sorry im new here, i don't know where to post this so i previously posted this on the "shall we have a diet/workout post".
i hope its okay =)

i was just wondering wad kind of oats and cereal to eat? like quaker oats? and what cereal would be the best for dieting?
jacobs biscuits is the high fibre or the wheatmeal one?

In my opinion gardenia wholemeal bread is better than hi5 wholemeal bread. Look at the carb, protein and calorie amount. The more the protein the better. Protein is expensive. The less the calorie. The better. Calorie is cheap

Thx for the advices guys ..^^..today i had milo for my breakfast cos i havent buy the wholemeal bread yet and for my lunch..i had little~ bit of rice and veges and a small tiny meat and for dinner,i might have an orange or apple..errrr...correct??? and the wholemeal u guys choose hi5 or gardenia??which 1 better??

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Added on May 4, 2009, 4:39 pmThx for the advices guys ..^^..today i had milo for my breakfast cos i havent buy the wholemeal bread yet and for my lunch..i had little~ bit of rice and veges and a small tiny meat and for dinner,i might have an orange or apple..errrr...correct??? and the wholemeal u guys choose hi5 or gardenia??which 1 better??

any specific brands?

It should be the same around the states as Gardenia, an org of their size should have standardized operations & recipes. In Melaka/Penang, there isn't a diff as compared to KL.

I haven't actually eaten bread in a while (just began last Sat) but I'd found that Gardenia's wholemeal wasn't as white as Hi5. I'll buy a pack just to test. If you notice, hi5 takes forever to go bad, signifying heaps of chemicals AND the absence of the life that makes wholemeal bread go bad quick in the first place. White bread doesn't get bad as fast because there are no nutrients at all. Just starch.

If all else fails, get/do home made bread, so you can monitor the sodium levels, and no extra preservative junk inside.

I hope you're comparing gardenias Breakthru bread to the high 5 one, not the gardenia green colour wholemeal bread, that one sucks.

2 slices(51.4g)
109 calories
1.5g fat
14.4 carbs
7.4 protein
4.9g fibre

There are many types of Margarine, I have no idea which type of margarine they are using . The newer version have zero trans fat, even typical normal butter contain certain % of trans fat too.

http://www.healthcastle.com/butter-or-margarine.shtml
non-hydrogenated margarine..

@ClarkFann
My mom discourage from taking margarine, we are taking pure imported butter, sometimes with cheese slice, or jam

Hey guys, Im currently 18, having a height of about 163cm and weigh about 45kg. I know you're gonna kill me after reading that, but listen first. Im not gonna complain that I'm fat, but the thing is, I actually have small bones and I dont look fat. But when you see the inside, I have quite a big tummy. I dont know where it came from because Im prone to having lots of wind in my tummy too. Problem now is, I wanna shed off this tummy and at the same time slim down my face, so Im gonna give it a go on dieting. Im currently exercising daily, not so much on the threadmill. I go for walks and 30minutes on the cycling machine(trying to build calf muscles). Will crunches help ? Any advice? Thanks in advance !

Haha because I die after 20 minutes on the treadmill. But anyway, I will start training my stamina on it from now on (=
Is there any protein thing you think I should start consuming ?


Hmm thanks alot (= I've checked out a few videos on youtube. Hopefully Ill be able to follow !
Thats quite a sad case. Its alright, I will start working on it

heh yeah im searching for one now.
i wonder how much does it cost.

btw, is it advisable for me to take soy protein?

i'm 17+, going 18 this year, i'm on a balanced diet, cardio jogs evening at 5.00pm but i want to ask is it advisible to have super at 11pm or 12am and i sleep about 12.30am almost everyday like i am in 4 min time, will i lose more weight if i sleep with a growling tummy ):?

what would you do o.o?do you sleep late too? :edited:
oh thanks for the advice, i missed out on what i read the last post, thanks clarkfann!

Thumbs up, Sky.Live! I wouldn't recommend margarine to anyone in the world. One step away from plastic, anything at room temp that doesn't spoil sure isn't good. That's why my cupcakes must be refridgerated. Makes sense

Clark Fann, I admire yr dedication. Great job on your focus girl. And...Happy birthday in a few days ;-)

Now as for the bread, you see, the goodness of the bread is determined by the flour they use. Commercial bread definitely doesn't use 100% wholemeal. They probably use 30/70 and add in some grains here and there to make it good. What I'm saying is that Hi-5 has a higher ratio of white to wholemeal flour, and Gardenia has more, because hi-5 has a lighter texture. I also feel that Hi-5 has more preservatives, because it doesn't mold fast, but that may also be because it has more white flour in it than Gardenia. But I also suspect Gardenia has tons of preservatives =Z I'm SO making my own bread tomorrow!

Has the Green Gardenia bread gone down in quality? Over the years? In what way? What makes it so that yall are against it? I haven't tried Breakthrough.

And yes, definitely different plants have different qualities just because of the practicality of the location.

I'd recommend the 5 or 7 grain sprouted bread. RM6 per loaf, but definitely worth more than the who-knows-what in Gardenia & Hi-5! I don't blame them, they've gotta make their money but we have to be smart consumers too.
What time do you guys get to bed regularly? I get 6 - 7 hours of sleep daily; however since consciously taking into account what how I'm livin, I'm trying to get to bed before 12 at least 10 or 11 (ouch. KILL THE NIGHTLIFE!) so my body is at its optimum. Weight loss & sleep (esp hours before midnight, and quality sleep) correlate.

Clark Fann, one more question for you. Have you heard of Jillian Michael's Metabolism book? What do your trainers say about metabolism?

My own weight issues & what works for me are a little different, because of my history, physiological..emotions...psychological things. Eating healthy & exercise is a lot more than just willpower for me heh! But thankfully I've got my hands on a book that's helping me so far.

Alright, I'm over & out

See yall in a bit.

my sleeping hours are getting insane, i sleep earlier now, but still woke up at the same time.
I used to sleep 3~4am, now i sleep 12~1am, but still woke up 9~10am everyday..

BTW,
Happy Birthday Clark =)

ok heres the nutritional fact for 100g of gardenia and high5 wholegrain bread.

Gardenia

Energy - 222kcal
Carb - 36.4g
Protein - 10.9g
Fat - 2.6g
Fiber - 7.4g

High 5
Energy - 253kcal
Carb - 44.6g
Protein - 10.5g
Fat - 2.3g
Fiber - 4.4g

You see, gardenia have lower calories and higher protein and fiber. Or gardenia is bluffing ? who knows. Gardenia Breakthrough has lesser calories, but the price is too exp at RM4.50 per loaf

I have lose my weight from 63kg to 57kg.but my arm.leg n tummy still big.how to get rid of them.N especially my face.

Why dont you guys try the Gardenia Breakthru ? Its about 28.1g for the carbs

i take supper also lose weight about something like you, from 76kg now i'm 62-61kg, total weight lost 14kg, the rest like building muscles i didn't count LOL *actually i dunno how to count ho much muscles i DID build, still soft anyway * er clarkfan, you lost 20kg, CONGRATZ!

ahh icic its a lil hard to find it.
its quite expensive for a bread, but since i take it as my meal, then its not so expensive dy xD
cheaper than eating outside!

Haha I have problems finding it too. Must go to the mall and get it =/
Haha yes ! Self consoling xD Its cheaper than a meal outside !