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post Jun 5 2009, 03:00 PM

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I have driven my Mazda 6 for almost one year now and still get excited each time i get into the car....This new Mazda 3 will really stands out just like the Mazda 6. IMO todays CBU Mazda quality is far better than the Thai Honda/Toyota...
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post Jun 9 2009, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(phelix @ Jun 9 2009, 01:27 PM)
is ok.. i also don't believe malaysia gov. will be so kind to reduce the tax, but the news is from 2006 and original plan should have abolish the AP by end of 2010.
the latest news by deputy PM is by end of 2009 and should start by Jan 2010...
i knew malaysia should protect their p1 & p2 baby..  p1 is now exporting their cars around the world.. they no longer need protection after 20+ years of protection by mama.
i believe so, they will increase others but still possible the total car cost is cheaper than now.

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300% on car taxes you think they will give up? Dream on...... yawn.gif

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post Jun 15 2009, 11:16 AM

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I think most of you still think Mazda maintenance is expensive but its not the case now...and don't forget all Mazda parts are made in Japan. If you look at Accord service, it actually cost more than Mazda 6 and the latter only require major service at 50,000km instead of 20,000km in Accord.

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post Jun 16 2009, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(dr3w @ Jun 15 2009, 08:03 PM)
i like both actually, you havent seen the TRD camry or called aurion in australia
TRD aurion front view

TRD aurion back view
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For me, this is another Ah Beng....Thailand Camry can never look sporty...IS better leave it as it is...
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post Jun 18 2009, 10:33 AM

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if you want good salesman, head to Motortrader Mazda forum and look for William. He is helpful...but never go to a lady sales from the Federal Highway branch....
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post Jun 19 2009, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(darlyn @ Jun 18 2009, 11:10 AM)
y? the federal highway lady no good ??
wut is william number then? n he is from which branch ??
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Is not only me complaining about her, many others also face similar problem. This lady really has not much knowledge about the car and always give wrong info. I m not sure about william's hp no...he is based in Ampang branch. You can go to motortrader.com.my to see all the mazda post, he is there everyday.
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post Jul 8 2009, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 8 2009, 12:55 PM)
There is cruise control in the Malaysian spec Peugeot 308 Turbo.

Equipment wise - except for paddle shifters and bi-xenon headlights, everything else can be done or obtained with aftermarket parts. Even push/start stop smart entry system is obtainable in the aftermarket if you're willing to spend and modify your car a little.

As far as support goes, I think Naza/Nasim is doing a pretty good job with Peugeot right now. They just seem more aggressive in pushing and promoting their products as compared to Mazda. Even on the road, you see more Peugeots out there than Mazdas. If this trend continues, even resale value will swing in favor towards Peugeot.
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These two cars are no doubt ahead of the pack...I think is easy to make your decision since, one is sedan and the other is a hatchback...turbo/non turbo.......one is CBU Japan and the other is a CKD Naza...

Naza doing a good job now??? Marketing yes, after sales???? shocking.gif shocking.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif I will leave it to all you guys to judge...


Added on July 8, 2009, 3:51 pm
QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jun 29 2009, 02:11 PM)
As a matter of personal opinion - the keyless push/start stop engine button is nice to have but it is not critical. I do drive my sis-in-law's BMW 320i which comes this feature so my experience is it's nice to have but the novelty wore out for me after 2 weeks biggrin.gif


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Try using this feature for 2 months... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
This is an excellent feature to have and also play a part in safety. I have seen many women searching for their car key while walking to their car or next to their car. Imagine what can happen to them......If they have this feature, they can just walk straight to their car and open the door...


Added on July 8, 2009, 4:09 pm
QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jul 8 2009, 10:14 AM)


At the end of the day, the lower price of the 308 will be the deciding factor. A whopping saving of 16K is something that has to be considered. Oddly enough, over here in Australia the 3 costs 27-28KAUD while the Peugeot goes for 33-35K depending on accessories; and therefore the better choice points towards Japanese.
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Is not odd actually......This whopping 16K saving thanks to our 'Armno'...got it? Look at how they treat others like Tan Chong etc....

