fren... they should change the whole valve for you... next time ask them to change for you if you are using rubber valve...
haha AD08 not that useful for us we need street performance tire not that Extreme...

fren most of the ppl here more onto Performance tires not that extreme la... actually if you are more onto street performance UHP tire is enough already, if u ask ppl to get that tire like wat bro yngwie had use Yokies AD07 sure a lot ppl say u over already... R1R is like Pilot Sport Cup 2, AD 08, GS-D3, F1 Assy and others... all higher range...

haha... well u want extreme tires it is a bit easy to wear off so give and take lo... want low profile and good performance tire then want lasting also no such thing...
i heard that was not bad also but depends what is the tire u had previously used... i used PP2 3~4 set already, when i change to V12 i thought not bad at 1st... but the longer i use the more i know that PP2 is best in Hydroplaning while this is not, so i have to drive a bit slower when it rains with V12 (maybe Vios is a bit too light)
remember every tire have the pros and cons choose accordingly to feedbacks... i don mind to go back to the harder sidewall PP2 next change but V12 also not that bad if u have a heavier car...

FYI V12 cheaper than G force sport... 195/55 R15 RM190 only... give that a try it will not disappoint u much... i'm happy with it since i got Comfort, Performance, Noise is acceptable but the only 1 i hope it will improves more is Hydroplaning which i think is the most important to ppl that drive highspeed and travels a lot....

haha... yea but at least we should get a better wet traction tire than save our own pocket and not safer drive...

CC1 is not great... C drive traction in wet ok la... try PP2 or GS-D3, it really differentiate... hydroplaning for PP2 is really good, 100km/h at highway with heavy rain should not be a problem...

*Pls careful when you all drive at Guthrie Highway... i was in my fren's Myvi and the tire give away with even swallow puddles of water and he drove around 80km/h only... my drove that part of highway b4 with that condition i have no problem with my Vios with PP2... at 100km/h...

well not heavier car but Stiffer suspension setup... PP2 is good for softer suspension setup... as V12 has softer sidewall and will adsorbs some harsh humps while PP2 will give you better handling to compensate the handling suffered on soft suspension setup...
if you are driving Waja, u can use 195 width, 55/60 series with ur R15 rims... but again if you wan comfort better use 60 series as it's sidewall is slightly thicker than the 55 series, but 55 series gives u the handling and sportiness...
60 series - Yokohama C Drive or A Drive, Michelin Primacy LC or XM1, Toyo Teo Plus, Falken 912, Hankook V8RS
55 series - Yokohama C Drive or S Drive, Michelin Primacy LC or PP2, Falken 912, GY GSD3, Toyo DRB or T1R

**RED Color is Ultra High Performance Tires, Black Color is Performance Tire, Blue Color is Entry Level Tires

Cheers

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jan 18 2010, 09:33 AM

yes and no... there is a lot of factors to speed up the wear and tear... alignment and balancing also 1 of the cause, road conditions... usually the UHP tires wear of faster as they are more into grips and the threadwear index is lower then the entry levels...

@william68,
PP2 hydroplaning no good??? i wonder why??? i'm happy with the hydroplaning with PP2, Kumho Ecsta SPT, Hankook V12 does not even match it, and some others higher grade of tire cannot match it also...

feedback from my fren it is ok... but of course u don expect much from that... it thread is nice and cheap but performance still not up to the UHP standard...

F1 Assy all the way... comfort with handling of extreme tires... quiet and for low profile...

