i c most ppl will go for pearl white ( myself oso take white )

later other ppl may tot mazda 3 onli come in 1 color

gold also nice but Japan discontinue this color.only first batch got this color

i seriously dono why red colour but interior like that lor ( black top beige bottom)..so disappointing...

This post has been edited by kokben: Jul 3 2009, 06:45 PM

A comparison between the Mazda 3 2.0L Sedan and the Peugeot 308 Turbo.
Advantage marked with (A). Each car have their own significant advantages over the other, at the end of the day - you choose the poison that suits you best

Price

Mazda 3 2.0L (CBU) Sedan
Price: RM 129,999.00

Peugeot 308 Turbo (CKD)
Price: RM 113,888.00

Price advantage: Peugeot 308 Turbo
Quality advantage: Mazda 3 CBU
Resale value: Even for both marques

Power:
Mazda 3 2.0L Sedan
Output: 108kW / 6500RPM
Torque: 182Nm / 4000RPM
Fuel Capacity: 55L
Features: SVT, Electronic Throttle Control

Peugeot 308 Turbo
Output: 103kW / 6000RPM
Torque: 240nM / 1400RPM
Fuel Capacity: 60L
Features: BMW Valvetronic system on intake side, gasoline direct injection

Power advantage: Mazda 3
Torque advantage: Peugeot 308 Turbo
Note: The engine found in the Peugeot 308 Turbo is the same engine found in the BMW Mini-Cooper

Transmission:

Mazda 3 2.0L Sedan
5 speed AT Activematic
Electric power assisted steering

Peugeot 308 Turbo
4 Speed AT Porsche Tiptronic System
Electric power assisted steering

Advantage: Mazda 3 gains the advantage with an extra gear

Dimensions:

Mazda 3 2.0L
L: 4580mm
W: 1755mm
H: 1470mm
WB: 2640
Boot Space: 335L

Peugeot 308 Turbo
L: 4276
W: 1815mm
H: 1498
WB: 2608
Boot Space: 430L

Dimension: Even for both cars
Bootspace advantage: Peugeot 308 Turbo.
Oddly enough, the Mazda 3 Sedan suffers from very poor cargo space compared to the hatchback version which comes with a whopping 480L of bootspace

Equipment

Mazda 3 2.0L Sedan
Multi-Information Display
Dual-zone Automatic Climate-control Aircon with Pollen filter
Keyless smart entry system c/w alarm & immobilizer (A)
17 inch wheels
Steering Controls c/w paddle shifters c/w cruise control (A)
Auto dimming rear view mirror
In-dash 6-CD/MP3/WMA player with AUX connection point for external audio sources and 6 speakers audio unit
Tilt and telescopic steering wheel
Center Console Box with Sliding Armrest
Power folding mirrors with turn indicators
Rain sensing wipers
Fabric seats and leather wrapped steering
LED Rear Combination Lamps (A)
60:40 split folding rear seat

Peugeot 308 Turbo
Trip computer
Dual zone Automactic Climate Control Aircon with active carbon & pollen filter and air conditioned glove box and fragrance diffuser
Keyless entry system c/w alarm & immobilizer
Rear passenger air-con vents (A)
Steering with audio remote control and cruise control with speed limiter
17 inch wheels
Panoramic Sunroof (A)
Auto dimming rear view mirror
RD4 Radio/ MP3 CD Player and 6 speaker system + AUX connection point for external audio sources
Tilt and telescopic steering wheel
Power folding mirrors with turn indicators
Auto wipers
Fabric seats with leather wrapped steering
Adjustable front centre armrest with built in storage compartment
Rear parcel shelf storage (accessible from passenger and boot compartments) (A)
Driver and front passenger under seat storage drawers (A)
60:40 split folding rear seat

Advantage: Clearly both cars have certain advantages over each other.

Safety features

Mazda 3 2.0L Sedan
Bixenon project headlamps with Auto-levelling and autolights sensor
Fog lamps (front)
Black-out meter instrumental panel
ABS+EBD+BA
Ventilated front disc and rear disc brakes
Active headrest
Crushable brake pedal
Collapsible steering column
Maidas body
6 Airbags (2 front, 2 side, 2 curtain)

Peugeot 308 Turbo
Project Headlights with “Follow Me Home” and Daytime Running Lights (DRL) and autolights sensor
Fog lamps (front and rear)
ABS+EBD+BA + Traction control, stability control and stability program
Ventilated front disc and rear disc brakes
Active headrest
Detachable brake pedal
Collapsible steering column
5 Star EuroNCAP ratings
6 Airbags (2 front, 2 side, 2 curtain)
ISOFIX seats

