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 The Official Subwoofer Thread v2, Everything you need to know about bass!

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jchong
post Jun 11 2009, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Jun 11 2009, 10:58 AM)
Aiya, aiya.... I was thinking of getting 2 pieces of PC-12 NSD on 2 corners of my room instead of 1 piece of PC-12+.  sad.gif
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That changes the equation. I think htkaki assumed you're only getting 1 PC12-NSD. If get 2 then might be equal to (or better than) 1 PC12+.
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post Jun 12 2009, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Jun 12 2009, 01:28 AM)
I know I'm getting PB12+... Sorry for asking what is PB12+/2?  Two unit of PB12+?
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The PB12+/2 was an older model with twin 12" drivers!
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post Jun 12 2009, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(attentional @ Jun 12 2009, 09:26 AM)
RM2850 12R
RM2250 10R

from A&L puchong
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Eh, they still sell Velo 'R' series? I thought that was discontinued and they only sell the newer 'Q' series.

Anyway, that price above can definitely bargain down more. Already the 'Q' series can get cheaper than that.
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post Jun 14 2009, 12:01 PM

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So what are you waiting for bro? Quickly place order for the PB12-NSD icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 16 2009, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 16 2009, 02:23 PM)
blush.gif I didn't poison you guys, right? But, it is indeed a GOOD sub, if not excellent.
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Heh, remember you're the Chief Poisoner! tongue.gif
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post Jun 16 2009, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Jun 16 2009, 02:30 PM)
Would need some opinions on these subs. Anyway I got mine used, hence I'm not sure if it's working correctly or not.
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So you got the used PB10 from the hifi4sale seller?
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post Jun 16 2009, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Jun 16 2009, 05:46 PM)
Yep! and i had another friend to help me check out the sub, as I'm totally blur in this division.
But i have to say it's nothing like a Velo.
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What do you mean by "nothing like a Velo"? What are the differences?
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post Jun 17 2009, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Jun 16 2009, 11:49 PM)
With a velo it tends to trail a lot & shakes the surrounding more, giving it a feel of larger bass, I'm not sure how to put it into words.
With this PB10, it's more focused hence I felt less bass. At louder volume, the pressure is great but not much of audible sound.

I've wrote to SVS on this issue, and they claim that it's just interpreting whats recorded in actual and not rumbling when it's not supposed to.
On some movies, my couch felt like it's being filled up with ants running for it's life. I could feel the rush of armies on horses coming through from left to right.

I can't say much as I've just started using it for a few days. Perhaps other Velo turned SVS users can comment more on this. For me it's just different.
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Interesting description of the bass from the PB10. Doesn't sound like what is expected. Perhaps as htkaki said you are in a null.

Easiest way to test is for you to move around (keep PB10 in same place), example 1-3' forward or left/right from your normal listening position. If the bass gets better/stronger that means your normal position is likely a null (then solution is to move your PB10 around). If there is no change when u move around, then it's your PB10.


Added on June 17, 2009, 11:18 am
QUOTE(arremie @ Jun 17 2009, 08:55 AM)
not sure yet to get bd60 or ps3 or 6500. anyway pm me la ur special price brows.gif
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For me, only reason to get PS3 as compared to standalone player is to play games. If you don't play games then standalone player (a good one) is probably better.

This post has been edited by jchong: Jun 17 2009, 11:18 AM
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post Jun 18 2009, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jun 17 2009, 06:11 PM)
hmmm....I tot the lowest note the bass guitar can go is only 40Hz????
lower than that is the requirement for HT use....
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In term of music, the lowest notes are produced by pipe organs which can go below 20Hz.
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post Jun 18 2009, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jun 18 2009, 08:17 PM)
need to take into account all the BDs you gonna bought.. then poket kosong..  tongue.gif
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Don't always have to buy BDs, nowadays can rent also.
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post Jun 18 2009, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jun 18 2009, 09:00 PM)
know any place to rent BDs in subang jaya or puchong? biggrin.gif

sorry off topic..  tongue.gif
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Don't know about shops, but try this service: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=594198

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post Jun 19 2009, 12:28 PM

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Nice setup Jack.

I would agree with your suggestion of changing the amp. With a new amp, supporting hdmi and latest audio decoding, you would be able to maximize the audio from bluray. I assume now you're not able to get lossless audio from your blu ray?
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post Jun 19 2009, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Jun 19 2009, 12:51 PM)
Thanks. My room is about 11' x 19'. The 110" screen is kind of squeezing the front space a bit though.. wished i had a wider room.. smile.gif
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How far back from the screen are u sitting?

QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Jun 19 2009, 05:28 PM)
Yalor, thinking about it for long time oredi, but the 2011 is still kicking strong and I don't know how to justify to the HM... got trade-in deal or not?? I am eyeing the new Denon models,, any chance?


Added on June 19, 2009, 5:39 pm
Thanks. Actually I am quite happy that I have finnally managed to DIY the manual mask for the screen to get the 2.39:1 ratio. Thought for it for many years before finally get it done without costing a bomb. It now makes watching movie with a lot more theater feel because of the "widescope".  smile.gif
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If no trade in deal then just sell off 2nd hand in this forum or hifi4sale website.

Can share some details about your manual masking system? I suppose masks from top and bottom? What kind of dark material you used for the mask?
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post Jun 22 2009, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(maja_5365 @ Jun 22 2009, 08:45 AM)
Its in a different league la bro. For sure the pc12+ is way better than the pb10.
As an entry level sub, I would say pb10 would excell in a small room environment, though.
But giving the size of my living room now, pc12+ would give me more headroom as suggested by Jack fr SVS.
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No doubt in a different league. First you move up one class from NSD series to Plus series, then further from 10" to 12".

So you're going for PC12+ next?
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post Jun 26 2009, 09:42 AM

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For Singapore they would have stopped MO due to appointment of KEC as local distributor.

But why stop it for Malaysia? Hmm... unless KEC also intends to cover Malaysia?
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post Jun 30 2009, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 30 2009, 05:10 PM)
My 2 girls also got freighten a lot by my previous B&W and current 12R.  I have to off the movies because of that.
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Wah, if you get SVS then they will really be terrified!
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post Jun 30 2009, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Jun 30 2009, 09:39 PM)
that's crazy prices dude... got my CHT-12Q for RM2,800 only tongue.gif
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He quoted RRP (full list price). The street price for 12Q is 2.8k as you said.
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post Jul 2 2009, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Jul 2 2009, 09:25 AM)
Also on the topic of sub, anyone consider dual MFW-15 sub from AV123?  Price looks cheap around USD 800 for 2 x 15inch sub (350w).
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Yes the MFW-15 is a good value sub. However, you should be aware of the problems faced in this sub and as a result many people are holding off buying. Read up on AVS about what's happening with the MFW-15 and AV123 in general. A lot of confidence has been lost on that company.
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post Jul 2 2009, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Jul 2 2009, 09:51 AM)
Yeah... I know they have some problems with certain model of the sub. If they can deliver the new batch of product for Rocket and MFW, I think it's safe to buy again.
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The problem was mainly with the sub amp. The new batch will be shipped out from this month onwards I think. Keep a lookout for the user reviews in the next few months to judge how is the situation and whether it is safe to buy again.
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post Jul 2 2009, 01:39 PM

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Hey, how many of you use a Y-splitter cable to connect to your sub?

Any place to buy locally? Or do you buy from online shops?

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