yes you maybe right i wanna try GY GS-D3 b4 i really say PP2 tops but compare to Hankook V12 directional with PP2 for Hydroplaning... PP2 is still better and my V12 was only 7 months old wear rate around 60% kua, quite lasting coz my gf driving it mostly...
my PP2 1 yrs++ with around 30% thread still handles better in hydroplaning or soaking wet highway condition... that is my view only but PP2 is really good in hydroplaning, try that out... used 3 set of PP2 on 2 cars (Vios and SEG) b4 switch to V12 on my Vios... wanna try GY GS-D3 on my SEG next change see whether the hydroplaning is that good or not...
BTW my reference is soaking wet highway with around 110km/h... V12 give me some minor planing (ppl in the car can feel also) but PP2 goes thru with just slight move on my steering wheel... directional gives u ample of grip but hydroplaning is still arguable coz of the design... don get cheated by PP2 design, this was told to me by a Sifu in AW forum...
please read the tire testing result from Opel which is available in Hankook Kaishen website... PE2 which is same thread with PP2 but different compound tops in Hydroplaning categories... but Hankook give you more confident on corners and braking... test is done with Hankook V12, Yokohama S Drive, GY F1 Assy, Dunlop SP Sport Maxx, Pirelli PZero Nero, Conti SC3, Toyo T1R...
again that is individual preference... for me i prefer to have very good hydroplaning and good handling with good amount of grip... coz hydroplaning can take ur life easily with just 1 sec, but in the corners and braking u mostly still in control of the car...
i have 1 experience in my fren Myvi with stock tires nearly take us to a spinning adventure on Guthrie, but another fren Kenari fitted with PP2 goes thru the stretch with only minor hydroplaning, both wear rate are almost the same...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jan 19 2010, 09:27 AM

that PP on civic was old version that is PP1... are u sure it is PP2 r??? if it is stock then they said is PP1 only

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jan 19 2010, 10:07 AM

wat car are you driving... that size seems very weird... CT or Vios???

Neo... hmmm if not mistaken u can change to 205/50 R16 or 205/45 R16 which runs not far from ur ori size...
if $$$ is the concerns then u cannot get performance tires that is good lo...

205/45/R16
Hankook V12 Evo - RM 255 @ Jooi Seng, Klang (May 09)
Falken Ziex ZE-912 - RM245 @ Jooi Seng, Klang (May 09)
goodyear gs-d3(thailand) - RM290 @ banhooi klang. (price is all balancing+alignment inclusive) dec09
falken ziex 912 - RM245 @ banhooi klang. (price is all balancing+alignment inclusive) dec09
yokohama a.drive - RM245 @ banhooi klang. (price is all balancing+alignment inclusive) dec09

205/50/R16
Falken ZIEX-912 - RM265 @ Jooi Seng Klang (Apr 2009)
Falken 522 - RM239 @ Tek Ming Sunway (Apr 2009)
Silverstone Ftz Sport Evol8 - RM 235/pcs @ Batu Pahat include balancing,alignment, adjust chamber.
Goodride SP06 -$185 - tg malim

i already erase all the tire which is higher than RM300.. i think ur best choice is silverstone or falken...
actually Hankook V12 is nice but if it is out of ur budget then no point...
tires is ur shoes if u buy cheap tire but the grip is not there then it might danger ur own life or even ur love ones...

Just my single cents...

wat??? so expensive??? what is ur ride??? if you don mind u have UHP tires you can try this also

225/40/R18
Yokohama S.Drive - RM500 Quiksave
Toyo T1R- RM580 Quiksave
Michelin PP2 - RM660 Quiksave

i think PP2 is a bit on hard side maybe u acn try S Drive or T1R... better look at the thread wear index make sure it is above 220
then it will last a bit longer...

or if you don mind u can up size it a bit more...

235/40/R18
Toyo DRB - rm 650 ( yet to neqot ) Hup Shun, SS3 (may2009)
Dunlop DZ101 - rm620 (yet to negot) Hup Shun SS3 (may2009)
Goodyear revspec RS02 (japan ) - rm560 ( w/ all items incl ) Hup Shun Bandar Sunway (may2009)
Hankook RS2 - rm599 ( trade in same size tire ) Tek Ming Bandar Sunway (may2009)
Hankkok V12 Evo - rm540 Tek Ming Bandar Sunway (july 2009)
Falken ST115 (japan ) - rm600, Eneos, one utama (July 2009)

*I already erase some tire which are RM700 n above...
it is within the 3% recommended rules...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jan 19 2010, 02:16 PM

if you consider that it is quite reasonable as 1 of my sifu already fixed and good reviews from him... he uses 17" only but from his review this give you good quiet smooth drives but it also provide you ample of grips in corners also, so it is a good buy for an extreme tire

it is not the same... it is 1.7~% bigger than ur current size while 45 series is smaller... but 55 series is out of the 3% rules for tire change within ur stock size... if you don mind is it a bit smaller compare with ur stock size (about 1.7km/h slower only) it is a great choice to get V12... but if really u wanna get better comfort with 50 series then u can ask for RS2 Hankook also... but not sure about the price...

