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post Jul 9 2009, 08:58 PM

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A comparison between the Mazda 3 2.0L Sedan and the Peugeot 308 Turbo.
Advantage marked with (A). Each car have their own significant advantages over the other, at the end of the day - you choose the poison that suits you best smile.gif

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Just realised something...

The hatch actually has the 340L boot capacity while the sedan has 430L. Now that makes hell lot more sense biggrin.gif
http://www.mazda.com.au/Models/Current%20m...ifications.aspx

And it makes the Civic look bad with 376L... A sedan !! Seriously.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jul 9 2009, 05:44 PM)
how is FC of mazda3 2.0 compared to Civic 2.0?

and i heard the back seat of mazda3 is pretty cramped for a 2.0 car.hw true is tht?

and hw is comfort,cabin noise compared to civic?

nd more comments and suggestion
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Dunno about the FC for Mazda 3 2.0L but as far as NVH is concerned, the Civic is no match for the Mazda 3. Go read around Civic forums and you can see scores of complaints about the quality and sound insulation of the Civic. It's CKD Melaka (Civic) vs CBU Japan (Mazda), there's no contest.
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need comments for after sales service of bermas auto as well
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 9 2009, 02:15 PM)
I don't think I can agree with you on the resale value just yet. Probably in a year from now when and if we have this discussion, we'll probably see something concrete.
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A sedan will always, always fetch higher resale value than a hatchback, plus a CBU vs CKD, plus usually in Malaysia cars from Japan always fetch higher resale value than conti especially a Peugeot or Citroen.

Added on July 10, 2009, 11:14 am
QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 9 2009, 02:15 PM)
However, I can say that the Mazda 6 still isn't selling as well as it should be, which is regrettable considering how it absolutely trounches the Camry/Accord. One consolation is that there are more new Mazda 6s now than there are for the older model. Still no concrete info on the M6 resale value yet, perhaps in another year or 2.

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You have to understand, AP is the main issue here plus our country unfavorable and unfair automotive industry. I was told currently they are buying APs from Naza. So there is no point for Bermaz to be aggressive in their marketing if they don't have enough AP to bring in so many cars. Unless they can get a strong bumi partner and Malaysians slowly discard their H&T mentality and accept Mazda, then they can go into CKD and start to market their car aggressively.

Added on July 10, 2009, 11:17 am
QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 9 2009, 02:15 PM)

One major flaw in the Mazda 3 is the medicore boot space - 325L is quite appalling in this day and age. Even the Proton Saga BLM gets about 415L of boot space!
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Is 430 litre my friend...


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Added on July 10, 2009, 11:14 amYou have to understand, AP is the main issue here plus our country unfavorable and unfair automotive industry. I was told currently they are buying APs from Naza. So there is no point for Bermaz to be aggressive in their marketing if they don't have enough AP to bring in so many cars. Unless they can get a strong bumi partner and Malaysians slowly discard their H&T mentality and accept Mazda, then they can go into CKD and start to market their car aggressively.
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People can only discard their H&T mentality if they are even aware of Mazda to begin with. This is where brand awareness and marketing comes in. First comes their website, details are scarce to begin with. That's already the first negative point and secondly, advertising - Flip open the papers and you see H&T constantly advertising their cars and services so their imprint can be constantly seen throughout. They have to start somewhere, even if they have good products - it won't sell if people don't know about it. That's why I think they should go aggressive with their marketing then worry about being able to supply enough units later.

Service centers are also another issue but they can tackle that once they got the vibe going for them.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jul 10 2009, 12:54 AM)
need comments for after sales service of bermas auto as well
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I have only done 3 services for my car 1K, 10k and 20k. Unlike Honda and Toyota where you need to make an appointment, get the number and wait. For me, I just drive straight to the service center in Glenmarie early saturday morning without any q and wait for an hour and my car is ready. Thats the good thing about small volume cars and since Mazda only need oil change and oil filter change every 10K before major 50K service, it was quick. So far no complaint about the car and I can tell you after one year, the car still drives the same.

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 10 2009, 11:28 AM)
People can only discard their H&T mentality if they are even aware of Mazda to begin with. This is where brand awareness and marketing comes in. First comes their website, details are scarce to begin with. That's already the first negative point and secondly, advertising - Flip open the papers and you see H&T constantly advertising their cars and services so their imprint can be constantly seen throughout. They have to start somewhere, even if they have good products - it won't sell if people don't know about it. That's why I think they should go aggressive with their marketing then worry about being able to supply enough units later.