Advantage: The Peugeot 308 Turbo is the clear winner in the safety features section.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Jul 9 2009, 11:19 AM

singapore Mazda3 with keyless

Mazda3 specifications



This post has been edited by alrasla: Jul 7 2009, 11:52 PM

6 airbags and the features would definitely give a bump to Civic, Altis, Sylphy and Lancer that is around the pricing range

Good comparison, but it seems like the 308 Turbo is the better deal here. Sure, it loses out on the transmission but the turbocharged French lion does have more growl under the hood with a higher torque at much lower rpms. And it's probably a safer choice with ESP and traction control, just in case you put two wheels into the gravel or skid in the rain.

Equipment-wise, the lack of cruise control in the Peugeot is somewhat annoying, but things like keyless entry is more of a fancy add-on rather than necessity. Same goes with leather seats and LED lamps. The sedan 3's pathetic bootspace is appalling, so it's better to get the hatch instead.

Design wise I personally prefer the 308. Both have gaping mouths and slanted eyes but the Mazda's overwhelming lines is too radical for my liking, but of course, aesthetics are usually subjective.

At the end of the day, the lower price of the 308 will be the deciding factor. A whopping saving of 16K is something that has to be considered. Oddly enough, over here in Australia the 3 costs 27-28KAUD while the Peugeot goes for 33-35K depending on accessories; and therefore the better choice points towards Japanese.

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Jul 8 2009, 10:20 AM

well..308 design not as futuristic as mazda 3...that's 1..plus in malaysia
308 is CKD by naza..so...it can be a good buy if u dont mine CKD or CBU..

while mazda 3 is imported from Japan....

really depends on each individual what they are looking for...but it's gonna be hard if someone need to decide between 308 or mazda 3...

Mazda3 Bootspace
Sedan 430litres
Hatchback 340litres

Pug 308 420 litres

Source: Respective UK brochures

This post has been edited by heeman: Jul 8 2009, 03:21 PM

There is cruise control in the Malaysian spec Peugeot 308 Turbo.

Equipment wise - except for paddle shifters and bi-xenon headlights, everything else can be done or obtained with aftermarket parts. Even push/start stop smart entry system is obtainable in the aftermarket if you're willing to spend and modify your car a little.

As far as support goes, I think Naza/Nasim is doing a pretty good job with Peugeot right now. They just seem more aggressive in pushing and promoting their products as compared to Mazda. Even on the road, you see more Peugeots out there than Mazdas. If this trend continues, even resale value will swing in favor towards Peugeot.

These two cars are no doubt ahead of the pack...I think is easy to make your decision since, one is sedan and the other is a hatchback...turbo/non turbo.......one is CBU Japan and the other is a CKD Naza...

Naza doing a good job now??? Marketing yes, after sales???? I will leave it to all you guys to judge...

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Added on July 8, 2009, 3:51 pmTry using this feature for 2 months...
This is an excellent feature to have and also play a part in safety. I have seen many women searching for their car key while walking to their car or next to their car. Imagine what can happen to them......If they have this feature, they can just walk straight to their car and open the door...

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Added on July 8, 2009, 4:09 pmIs not odd actually......This whopping 16K saving thanks to our 'Armno'...got it? Look at how they treat others like Tan Chong etc....

This post has been edited by iceman08: Jul 8 2009, 04:09 PM

My bad... missed out on the cruise control on the 308.
Well that makes the Peugeot an even more attractive package.

There are rumours about Nasim's plans to increase the price of their Peugeot models some time later this year, not sure how true that is as I'm not even in M'sia. Even if they increase it to around the same price of the Mazdas/Hondas it will still be an attractive option; but if they jack it up to say 160K or even more it'll be undoing all the good job they have done so far.

i dont mind if can have a push button with the key..like the FD2R.i think it's just nice to have a button to "TURN-ON" the car....

malaysia mazda 3 doesn't comes with leather seat and push start button.
and the resell value i can say mazda 3 deserve the win.
malaysia are always prefer japs CBU car rather than conti due to expensive spare part.

Yeah malaysia mazda 3 sport doesn't comes with push start button.

Waiting mazda 3 hatchback see whether they include the push start button or not. Eventhough not really necessary but it's a nice feature to have.