u can try BFGoodrich G-Force Sport or Kumho Ecsta SPT also have 205/50 R16... but not sure about the price... feedback rating is not bad also... look around...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jan 19 2010, 05:11 PM

yes but ppl say a lil expensive haha... if you use cheaper ones it will not get u any where near the GY F1 Assy... even some a lil more expensive is on par with it... good tire...

well it depends what u want... but if you say PP series hydroplaning is not that good then it will be a surprise...
Michelin is well known that its hydroplaning is quite good... but if you find any better tires than PP series i'm interested to know also... as far as i know Hankook with 15k km (thread wear is not very much coz my gf drive that car mostly) is not better than PP2 with only 40~50% left... NCT5 new tires is somewhere near PP2 with around 30~40% left... that is depend on my feel and on the same car... but have not try any other than this 3 coz a some sifu said PP2 is among the best if i wanna try GY GSD3 is my next choice for 195/55 R15...
cheers bro

hmmm i see how... but in terms of gripping i think GSD3 will be better than PP2 but hydro/aqua planing i need to try.. hard to say it is good or not by looking at it and by theory, in the matter or fact i see V12 is good also as they have 4 linear groove to help but in the fact it is not really... as i said, do not fool by some Assymetric pattern design...

@jeremy0, u might need to try others shop that carries BS sign coz ipoh a lot of tires also very expensive...
BTW i'm from Ipoh also Jln Kampar... so need to find lo, such a low profile in 16" i think there isn't that much of choice for you in Ipoh... Try Hankook shop and find RS2 and see... might have it is quite nice also RE001 Adrenalin is some wat for me is a lil over priced...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jan 20 2010, 01:57 PM

err that tires... better don get it lo... get from reputable brand better... no offense... there are a lot of place can get it i think but u must go to those shops tat sell a lot of brands of tire...

it is call Low Profile tires... most of the sports car or ah beng cars are using 205/45 R17, 215/45 R17, 225/45 R17.
look at tat example 205/45 R17, 205 is the width, 45 is the percentage of the height of tire wall vs the width 45 means the height of the tire wall is 45% of the width, then lastly R17 means 17" rims...
Price - most of good or reputable the 17" tires is above RM350/pc where as normal wira 14" or 15" tire u can get around RM180 only...
Advantages -
Wider, so it gives you more contact to the road surface so u can get more traction/grip... traction already depends on the rating marked on the side wall (i'll explain to u).
Low Profile means it will give you less body roll in the corners, eg 60 series vs 45 series, 60 series u get higher profile side wall but u gain comfortness but 45 series u get lower profile side wall hence u gain on hanlding...

U have the pros sure have cons also...
Wider means u will lose a lil acceleration on ur vehicle coz the tires and rims come with the car is optimized with FC and others meaning...
Low Profile side wall means u will lose comfortness on the cabin vs the High profile side wall... but still it depends on ur car suspension setup also...

ok now to the ratings of tire... click on the spoiler to see

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jan 21 2010, 10:05 AM

if for drifts ok la... if norml use i don think i'll use that lo... well review is not that bad does not means it is good...
it is depends what is the current user is using and wat is their expectation...
just my single cents cheers

well for 15" tire you still can get a good tire at RM200~300 but if you wanna change to 16" i think u need to rethink about that... it cost u at least RM300~400 for 1 tire... ur choice man... there is another phrase, when u change to 16" y not 17" then??? it's tire is almost similar in price... haha...


yes as bro yngwie said u have to choose... it is depends on ur car suspension setup also...
low profile tires with hard suspension setup = harsh ride... but good handling
high profile tires with soft suspension setup = boat ride... but comfort
u have to mix and match what u want... if you have dugong u can change to low profile tires so u can get better handling... if you have CT better don so stupid things as honda suspension setup is not that soft at all...

federal got a few 595, 595 Evo and 595 Asymetric... i saw that in a shop... forget how many kind they have already...
V12 only got 1 only!!! refer to Kai Shen website for info...

same la... i'm using it now... since may 09...

er... i think 912 is good but i heard C Drive not bad also...
Long lasting change to Duraplus la... 100k km...

well er... it is recommended to change at 2mm... or the safety ridge... a horizontal block across ur linear thread...