppl...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 26 2010, 07:53 PM)
V8 is old model... V12 performance is better too...
Nexen 8000 is good according to user...

If you really want comfort then really 16" is nice... 17" might not as comfort as you want no matter 50 series... it depends on the tires also... Hankook V12 Evo it is comfort on 195/55 R15 while PP2 is not at all... i used both tires, now on PS3... if you want comfort y change to 17" wheels???
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laugh.gif laugh.gif it come with together when u bought it from my uncle biggrin.gif biggrin.gif but i do really love the RIM as well as it make the car looks more sporty... whistling.gif whistling.gif
now i have make my firm mind.... change a better tyre... will go for V12, going to survey around SP/Kulim/BM area.... any recommendation shop ???
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 27 2010, 09:23 AM)
hmmm... hehe i duno la... coz i when there got 1 guy talking with frens... and his fren drive the Van like crazy fellow... hehe...
ya... a lot of ppl thought they upgrade for Look or Handling but in return u need to sacrifice the comfort and also your wallet... mostly nice 16" and 17" tires will be priced around RM300 and above...
and u can see a lot of "Cheapo" whom upgrade with big rims using Cheap tires...
of course there is ppl can buy a car with nearly RM100k and still do not want to spend RM1k for tires which can last them 1~2 years or even more for some ppl...
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100% agree
i always believe to hv good pairs of wheel also means to hv a good secure safety ride , because those wheel that actually contact the ride to the road everytime .
thus u might be in big trouble even if they split for few seconds
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I'm new to cars and more so about tyres. Need some advice from all the sifus here for sure!

My dad's Wira is currently using Michelin 175/70 R13 for about 3.5 years now. Well he doesn't drive around much so the mileage is pretty low. The front two tyres are balding a bit on the edges.

I'm thinking on changing them for him but I'm not sure what I should be using. I went to ENEOS and they told me the promotion is Falken. Change 4 for RM517 and the alignment is free. Bridgestone Potenza is like RM163 per tyre.

My dad basically drives around town and he's a safe driver. So basically not speeding or taking fast corners. Anyone can recommend something good?

Thank you.
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post Dec 27 2010, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 27 2010, 09:23 AM)
hmmm... hehe i duno la... coz i when there got 1 guy talking with frens... and his fren drive the Van like crazy fellow... hehe...

ya... a lot of ppl thought they upgrade for Look or Handling but in return u need to sacrifice the comfort and also your wallet... mostly nice 16" and 17" tires will be priced around RM300 and above...
and u can see a lot of "Cheapo" whom upgrade with big rims using Cheap tires...
of course there is ppl can buy a car with nearly RM100k and still do not want to spend RM1k for tires which can last them 1~2 years or even more for some ppl...
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hmm.gif less than RM1k tyre for 17" ?? posible to get(rm250/pcs) ? local brand one ? laugh.gif
my budget for it is 1.5k lor max.

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