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The problem is not marketing, the problem is Bermaz does not have the AP to bring in that many cars. Marketing is not cheap. After all the hype of marketing and orders start pouring in, where will Bermaz get the AP to bring in cars?? Waiting list more than 1 year? As I said, until they can get a strong partner to enable them to bring in cars, it will be stupid to throw all the money into marketing and not able to recoup. Is not as simple as what you said. We all know marketing is the essential tool but we are in Malaysia with this stupid policy. To say that they should go aggressive on marketing and worry about supply later is a crazy idea. How will you feel if you walked into McDonald and they tell you to come back tomorrow to pick up your burger?

Ever wonder why ppl are complaining about the overpriced Hondas and Toyotas? Thats where the money goes...Marketing. They can easily recoup the cost of marketing with their huge sales overpriced volume. Mazda will probably do good by just concentrating on the niche market and keep their price affordable. H&T already fully established in Malaysia with very strong bumi partners in DRB and UMW. It will be silly for Bermaz to follow what H&T marketing strategy as they are targeting far bigger buyers than Mazda since they don't have to worry about AP. Malaysians being Malaysians and they will fall back to H&T. Mazda sales in malaysia is not even near 5% of what H&T are doing. To ask Bermaz to have aggressive marketing is like a ABC cola company trying to follow Pepsi and Coca Cola marketing..

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QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jul 10 2009, 11:35 AM)
I have only done 3 services for my car 1K, 10k and 20k. Unlike Honda and Toyota where you need to make an appointment, get the number and wait. For me, I just drive straight to the service center in Glenmarie early saturday morning without any q and wait for an hour and my car is ready. Thats the good thing about small volume cars and since Mazda only need oil change and oil filter change every 10K before major 50K service, it was quick. So far no complaint about the car and I can tell you after one year, the car still drives the same.

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The problem is not marketing, the problem is Bermaz does not have the AP to bring in that many cars. Marketing is not cheap. After all the hype of marketing and orders start pouring in, where will Bermaz get the AP to bring in cars?? Waiting list more than 1 year? As I said, until they can get a strong partner to enable them to bring in cars, it will be stupid to throw all the money into marketing and not able to recoup. Is not as simple as what you said. We all know marketing is the essential tool but we are in Malaysia with this stupid policy. To say that they should go aggressive on marketing and worry about supply later is a crazy idea. How will you feel if you walked into McDonald and they tell you to come back tomorrow to pick up your burger?

Ever wonder why ppl are complaining about the overpriced Hondas and Toyotas? Thats where the money goes...Marketing. They can easily recoup the cost of marketing with their huge sales overpriced volume. Mazda will probably do good by just concentrating on the niche market and keep their price affordable. H&T already fully established in Malaysia with very strong bumi partners in DRB and UMW.  It will be silly for Bermaz to follow what H&T marketing strategy as they are targeting far bigger buyers than Mazda since they don't have to worry about AP. Malaysians being Malaysians and they will fall back to H&T. Mazda sales in malaysia is not even near 5% of what H&T are doing. To ask Bermaz to have aggressive marketing is like a ABC cola company trying to follow Pepsi and Coca Cola marketing..
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I don't think Berjaya group is any less well connected as the other companies. So the issue of not having enough AP is more of a minor technicality for them than a real obstacle. But I see your point and aggressive marketing of the Mazda 3/6 is not the best route as those cars are not catagorized as entry level vehicles to begin with. However, the Mazda 2 is the perfect vehicle for them to enter into the mainstream mass market. If they can CKD that vehicle line, then they should be able to start from there and move on with the others later.
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 10 2009, 12:36 PM)
I don't think Berjaya group is any less well connected as the other companies. So the issue of not having enough AP is more of a minor technicality for them than a real obstacle.
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Berjaya 'used' to have very strong connection during Dr. M time but no more. Since the change of camp, you can see they are now actively involve in Vietnam and China..

Added on July 10, 2009, 3:38 pm
QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 10 2009, 12:36 PM)
But I see your point and aggressive marketing of the Mazda 3/6 is not the best route as those cars are not catagorized as entry level vehicles to begin with. However, the Mazda 2 is the perfect vehicle for them to enter into the mainstream mass market. If they can CKD that vehicle line, then they should be able to start from there and move on with the others later.
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Precisely...as we can see since Honda came up with affordable entry level car like City and Toyota Vios. Mazda has yet to come up with sub 100K car in Malaysia. Even the Mazda 2 might price close to 100K if they ever come here. Look at how many Toyota Yaris on the road. Despite their aggressive marketing years ago, I hardly saw one on the road. Mazda 2 won 'World Car of the Year' and I don't think many Malaysians will appreciate it too. Until Mazda came up with car like City and Vios, I doubt they can eat into H&T market..I certainly don't like to see them come up with that kind of car.