Last time I checked around the forums, Nasim is doing a decent job with its servicing for 407 owners. The 308 is under the Nasim badge as well, so at the very least, it can't be that far off. Parts seemed to be rather well stocked and prices after comparison is rather on par with Japanese makes. We've been through this discussion with the Mazda 6 vs Accord thread, it's the same case here. Since the 308 is on a 20k service interval as well, I doubt it would cost very much more to service the car as you would with a Mazda. Any difference is between the exchange rate vs the yen and the Euro and how much the respective marques want to make off their customers

The smart entry feature is very nice to have - I agree. But it's not critical and to be honest, it's not like you can't get this from the aftermarket. It's stuff like paddle shifters or factory fitted Bi-xenon headlights that can't be had even if you have the money to spend. Those are 2 very good things found in the Mazda 3 that is not present in the Peugeot 308 Turbo. But on the other hand, you won't get stuff like Panoramic sunroof or rear air-cond vents in the Mazda 3 either.

I don't know about the rest of you but I see it this way:

Mazda 3 2.0L Sedan
Paddle shifters - Fun (for driver)
Bi-Xenon Headlights - Safety (for passengers & driver)

Peugeot 308 Turbo
Panoramic Sunroof - Fun (for passengers & driver)
Rear Aircond vents - Comfort (for passengers)

Obtainable items in the aftermarket

Leather seats (for both makes)
Push start/stop button (for both makes)
Wireless smart entry system (for Peugeot 308 Turbo)

Comparatively speaking, if it's the Mazda 3 vs other Japanese C-segment sedans found in Malaysia then its a no brainer - I'd take the Mazda 3 any other day. However, if you throw the 308 into the equation and suddenly you're presented with 2 equally stunning offerings:

CBU vs CKD (Mazda 3 has the quality advantage here)
16k price difference between Mazda 3 and Peugeot 308 (308 Turbo has the advantage here)
Stylish car designs (subjective to individual)
Almost equal resale value
Attractive equipment offerings from both marques
Class leading safety features from both marques (308 Turbo has the bigger edge here)

Regardless of what car you choose, you can't really go wrong either way. If budget is a concern then the 308 Turbo is the clear winner, if you are willing to pay that extra for quality then the Mazda 3 2.0L sedan is a good choice as well.

I heard stories that the Pug 308 with panoramic roof is actually mostly CBU but Naza uses its connections & status to get it declared as full CKD & hence the pricing.

Not sure how true is the story though

Service is not a problem for both car actually.....is not expensive as portray by some Malaysians here. In fact I found out Mazda 6 service is even cheaper than Accord 2.4 as Mazda service interval is 10K instead of 5K. Major service at 50K instead of 20K & major 40K... and don't forget parts for Mazda are from Japan vs Honda Thailand products...

Smart entry is not critical when you don't have it...but once you have it and had it taken away, its like driving a car without power window or reverse sensor...I know because my wife's car doesn't have this feature and sometimes I almost rip the door handle off because i m so use to it open automatically...

As i said, these are the two car ppl should consider now...just decide whether to get a hatchback or sedan.....Resale value definitely better on Mazda3..

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Added on July 9, 2009, 1:40 pmI m not surprise at all if its true....Naza Sorento was declared as 'National Car' and enjoy lower taxes...The only thing I saw from the car as 'National' is the leather seat, rims and tires. The rest are imported from Korea and even the 'NAZA" logo is made in Korea by Hyundai/Kia...


This post has been edited by iceman08: Jul 9 2009, 01:40 PM

I don't think I can agree with you on the resale value just yet. Probably in a year from now when and if we have this discussion, we'll probably see something concrete. However, I can say that the Mazda 6 still isn't selling as well as it should be, which is regrettable considering how it absolutely trounches the Camry/Accord. One consolation is that there are more new Mazda 6s now than there are for the older model. Still no concrete info on the M6 resale value yet, perhaps in another year or 2.

But like in our previous discussion, resale value is really something that you don't consider as much if you are going to buy either a Mazda or Peugeot. You know for certain, the resale value will at least be 5 to 10% lesser than the typical Camry/Accords or Civic/Corollas. I doubt most people will want to sell their car in 3 years time when they buy either marques.

One major flaw in the Mazda 3 is the medicore boot space - 325L is quite appalling in this day and age. Even the Proton Saga BLM gets about 415L of boot space!

how is FC of mazda3 2.0 compared to Civic 2.0?

and i heard the back seat of mazda3 is pretty cramped for a 2.0 car.hw true is tht?

and hw is comfort,cabin noise compared to civic?

nd more comments and suggestion

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jul 9 2009, 06:14 PM