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post Jul 9 2009, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 9 2009, 11:10 AM)
Last time I checked around the forums, Nasim is doing a decent job with its servicing for 407 owners. The 308 is under the Nasim badge as well, so at the very least, it can't be that far off. Parts seemed to be rather well stocked and prices after comparison is rather on par with Japanese makes. We've been through this discussion with the Mazda 6 vs Accord thread, it's the same case here. Since the 308 is on a 20k service interval as well, I doubt it would cost very much more to service the car as you would with a Mazda. Any difference is between the exchange rate vs the yen and the Euro and how much the respective marques want to make off their customers wink.gif

The smart entry feature is very nice to have - I agree. But it's not critical and to be honest, it's not like you can't get this from the aftermarket. It's stuff like paddle shifters or factory fitted Bi-xenon headlights that can't be had even if you have the money to spend. Those are 2 very good things found in the Mazda 3 that is not present in the Peugeot 308 Turbo. But on the other hand, you won't get stuff like Panoramic sunroof or rear air-cond vents in the Mazda 3 either.


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Service is not a problem for both car actually.....is not expensive as portray by some Malaysians here. In fact I found out Mazda 6 service is even cheaper than Accord 2.4 as Mazda service interval is 10K instead of 5K. Major service at 50K instead of 20K & major 40K... and don't forget parts for Mazda are from Japan vs Honda Thailand products...

Smart entry is not critical when you don't have it...but once you have it and had it taken away, its like driving a car without power window or reverse sensor...I know because my wife's car doesn't have this feature and sometimes I almost rip the door handle off because i m so use to it open automatically...

As i said, these are the two car ppl should consider now...just decide whether to get a hatchback or sedan.....Resale value definitely better on Mazda3..


Added on July 9, 2009, 1:40 pm
QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Jul 9 2009, 11:52 AM)
I heard stories that the Pug 308 with panoramic roof is actually mostly CBU but Naza uses its connections & status to get it declared as full CKD & hence the pricing.

Not sure how true is the story though
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I m not surprise at all if its true....Naza Sorento was declared as 'National Car' and enjoy lower taxes...The only thing I saw from the car as 'National' is the leather seat, rims and tires. The rest are imported from Korea and even the 'NAZA" logo is made in Korea by Hyundai/Kia...


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post Jul 10 2009, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 9 2009, 02:15 PM)
I don't think I can agree with you on the resale value just yet. Probably in a year from now when and if we have this discussion, we'll probably see something concrete.
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A sedan will always, always fetch higher resale value than a hatchback, plus a CBU vs CKD, plus usually in Malaysia cars from Japan always fetch higher resale value than conti especially a Peugeot or Citroen.


Added on July 10, 2009, 11:14 am
QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 9 2009, 02:15 PM)
However, I can say that the Mazda 6 still isn't selling as well as it should be, which is regrettable considering how it absolutely trounches the Camry/Accord. One consolation is that there are more new Mazda 6s now than there are for the older model. Still no concrete info on the M6 resale value yet, perhaps in another year or 2.

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You have to understand, AP is the main issue here plus our country unfavorable and unfair automotive industry. I was told currently they are buying APs from Naza. So there is no point for Bermaz to be aggressive in their marketing if they don't have enough AP to bring in so many cars. Unless they can get a strong bumi partner and Malaysians slowly discard their H&T mentality and accept Mazda, then they can go into CKD and start to market their car aggressively.


Added on July 10, 2009, 11:17 am
QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 9 2009, 02:15 PM)

One major flaw in the Mazda 3 is the medicore boot space - 325L is quite appalling in this day and age. Even the Proton Saga BLM gets about 415L of boot space!
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Is 430 litre my friend...


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post Jul 10 2009, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jul 10 2009, 12:54 AM)
need comments for after sales service of bermas auto as well
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I have only done 3 services for my car 1K, 10k and 20k. Unlike Honda and Toyota where you need to make an appointment, get the number and wait. For me, I just drive straight to the service center in Glenmarie early saturday morning without any q and wait for an hour and my car is ready. Thats the good thing about small volume cars and since Mazda only need oil change and oil filter change every 10K before major 50K service, it was quick. So far no complaint about the car and I can tell you after one year, the car still drives the same.


Added on July 10, 2009, 12:03 pm
QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 10 2009, 11:28 AM)
People can only discard their H&T mentality if they are even aware of Mazda to begin with. This is where brand awareness and marketing comes in. First comes their website, details are scarce to begin with. That's already the first negative point and secondly, advertising - Flip open the papers and you see H&T constantly advertising their cars and services so their imprint can be constantly seen throughout. They have to start somewhere, even if they have good products - it won't sell if people don't know about it. That's why I think they should go aggressive with their marketing then worry about being able to supply enough units later.

