well i can use it as long as it don have any minor crack... and it is only 2yo++ already... so u can use it until middle of the year but careful on the Ori tires as it is not that good also... if you wanna change suggested to change toe 195/55 R15 to get a bit lower in the profile and wider thread... try Michelin PP2 i trust that will fit Dugong well...

i think Hankook V12 suits u but there is a down side which it is directional and a lil noisy than A Drive... or u can try Falken 912 which is comfort and nice...

no la... V12 is very cheap indeed compare to my previous PP2... u cannot get anything like that already... but PP2 will surely top V12 on the Hydroplaning i had done 140km/h raining cats and dog on the way from S.Petani (Kedah) back to Penang Island... V12 i had experience some hydroplaning already (around 20~30% used) at Klang Valley areas...
the comfortness, traction V12 tops PP2 but not much but handling at high speed PP2 tops V12...
actually this 2 tires is like opposite character... Comfort, High Grip in Corners (dry/wet), Braking distance (dry/wet) V12 tops it... Quietness, Handling in Highspeed, Hydroplaninng Wet PP2 tops it... so is like what you want...
i will choose back PP2 anytime... but V12 is a alternative choice for me...

BTW what size are you using... i assume u are using similar as mine 195/55 R15 by the budget that u set...

for better brand u have Yokohama A Drive, Michelin XM1...

CC1 skip it.. i'm using 1 set... got problem a lil... try to look for Michelin XM1 should be around there and A drive should be cheaper around RM130...
if you change all ask for FOC Balancing, Alignment and also Valves...

not necessary if u have the cash go ahead... if not then consider it if the toe is more than 3 degree... the threadwear will be obviously affected if it is that much ...

kaka... that is bumpy then u should try CT with PP2 on it haha... it will not void any warranty... don worry man... btw u are using Ori Toyota Rim also wat... so what to scare about
well how do you feel about the handling of ur car now??? better??? how about u throw ur car around the corners more grip and less body roll???
let us know ok... cheers...

i wonder y u say is very bumpy.... hmm... cos a lot of ppl say the new Vios very floating??? i tried yes it is a lil more floating than the previous version... no need to change the rim back... just change ur tire to Primacy LC or Falken 912... 195/55 R15 comfort tire... if the PP2 u don want... pls PM me i might be interested... cheers... any thing u can PM me...

it is too much... Michelin XM1 and Yokohama A Drive less than RM150 have already

bro u are getting Potenza ER30 ar... BS tire is a bit hard on sidewall but what is ur size now??? 195/55 R15 or 195/60 R15 or 185/60 R15??? i think u should not get 185/50 R15 it is a non-common size, hence it will be a lil expensive la...
well it you are no 185/60 R15 it might give you a softer feeling and it is no problem with ur braking but it is ur feel of the braking... try to do some similar maneuver and braking... actually is the feel when i change from Michelin PP2 to Hankook V12 i have that feeling also but after a while it is ok already since the sidewall of V12 is softer so i have that slower braking effect feeling...

lets discuss more in Vios thread...

bro is Primacy LC... both also good review from ppl but Primacy LC for ppl say a lil weak on hydroplaning but i'm not that sure...
all the while we have good feedbacks on 912 try that...

what is ur size??? 195/55 R15 i think???
try V12 if you don mind it is directional tires coz it produce more noise than normal asymmetric tires like A Drive, C Drive or 912...

not sure... buy if you need... our country everything will only increase to supply more $$$$ into the G pocket... not to our benefit...

Threadwear 240...
Traction AA...
Temperature A...
if not mistaken la... i read that about 1 yr ago... not sure now coz using Hankook V12 already... haha... Hankook V12's rating is that also...

bro RM200 call expensive how about others UHP tires... u are getting cheapest 1 i should say... if you wanna save RM80 and not willing to go to Klang... then u need to survey more... the new stock as i heard also will be a lil expensive compare to the old 1s...
just tell u need to change 4 tires... they will tell u the price then ask them to including balancing, alignment and valves... coz they will ask you to do chamber adjustment and stuff but that is purely business purpose, if your chamber is not out by 3 degree and ur tire do not have wear problem then u can just ignore it for this moment...
be a smart consumer, acknowledge the so call small issue but do not let them to make it as if very big problem for you...

i think C Drive is more quitable for you as it is their premium comfort... S drive is too sporty for you...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jan 29 2010, 05:20 AM

so??? how much do you expect... sorry if you wan nice tire for that size u can only get Hankook V12 the cheapest around... if not u have to settle with Yokohama A Drive or A drive R1, Michelin XM1 if you can find, GY NCT5 or others local or Indo brand

quiet then F1 is out... btw what is ur size???
safest bet is Falken 912

not sure... but GR80 is like Primacy LC level... AR10 in entry level, so do XM1... so i think GR80 will be better... GR 90 got ur size??? that is new

actually depends on how u drive la...
what is ur size now... 195/55 R15 or 185/60 R14??? or others...

yes safe bet is 912... PP2 is next but a lil expensive... P6 not sure Pirelli never try b4... and seldom got ppl feedback on this brand, over expensive...

Michelin... skip Continental CC1 it has some problem... my gf is using XM1 on her family Iswara Aeroback also...

eh... i though u changed rim or tires... cos u say not good mah... hmmm haha... i know stock tire is that size...

well as you prefer... but if you want comfort i think 912 suits u but it will be a lil noisy after 5000km... XM1 only entry level tires... u want better ones better change to 15" for 195/55 R15 tires...