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any owner for previous mazda 3 1.6 here?
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Jun 4 2009, 11:45 PM)
racun mode on! brows.gif

plase sir, pick your color

http://202.43.44.109/$sitepreview/maz...m.my/color.html

laugh.gif i cant decide on graphite mica or velocity red hmm.gif
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choose according to your personality; your style, and not what others like? have you bought them? tongue.gif Good choice btw!
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For those of you still thinking whether to buy the car...

i think this video here will help..

http://www.fastmotoring.com/post/2009/07/1...Fifth-Gear.aspx

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any1 got their car??? how do u purchase car num plate???

damn ... my SA ask me rm800 for 5155 rclxub.gif

if i wan 1155 rm1500 doh.gif
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post Jul 13 2009, 10:55 AM

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ask the SA go die...

just go to JPJ yourself and choose.

you either pay rm210 or Rm310 only no matter what number you choose (if the number still available) if you go JPJ and buy the number yourself!

lets say if the currently the number is running at 1xxx, then if you choose 1155, it only cost you rm210

if you were to choose 5155, then it will cost you RM310

it's something like if you choose a number that start with the same 1st digit of the number currently running, then you only pay RM210. If you where to choose advance number, then it will cost you RM310


no matter what number you chooose, even if for god sake if you choose no.8, and nobody tender it or buy it yet, you also need to pay rm210 ONLY!!
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thts wat my fren told me ... so i called the SA im willing to pay rm100 for the runner's fee as im quite busy n cant go to jpj myself ...

but the SA said she checked with her runner , now WSU to WSW all the num i wan been tendered liao ... im left with a chance to tender WSX 5155 with rm800 rclxub.gif or WSX 5115 rm1500 rclxub.gif

then i asked 5155 or 5515 is not tht special ...she said all the 5155,1155,5515 loved by malays ... thts y all kena tendered liao shocking.gif some more she said her runner got WSU 1515 on hand RM2800 shocking.gif

i guess now i hafta find 1 day n go jpj myself ... any1 noes does the runner really charged 5155 for rm800??? ( i still think the SA try to rip me off )

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the SA clearly is cheating you

1st: there is no fix price for all the number. If all the number you want for WSU and WSW are being tendered, then your chance is tender WSX and above.

and for tendering, you can just tender at whatever price you want (minimum rm200). So if you tender the number for RM200, and no one tender it, you will get it at RM200. If others get it, your RM200 will return to you.

BTW, as i say, IF the number you want is still available, you ONLY NEED TO PAY A MAXIMUM OF RM310. anymore than that is a rip off. IF the number you want are unavailable, then you can only wait for the next plate series, or for secure go tender 1 at the price you wish

Added on July 13, 2009, 11:23 amoh and btw since now WSU only run up to 2xxx (from JPJ website), i seriously doubt the number you want is no more available already. Just go to JPJ and check it out man

Added on July 13, 2009, 11:29 ambtw i just check the JPJ website,

5155,1155,5515 are considered as popular numbers only, which means the minimum money to tender is only rm200.

interesting number such as 7777 and others will cost a minimum of rm800

check here:

http://portal.jpj.gov.my/v5/index.php/en/v...plication-guide

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It's true what Sam Lee is saying. Just walk in to JPJ KL or Selangor and it really should be hassle free. I just walk in last week and got 3 digits for RM210. If you are really not fussy and don't mind Selangor no. plates then I suggest you go padang Jawa. You should be done in 30 minutes or less. Not many people are keen in Selangor no plate except for hot numbers. Current running no is BKK 87XX , which means by next week you should be able to get BKL 3 digits or the number u want within RM310 (hopefully).

BTW, anyone here has gotten their ride- Mazda Sports 2.0 ? If yes, your kind review would be nice and just to know when did u book and when did u get ur car? SA's seems to give a run around on the delivery date.. sad.gif
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whao...done in 30mins is so fast!

i wait for almost 2hours at JPJ penang :'(

btw mazda3 got long waiting list, therefore the likes of delay tongue.gif
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Wah that's really long woh!! But I'm sure u got a really good number ... smile.gif

I heard about the long list, I booked my car early June and I'm still waiting. Damn Damn Damn!! Can't wait for my ride.. You hardly see any new Mazda 3 on the road and when u r driving one around I'm pretty sure lots of eye will turn!! smile.gif

Anyone one here with any hot news on shipments date or month? July/August/...?
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i booked mine in june also ... SA told me shipment will b in august n most probably i'll get my car mid or end of aug cry.gif

btw ... padang jawa is in klang??? then very far wor
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I never saw any new Mazda 3 1.6 or 2.0 when I'm driving...Only people starring at me.......

U can spot in around putrajaya and serdang....white M3 1.6
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