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The problem is not marketing, the problem is Bermaz does not have the AP to bring in that many cars. Marketing is not cheap. After all the hype of marketing and orders start pouring in, where will Bermaz get the AP to bring in cars?? Waiting list more than 1 year? As I said, until they can get a strong partner to enable them to bring in cars, it will be stupid to throw all the money into marketing and not able to recoup. Is not as simple as what you said. We all know marketing is the essential tool but we are in Malaysia with this stupid policy. To say that they should go aggressive on marketing and worry about supply later is a crazy idea. How will you feel if you walked into McDonald and they tell you to come back tomorrow to pick up your burger?

Ever wonder why ppl are complaining about the overpriced Hondas and Toyotas? Thats where the money goes...Marketing. They can easily recoup the cost of marketing with their huge sales overpriced volume. Mazda will probably do good by just concentrating on the niche market and keep their price affordable. H&T already fully established in Malaysia with very strong bumi partners in DRB and UMW. It will be silly for Bermaz to follow what H&T marketing strategy as they are targeting far bigger buyers than Mazda since they don't have to worry about AP. Malaysians being Malaysians and they will fall back to H&T. Mazda sales in malaysia is not even near 5% of what H&T are doing. To ask Bermaz to have aggressive marketing is like a ABC cola company trying to follow Pepsi and Coca Cola marketing..

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post Jul 10 2009, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 10 2009, 12:36 PM)
I don't think Berjaya group is any less well connected as the other companies. So the issue of not having enough AP is more of a minor technicality for them than a real obstacle.
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Berjaya 'used' to have very strong connection during Dr. M time but no more. Since the change of camp, you can see they are now actively involve in Vietnam and China..


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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 10 2009, 12:36 PM)
But I see your point and aggressive marketing of the Mazda 3/6 is not the best route as those cars are not catagorized as entry level vehicles to begin with. However, the Mazda 2 is the perfect vehicle for them to enter into the mainstream mass market. If they can CKD that vehicle line, then they should be able to start from there and move on with the others later.
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Precisely...as we can see since Honda came up with affordable entry level car like City and Toyota Vios. Mazda has yet to come up with sub 100K car in Malaysia. Even the Mazda 2 might price close to 100K if they ever come here. Look at how many Toyota Yaris on the road. Despite their aggressive marketing years ago, I hardly saw one on the road. Mazda 2 won 'World Car of the Year' and I don't think many Malaysians will appreciate it too. Until Mazda came up with car like City and Vios, I doubt they can eat into H&T market..I certainly don't like to see them come up with that kind of car.

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post Jul 15 2009, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Fat Joe @ Jul 15 2009, 10:59 AM)


better to wait lor...but just the waiting can kill man...I had the same story given to me when I booked my car... Guess its their way in getting more sales...
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I know exactly how you feel... I've been thru that before when I waited for 3 months to get my Mazda 6.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Good thing must wait and you will be rewarded..
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post Jul 21 2009, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Jul 19 2009, 01:19 AM)
Today got cucuk by a new white M3 2.0 for sure coz it has a large rims on NKVE from Subang to Jln Duta. Not sure if member from this forum or not but of all cars, why why cucuk a stock Lancer GT la???? Asking for trouble, sure kena smoke wan by LGT.

Dun la do all this cucuking but i'm sure M3 owners also kena cucuk from other ie Civic, Altis or even LGT too.
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Why are you here to complaint about this? Not everyone who own a car come to this forum....Are you trying to tell everyone don't play play with your Lancer??? blink.gif
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post Jul 22 2009, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(shakiraa @ Jul 21 2009, 10:33 PM)
no offence, i tested all 3 cars before, Mazda 3 is really "underpower" if compare to FD2 or Lancer 2.0.

anyway, it's a good car for those that dont mind about power/pick up. it will loose to FD2 and Lancer for sure, even the 308 THP will beat it flat.
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If i were to choose these 3 cars, it will definitely be the Mazda 3. The built and ride quality is definitely the best. I believe most of us buy a car for everyday use and not to race and see who can outrun who....for me, Mazda 3 is the closest to continental ride among the 3.
Civic really has the elegant look and spacious but the ride quality is really not as good as Mazda 3..coupled with the countless complaint about its CKD Melaka quality....I will have no problem even if its a CBU Thailand.

Lancer looks sporty and nice to me but is the most uncomfortable car in its class...and the cabin noise is really really unbearable. I almost thought i was driving a motor boat!! Is not surprising when I knock on the door, it sounds so thin and soft...the insulation is so so bad.

There is always a compromise.....when you want good handling car, you sacrifice on comfort...when you want good acceleration, you compromise on fuel consumption..Car companies can tune up or tune down their car but they will have to weight on the fuel consumption.....Especially Mazda where they have big market concentration in Europe and as we all know Europe have the strictest environmental rules. Cars with lower emission will enjoy higher rebate in taxes....Mazda cars in Malaysia and Europe actually came from the same factory in Japan.
Of course over here you can always tuned up your car yourself if you want but you can't upgrade on your car material quality.

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post Jul 23 2009, 11:06 AM

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Actually the power differences between them are really minute and is hard to actually feel it...If you want to feel the power, is the torque and not hp that matter the most...and since max hp are usually measured at more than 6000rpm, let me ask everyone here...how often we hit 6000rpm?? Unless you are racing with someone....of course. Some never even rev past 5000rpm for their entire car life...


Added on July 23, 2009, 11:09 am
QUOTE(genkis3 @ Jul 23 2009, 10:54 AM)
i've been wait 1year for car delivery b4...
year 2001 when proton waja launch...lol
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1 year?? I thought those days (1990's) with the Proton Saga/Wira where we need to wait for 6 months and get scolded by the salesman are over..never thought Waja needs 1 year.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Jul 23 2009, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(kokben @ Jul 23 2009, 12:50 PM)
i saw somewhere that it stated mazda 3 drag coefficient lowest in it's class. become the most aerodynamic in it's class...which means....could be faster..

well anyone provide lancer vs civic vs mazda 3 for a drag race?

hehe
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All new Mazda seems to come out with very good low coefficient...Mazda 6 has it at 0.27 even lower than a Lexus IS at 0.28...Camry 0.29, Accord 0.31......1st gen Mazda 3 seems to have an upper hand against new Civic on a drag race..yet to see the new 3.


Added on July 23, 2009, 2:53 pm
QUOTE(cheeleong @ Jul 23 2009, 01:59 PM)
The torque was there... I always felt the push and the car was not loaded of course.. Just me and the sales man...

Torque :
Mazda3 2.0 --> 182 Nm / 4500 RPM
Civic 2.0 --> 188 Nm / 4500 RPM
Lancer GT --> 199 Nm / 4250 RPM

Kerb Weight :
Mazda3 2.0 --> 1300kg
Civic 2.0 --> 1315kg
Lancer GT --> 1385kg

As you can see from the specifications listed above taken from each respective manufacturer's websites... I reckon 3 of them are very close in a quarter mile drag race.. but so far nobody races 3 of them together.. as for civic vs lancer video in youtube.. it's hard to judge though... sometimes civic wins, sometimes lancer wins.. driver's problem? kekeke...

Mazda3 with the lowest weight with lowest torque and Lancer GT the heaviest with highest torque.. Fair and Square...
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Actually Mazda 3 max torque at 4000rpm not 4500rpm...another practical and ideal everyday driving....


Added on July 23, 2009, 2:59 pm
QUOTE(cheeleong @ Jul 23 2009, 01:59 PM)
Well... The sales man must be cursing in his heart..

I DID floor the accelerator and the RPM reaches 7k RPM for the Mazda 3 2.0.. In fact, you can really blow the engine if you keep over revving it because the gear won't change if you set it to "Manual"...


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I don't think he will be unhappy, not his car anyway....but one lesson to learn here, never buy a demo car... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif I personally saw someone testing a Lancer and I can hear both the engine and tires were screaming..

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post Aug 4 2009, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(santaclaus @ Aug 4 2009, 10:43 AM)
any1 noe bout auto-spa??? its basically waxing n polishing???

since my car is white i think hafta pay more attention to the care .... wax n polish rite after take the car or do it later???
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My recommendation to all is to go for PPS. Even after one year my car still looks like new without scratch marks and best of all, no need to polish.

 

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